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Panthera Leo
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posted December 24, 2014 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone

There isn't really a nice way to describe this dream so I will just spit it out.I had dream in which I had these Asian women help me perform a ritual which would summon Death in order for me to go to the underworld in order to make a deal.I can't remember what I was making a deal for but whatever the reason I was doing it for I'm sure was a selfish reason and for my own gain.The catch was I had to name someone who I imagine would have to pay the price for my deal.The women suggested the name of a woman that I knew. I was determined to go through with the deal and I suspected that this woman had betrayed me in some way so I said "fair enough put her name forward".So Death shows up and I get into his car and we drive up an old street I used to live on to turn and then drive to the underworld.Before the dream ended I started to quiz Death about the order of things and about the universe and good and evil.He starts to explain things and I finish his sentence and basically let him I'm not completely oblivious to the evil scheme of things and that I hadn't made an innocent misguided mistake when I made that deal.

I am just curious as to how I am supposed to interpret it.
Thanks everyone in advance


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Ayelet
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posted December 24, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
Hi everyone

There isn't really a nice way to describe this dream so I will just spit it out.I had dream in which I had these Asian women help me perform a ritual which would summon Death in order for me to go to the underworld in order to make a deal.I can't remember what I was making a deal for but whatever the reason I was doing it for I'm sure was a selfish reason and for my own gain.The catch was I had to name someone who I imagine would have to pay the price for my deal.The women suggested the name of a woman that I knew. I was determined to go through with the deal and I suspected that this woman had betrayed me in some way so I said "fair enough put her name forward".So Death shows up and I get into his car and we drive up an old street I used to live on to turn and then drive to the underworld.Before the dream ended I started to quiz Death about the order of things and about the universe and good and evil.He starts to explain things and I finish his sentence and basically let him I'm not completely oblivious to the evil scheme of things and that I hadn't made an innocent misguided mistake when I made that deal.

I am just curious as to how I am supposed to interpret it.
Thanks everyone in advance


The theme of evil fascinates you, or used to fascinate you. The old street from where you turn is symbolic, in my opinion, to an old way, or how you used to do things in the past. You wish to stay in control and show death you "know how it goes", and demonstrate you are not naive. You wish not to be vulnerable.
You take the vision of yourself doing something utterly selfish, even hurting another woman for vengance, and use it to explore the scheme and order of things in the world and the underworld, or after-life. There is a grain of authentic curiousity and search amidst the evil you encounter and participate in.

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Panthera Leo
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posted December 24, 2014 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ayelet

I think I could say that I definitely feel as I have gotten older I have become quite familiar with the darker side of of my nature.I haven't completely accepted it but I haven't exactly left it out in the cold.If I am very honest I believe the universe is more neutral and chaotic.Some part of me deep down would love to believe that good triumphs over all evil but the reality just feels like a pipe dream.I feel like things aren't usually always as black and white as they seem to be.I do believe that good and evil both exist but at the same time I think there just something that exists in this reality that stops either side from truly getting the better of the other and stops either of them being truly right.I feel like there is a lot I would love to elaborate on but I don't know how to say it.Perhaps everything in this Universe has the right to be equal and unequal to be birthed and destroyed and rebirthed.Everything has the the right to be loved and hated.Everything has the right to fight for survival and to try to remain standing. Its like a never ending cycle like a wheel of fate that's always spinning.I would also like to say that I feel just because something creates something else doesn't give it an excuse to be pardoned for its crimes.Just because you are a male or female, masculine or feminine or a mother or father or a divine mother or divine father doesn't mean that if you do something wrong that you shouldn't be above being cut down to size.I feel that that there is no better sex,sexuality,race or religion I just believe we are sort of locked in an never ending struggle with each other.I think I just find it hard to be to conected to anything any more. I feel like everyone should be punished equally and I mean equally there should be no predjudice.
I feel I'm just myself whether its good or bad,through the highs the lows and the indifference.
I think at the moment I just feel like I don't know how to feel any more.

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GeminiKarat
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posted December 25, 2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please read it as an opinion:
I have no idea how old you are, but your thoughts are pretty mature. Someone can appreciate the light with the knowledge of the darkness on a different level. You have met “death” as a symbol of rebirth many times this year. The season of winter is my personal time to think about the things that happened during that year. I like the idea of the Dream Log of some of the people in here. I do not read them as they are private in my personal opinion. I cannot remember every dream of yours, but there was a point in your life with a lot of dark birds outside and even more broken glass inside of you and you dreamt about a beautiful horse lately.
Is there any chance that this dream wants you to remember all of your transformations?

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Ayelet
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posted December 25, 2014 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Panthera Leo,
Your thoughts of good and evil and of equality are very interesting. Why do you write about punishment? Who do you think should be punished?
And what brought you to the point that you don't know how you feel anymore? Is that to do with the dream, or with your concept of good and evil?
I myself believe like you that they both exist, but that evil belongs more to the illusion realm, even though it may be acutely felt. We LIVE through it, Remember that if you read "live" from the end to the beginning you get "evil". So it is an experience one cannot avoid in life. But one can change the perspective through which one think about it or respond to it. I don't know, I presume, as I believe in the triunph of good and that it is the eternal realm, but i am not enlightened yet. And there is the matter of definitions: One should discern between the two. There is ephemeral good, like to satisfy hunger, for example, but that brings to more hunger later. So i don't know how good it is, moreover that it has to do with the consumption of another living thing (whether an animal or a plant). So is it eternal, ultimate good? I don't think so. But hunger is not an ideal kind of experience either. I think breatharianism is the best. I still can't do it.

I wonder what you think of that, and about the questions I asked you in the beginning.

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posted December 26, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course not all the good and evