posted August 23, 2011 06:30 AM            

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Originally posted by abcd efg:
I had a dream recently. In that i was in a ferry/steamer with a friend and other ppl. Our ferry or whatever was about to go near the wharf and i was anticipating how we would jump out when suddenly there was a plane/helicopter (didn't notice properly) there and a cream colour wooden ladder was thrown down and i had to jump and catch it. Which i did successfully and was climbing up and hoping to get in the plane/cop when there was another helicopter higher than that which suddenly approached and it threw a black ladder which i had to go jump and catch. I then woke up. What a catchy business!

Edit: Btw i got up before i could catch the second ladder.

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Abcd,

Please bear with me here, I don't tend to work through dreams in a logical fashion, so what follows will likely be all over the place, I will try to bring it all together if I can, but often I can't get beyond the deconstruction of the parts. Forgive me if I make this more confusing than others may, I am very much a student of dreams.

OK, you are in a boat, but you make no mention of water - where you aware of a body of water in the dream?
We can make the assumption that the water was present, but if you didn't actually see it in the dream, it's relevance will likely be small. Basically, water can represent emotion, or a connection to the mother. Depending on how it feels to your as an individual, it can also allude to rebirth, if we look at it in the context of baptismal ritual - so it may also have a spiritual flavour. Being on the boat and not actually in the water suggests a level of objectivity with regards to emotions, e.g., it is not the sole perception from which the situation is being viewed from.

The boat, like all vehicles can simply represent a journey. But as boats are for travelling on water (emotion/mother), this may allude to how you are handl;ing an emotional situation. If you were driving the boat with ease, that would suggest a good level of control over the emotions. You make no mention of this though, and due to your other activities on the boat, it seems that it was being driven by someone else. Thsi suggests that others have an important role to play in how you feel about this journey, their presence is influencing your direction - this is not positive or negative, until you percveive it as such yourself.

A ferry can hold a large number of people, as oppposed to say, a rowing boat. So this may point to your emotional connections with a group, or extended family, rather than a one-on-one.

The harbour represents a change of direction or an ending point. It is also dry land, and with no cars in sight, seems to offer you the opportunity to continue the journey on foot - which I would take as an autonomous journey. You don't take this option however, but I think it is letting you know it is there.

I'm having some trouble with the helicopters, although my gut feeling is telling me that their main purpose was to deliver the ladders, and that in themselves, they may not represent anything other than the concept of 'rising above'. For example, another boat could have taken you off of the ferry and to the land, or you could have embarked via the gangway, but you have very specifically chosen to be lifted off.

I think your chosen method of leaving the boat suggested a need for higher understanding of the emotional relationships represented by the boat. It's as if a practical understanding falls short (you skip moving onto the dry land in the logical way, e.g. pier, gangway, row boat). It's also as if you require to rise above the situation in order to see it clearer, like you need to have some distance from the emotions, to go into the realm of understanding in the mind where emotions are pictures, and you can't feel the tides, but you can see how they affect things by looking down to them from a safe height.

I find colours difficult to interpret, but I've experienced them to sometimes change the whole face of a dream - you can take the components of the dreams and create your story of it, but when you put the colours inh their place, just like in a pencil drawing when you add the paint, section by section, it changes the whole picture if you see it clearly enough. This is a part where the dreamer's own interpretation of colour trumps all others - colours make everyone feel different, and a preference for one colour or another will change with the moods of the individual, the preference is determined by what the dreamer requires or feels at the time, so I may not be much help with this part ...

OK, to leave the boat, you are initially offered a cream ladder, and then a black - both of which you receive when offered to you. It seems that in order to achieve the height, or objectivity, or view, that you want, you must take both in turn. One leads to the other.

I'm going to think about the ladder without the colour first. I see ladders as stepping stones toward a desired position or status. With the ladders being dropped from above you and taking you higher into the air, they could represent your moving upwards to a higher position beyond the practical. They are offered to you by helicopters, which we can assume are being flown by other people - this may suggest their role in aiding your toward your goal. Helicopters hold much less people than ferries do, so this could be a moving toward a more elite position, one of expertise, where the knowledge is higher and spread between the few. It could be connected to a promotion, but I'm not sure, because I see nothing related to work (although bear in mind I do not know your chosen career), but it could be about work in terms of how it affects your personality and how you feel about yourself and your well-being in relation to your position. You seem to be ascending alone, so this could signify a new sense of self, a leaving behind of old parts of you - but this is dependant on whether any people aboard the ferry with you represent yourself, or others in your life. If they are unknown to you in the conscious, it's likely that they are aspects of you that you must leave behind to move above to where you want to be.

The black colour is relatively easy to interpret, yet it's interpretation is rarely specific. Black, as a colour, is all colour prior to manifestation, as such, it's interpretation is pretty open, it is potential, and potential is neither positive or negative, and can lead to either so it is also a risk - one that you take in the dream.

Cream is confusing. It's essentially a combination of white and yellow. I see white as potential also, it's said to hold with it all colour, some even say it is the absence of colour, a blank canvass before the drawing. Yellow is the colour of the sun, and therefore, the self, but I feel it's placement here of the emotional self. If we combine the white and the yellow, we have new potential, ever so slightly coloured by the emotional self. To look at yellow being the colour of the sun again, the sun is often seen to be the bringer of life, of birth, and growth.

I'm torn between whether this points to a career change (but in the sense of rising above your current position), or a shift in your emotional self to a point of higher understanding of yourself. These could of course be connected, the shift in self could lead to the promotion or change, and the promotion or change could lead to the shift in self.

In taking first the illuminated path (cream ladder) you can see where you are going, and you seem to have the goal in sight, but to get to it, you must also take part of the journey 'in the dark' so to speak (the black ladder), a risk.

I don't feel I have shed much light here, but hopefully there may be something of use.

posted August 23, 2011 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
I've read this one a few times, and I get this feel that there is maybe a division between your logical mind and your emotions.

Are you having a time in your life where you feel a tug between the two?
Anyway, it's like you are being offered a hand up, but
the changing colors of white and black seem to me as though perhaps you aren't entirely sure (trust wise) the intentions of the person(s) who are doing the offering?

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posted August 23, 2011 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Abcd,

Please bear with me here, I don't tend to work through dreams in a logical fashion, so what follows will likely be all over the place, I will try to bring it all together if I can, but often I can't get beyond the deconstruction of the parts. Forgive me if I make this more confusing than others may, I am very much a student of dreams.

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No issue at all. On the contrary you are taking so much trouble for which i am grateful.

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OK, you are in a boat, but you make no mention of water - where you aware of a body of water in the dream?
We can make the assumption that the water was present, but if you didn't actually see it in the dream, it's relevance will likely be small. Basically, water can represent emotion, or a connection to the mother. Depending on how it feels to your as an individual, it can also allude to rebirth, if we look at it in the context of baptismal ritual - so it may also have a spiritual flavour. Being on the boat and not actually in the water suggests a level of objectivity with regards to emotions, e.g., it is not the sole perception from which the situation is being viewed from.

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Yes i saw water. And yes this could be a spiritual thing. But it also could be emotional regarding my mentor/guide. So i am actually confused.

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The boat, like all vehicles can simply represent a journey. But as boats are for travelling on water (emotion/mother), this may allude to how you are handl;ing an emotional situation. If you were driving the boat with ease, that would suggest a good level of control over the emotions. You make no mention of this though, and due to your other activities on the boat, it seems that it was being driven by someone else. Thsi suggests that others have an important role to play in how you feel about this journey, their presence is influencing your direction - this is not positive or negative, until you percveive it as such yourself.

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Yes i was just on the ferry and someone else was running it. And we were like on hired services that ply from one shore to the other. So all were basically passengers. And yes i am totally dependent on this path (spiritual).

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A ferry can hold a large number of people, as oppposed to say, a rowing boat. So this may point to your emotional connections with a group, or extended family, rather than a one-on-one.

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Yes this applies to my spiritual side and carrier as well.

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The harbour represents a change of direction or an ending point. It is also dry land, and with no cars in sight, seems to offer you the opportunity to continue the journey on foot - which I would take as an autonomous journey. You don't take this option however, but I think it is letting you know it is there.

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This could then be independent walk in either spiritual journey or in office. I don't think it is possible for me to do either (circumstances).

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I'm having some trouble with the helicopters, although my gut feeling is telling me that their main purpose was to deliver the ladders, and that in themselves, they may not represent anything other than the concept of 'rising above'. For example, another boat could have taken you off of the ferry and to the land, or you could have embarked via the gangway, but you have very specifically chosen to be lifted off.

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OK so that could be a help from higher sources which i accept perhaps.

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I think your chosen method of leaving the boat suggested a need for higher understanding of the emotional relationships represented by the boat. It's as if a practical understanding falls short (you skip moving onto the dry land in the logical way, e.g. pier, gangway, row boat). It's also as if you require to rise above the situation in order to see it clearer, like you need to have some distance from the emotions, to go into the realm of understanding in the mind where emotions are pictures, and you can't feel the tides, but you can see how they affect things by looking down to them from a safe height.

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This is exactly what i am lacking at the moment. A higher perspective. Can't see anything clearly and my head and heart are tearing me apart. Like Gypsee has so rightly pointed out. Both in spiritual aspect and work area.

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I find colours difficult to interpret, but I've experienced them to sometimes change the whole face of a dream -you can take the components of the dreams and create your story of it, but when you put the colours inh their place, just like in a pencil drawing when you add the paint, section by section, it changes the whole picture if you see it clearly enough. This is a part where the dreamer's own interpretation of colour trumps all others -colours make everyone feel different, and a preference for one colour or another will change with the moods of the individual, the preference is determined by what the dreamer requires or feels at the time, so I may not be much help with this part ...

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OK, to leave the boat, you are initially offered a cream ladder, and then a black - both of which you receive when offered to you. It seems that in order to achieve the height, or objectivity, or view, that you want, you must take both in turn. One leads to the other.

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I took the first one but woke up before i decided to take the other one.

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I'm going to think about the ladder without the colour first. I see ladders as stepping stones toward a desired position or status. With the ladders being dropped from above you and taking you higher into the air, they could represent your moving upwards to a higher position beyond the practical. They are offered to you by helicopters, which we can assume are being flown by other people - this may suggest their role in aiding your toward your goal. Helicopters hold much less people than ferries do, so this could be a moving toward a more elite position, one of expertise, where the knowledge is higher and spread between the few. It could be connected to a promotion, but I'm not sure, because I see nothing related to work (although bear in mind I do not know your chosen career), but it could be about work in terms of how it affects your personality and how you feel about yourself and your well-being in relation to your position. You seem to be ascending alone, so this could signify a new sense of self, a leaving behind of old parts of you - but this is dependant on whether any people aboard the ferry with you represent yourself, or others in your life. If they are unknown to you in the conscious, it's likely that they are aspects of you that you must leave behind to move above to where you want to be.

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Yes it could be both in career as well as personality idk which one or both. And i am dead tensed about both. lol I feel as though i am being turned inside out and don't know what to think of it. I wonder whether i am going to be a better person or a terrible one. At present i feel the other one to be more true.

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The black colour is relatively easy to interpret, yet it's interpretation is rarely specific. Black, as a colour, is all colour prior to manifestation, as such, it's interpretation is pretty open, it is potential, and potential is neither positive or negative, and can lead to either so it is also a risk - one that you take in the dream.

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I woke up before i could jump for it or could even think of whether i wanted to.
At present i have two 'choices' in career as well as spiritual life and in both places idk whether to jump towards the risk.

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Cream is confusing. It's essentially a combination of white and yellow. I see white as potential also, it's said to hold with it all colour, some even say it is the absence of colour, a blank canvass before the drawing. Yellow is the colour of the sun, and therefore, the self, but I feel it's placement here of the emotional self. If we combine the white and the yellow, we have new potential, ever so slightly coloured by the emotional self. To look at yellow being the colour of the sun again, the sun is often seen to be the bringer of life, of birth, and growth.

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Even i am confused as to whether i stick to cream or go for black.

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I'm torn between whether this points to a career change (but in the sense of rising above your current position), or a shift in your emotional self to a point of higher understanding of yourself. These could of course be connected, the shift in self could lead to the promotion or change, and the promotion or change could lead to the shift in self.

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Both are equally possible right now. I am breaking into pieces and a new one is emerging may be. My pluto transit through asc and saturn seven and a half year cycle is going on. It could be one way or the other.

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In taking first the illuminated path (cream ladder) you can see where you are going, and you seem to have the goal in sight, but to get to it, you must also take part of the journey 'in the dark' so to speak (the black ladder), a risk.

I don't feel I have shed much light here, but hopefully there may be something of use.

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posted August 10, 2012 04:25 AM            

It is suggested that, a year ago, you were in a situation or involved in an issue from which you looked to leave or escape or change (anticipating how to jump out), an issue/situation that caused you to not be entirely in control of your emotions or other aspects of your life (ferry). The dream suggests that you were "suddenly thrown" an opportunity for escape/change or an opportunity to progress (ladder), although there could have been anxiety related to this progress (jump/catch/climb to plane/helicopter), or perhaps a feeling of not being "grounded" emotionally, mentally, spiritually.

It is indicated that, as you were progressing and hoping to get to some other position or understanding (hoping to get in plane), there was another level to the progress which was an unknown, something not seen beforehand (black) that you would have to progress through as well (ladder). In order to reach higher, there would be uncertainties. Alchemically, black is the first stage in transformation, so we could speculate that the effort you put forth in making the necessary progress, even when you were faced with unknowns, was the beginning of something new, some sort of growth in your life.

You asked Gypsee, "Why doesn't it tell more than that like the choice that i ought to make?" The dream was not telling you what choice to make but rather reflected the issues of the time and hinted at what to expect according to the choices you were making and the path you already chose, or were considering to choose.

Make any sense?

So, what was going on in your life last year at this time which fits this scenario? How has it worked out?

Thank you for sharing your dream.

posted August 10, 2012 09:20 AM            

It appears you wish to be "rescued" and two opportunities arise. One is light, and one, the higher up position, is dark.

Ladders and stairs always tell of ascension, and climbing up. That this ladder was tossed out from someone (a helicopter) flying above you and not such a sturdy, grounded method to climb up from, and tossed out to you from a different mode of perspective (above water and in the "air"), tells a bit about who or what group will toss you a life-line when you are seeking it. Then along comes another person or group (the helicopter higher up) and that one throws out a "dark" ladder attempting to override the initial line that was tossed to you. Both were floppy, hanging from a vehicle in the air (unstable line and it's security is in the hands of the pilot of that helicopter - you are not in control here) and while the position may be a higher position, the climb up is dark. Think carefully before you accept anything that is not on the up-and-up or anything that is even the slightest bit dirty or against protocol or the rules.

Most interesting to me was your method of travel - on the water in a Ferry being carried to and fro by another along with a group of people who also were of the same perspective as you. When you drive an automobile, if you are behind the wheel, you are the master of wherever you are going in life and the way you are driving the automobile tells of your frame of mind and the resulting decisions you make that follow this frame of mind (whether you crash or not). When you are in a larger vessel, and not behind the wheel, you are not in control of your our life and you are allowing outside influences to steer your thoughts. In this case, you are not grounded and are on water, being carried by another along with a group of people together and then at some point you are looking to be rescued or if you weren't looking to be rescued, someone will come along who thinks you need to be rescued, or maybe the being rescued is an indication of how you will feel at some future point. Either way, you are thrown two lines, both you have to climb the ladder to get to the vehicle. One is light, one is dark but a higher spot. BOTH will not put you in control of your life (decisions you make) but rather put your life (decisions you make) into the hands of others. You've let someone or you will let someone drive you to a place where you will need a life-line to get out of it and at that point two are offered. Whether you accept this and accept to continue to be carried by the line of thinking of others (what got you in this spot in the first place) or whether you choose to be independent and free and go your own way, will be determined by the decisions you make in the future.

The best advise anyone can give you and what I believe your angels and guides are trying to tell you, is to not allow yourself to get into that position in the first place. Command your own ship, drive your own car, meaning choose for yourself, especially the way you think and the things you chose to believe. Don't engage in gossip, innuendo, and hearsay as that will inevitably steer your thoughts. We all learn what we live, if we choose to live with untruthful words and idle gossip, then that is what we live - what we believe in because that is what we know.

Look for truth in everything so you will know truth when you see it and hear it, and by choosing to do so, you will know when what you hear is not the truth or you are being mislead. In order to see truth in others and the things around you, you must first look for truth within yourself. Through that, you will see the truth that lies in others or recognize when it's not right. Those we choose to surround ourselves with ALWAYS mirror what we feel inside and the manner in which we perceive things - the manner in which we "choose" to think. Think clearly, carefully, and most importantly, think independently and then chose wisely.

I wish you clarity,
whereabouts

posted August 10, 2012 09:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Abcd,

Please bear with me here, I don't tend to work through dreams in a logical fashion, so what follows will likely be all over the place, I will try to bring it all together if I can, but often I can't get beyond the deconstruction of the parts. Forgive me if I make this more confusing than others may, I am very much a student of dreams.

OK, you are in a boat, but you make no mention of water - where you aware of a body of water in the dream?
We can make the assumption that the water was present, but if you didn't actually see it in the dream, it's relevance will likely be small. Basically, water can represent emotion, or a connection to the mother. Depending on how it feels to your as an individual, it can also allude to rebirth, if we look at it in the context of baptismal ritual - so it may also have a spiritual flavour. Being on the boat and not actually in the water suggests a level of objectivity with regards to emotions, e.g., it is not the sole perception from which the situation is being viewed from.

The boat, like all vehicles can simply represent a journey. But as boats are for travelling on water (emotion/mother), this may allude to how you are handl;ing an emotional situation. If you were driving the boat with ease, that would suggest a good level of control over the emotions. You make no mention of this though, and due to your other activities on the boat, it seems that it was being driven by someone else. Thsi suggests that others have an important role to play in how you feel about this journey, their presence is influencing your direction - this is not positive or negative, until you percveive it as such yourself.

A ferry can hold a large number of people, as oppposed to say, a rowing boat. So this may point to your emotional connections with a group, or extended family, rather than a one-on-one.

The harbour represents a change of direction or an ending point. It is also dry land, and with no cars in sight, seems to offer you the opportunity to continue the journey on foot - which I would take as an autonomous journey. You don't take this option however, but I think it is letting you know it is there.

I'm having some trouble with the helicopters, although my gut feeling is telling me that their main purpose was to deliver the ladders, and that in themselves, they may not represent anything other than the concept of 'rising above'. For example, another boat could have taken you off of the ferry and to the land, or you could have embarked via the gangway, but you have very specifically chosen to be lifted off.

I think your chosen method of leaving the boat suggested a need for higher understanding of the emotional relationships represented by the boat. It's as if a practical understanding falls short (you skip moving onto the dry land in the logical way, e.g. pier, gangway, row boat). It's also as if you require to rise above the situation in order to see it clearer, like you need to have some distance from the emotions, to go into the realm of understanding in the mind where emotions are pictures, and you can't feel the tides, but you can see how they affect things by looking down to them from a safe height.

I find colours difficult to interpret, but I've experienced them to sometimes change the whole face of a dream - you can take the components of the dreams and create your story of it, but when you put the colours inh their place, just like in a pencil drawing when you add the paint, section by section, it changes the whole picture if you see it clearly enough. This is a part where the dreamer's own interpretation of colour trumps all others - colours make everyone feel different, and a preference for one colour or another will change with the moods of the individual, the preference is determined by what the dreamer requires or feels at the time, so I may not be much help with this part ...

OK, to leave the boat, you are initially offered a cream ladder, and then a black - both of which you receive when offered to you. It seems that in order to achieve the height, or objectivity, or view, that you want, you must take both in turn. One leads to the other.

I'm going to think about the ladder without the colour first. I see ladders as stepping stones toward a desired position or status. With the ladders being dropped from above you and taking you higher into the air, they could represent your moving upwards to a higher position beyond the practical. They are offered to you by helicopters, which we can assume are being flown by other people - this may suggest their role in aiding your toward your goal. Helicopters hold much less people than ferries do, so this could be a moving toward a more elite position, one of expertise, where the knowledge is higher and spread between the few. It could be connected to a promotion, but I'm not sure, because I see nothing related to work (although bear in mind I do not know your chosen career), but it could be about work in terms of how it affects your personality and how you feel about yourself and your well-being in relation to your position. You seem to be ascending alone, so this could signify a new sense of self, a leaving behind of old parts of you - but this is dependant on whether any people aboard the ferry with you represent yourself, or others in your life. If they are unknown to you in the conscious, it's likely that they are aspects of you that you must leave behind to move above to where you want to be.

The black colour is relatively easy to interpret, yet it's interpretation is rarely specific. Black, as a colour, is all colour prior to manifestation, as such, it's interpretation is pretty open, it is potential, and potential is neither positive or negative, and can lead to either so it is also a risk - one that you take in the dream.

Cream is confusing. It's essentially a combination of white and yellow. I see white as potential also, it's said to hold with it all colour, some even say it is the absence of colour, a blank canvass before the drawing. Yellow is the colour of the sun, and therefore, the self, but I feel it's placement here of the emotional self. If we combine the white and the yellow, we have new potential, ever so slightly coloured by the emotional self. To look at yellow being the colour of the sun again, the sun is often seen to be the bringer of life, of birth, and growth.

I'm torn between whether this points to a career change (but in the sense of rising above your current position), or a shift in your emotional self to a point of higher understanding of yourself. These could of course be connected, the shift in self could lead to the promotion or change, and the promotion or change could lead to the shift in self.

In taking first the illuminated path (cream ladder) you can see where you are going, and you seem to have the goal in sight, but to get to it, you must also take part of the journey 'in the dark' so to speak (the black ladder), a risk.

I don't feel I have shed much light here, but hopefully there may be something of use.

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posted August 10, 2012 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Ra:
You will find my thoughts very similar to the thoughts posted by GypseeWind and Voix de la Mer.

It is suggested that, a year ago, you were in a situation or involved in an issue from which you looked to leave or escape or change (anticipating how to jump out), an issue/situation that caused you to not be entirely in control of your emotions or other aspects of your life (ferry). The dream suggests that you were "suddenly thrown" an opportunity for escape/change or an opportunity to progress (ladder), although there could have been anxiety related to this progress (jump/catch/climb to plane/helicopter), or perhaps a feeling of not being "grounded" emotionally, mentally, spiritually.

It is indicated that, as you were progressing and hoping to get to some other position or understanding (hoping to get in plane), there was another level to the progress which was an unknown, something not seen beforehand (black) that you would have to progress through as well (ladder). In order to reach higher, there would be uncertainties. Alchemically, black is the first stage in transformation, so we could speculate that the effort you put forth in making the necessary progress, even when you were faced with unknowns, was the beginning of something new, some sort of growth in your life.

You asked Gypsee, "[i]Why doesn't it tell more than that like the choice that i ought to make?" The dream was not telling you what choice to make but rather reflected the issues of the time and hinted at what to expect according to the choices you were making and the path you already chose, or were considering to choose.

Make any sense?

So, what was going on in your life last year at this time which fits this scenario? How has it worked out?

Thank you for sharing your dream.

Walk in Peace
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posted August 11, 2012 09:12 AM            

Good luck!

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Originally posted by Love&Light:
Thank You Ra and whereabouts for so much trouble that you have taken. Yes this analysis does ring true. I am turning inside out both emotionally, life situation wise and spiritually. And the helicopters indicate help from two options. One which i had and another higher up which i am getting. I was confused as to what to do. I had to make the choice this week. So i remembered the dream. And how apt it was. I get such dreams which foretell me of situations/choices/happenings. I do get them somewhat but at that time i cannot fully fathom their meanings. It is only later when the situation arises do i remember it and realise that OK so this was it! Now the probabilities are tremendous and i am overwhelmed by them and am not able to make up mind as to what exactly i want. I am like a child who has entered a chocolate shop and wants little bit of everything. What choices i make now will mould my life ahead. And i am so scattered. Result inaction. I seem to want little bit of this and little bit of that. There was another choice dream that i had to make. I have mentioned it elsewhere here in this forum. And i think the choice was made by someone for me. And it was excellent. Even now i am not in control of my destiny a lot though it appears that i am. What with so many choices in all the spheres of my life. Someone is already doing it for me. I think its no one less than HIM because they are coming depending upon what i had asked years and years before. So I made my decisions then unknowingly. And they were quite good. Only now i have lot of choices again, apparently, and am wondering again as to what to do in line with what i have dished out for myself earlier. I am getting greedy. But again i am not totally in control so....... so its the same old tug of war between choices and destiny. Pphhheewwww!

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posted August 11, 2012 12:15 PM            

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Sounds like you are in pretty good shape, regardless of which way you go. That's great! Maybe you will have more dreams that will point a way. I'd be interested in hearing them.

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Na. The choices that i have made earlier and am still making may not permit me i guess to have a very comfortable and secure materialistic life as i had so far. Thanks to me.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/001150.html

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Thank you whereabouts for your practical suggestions.

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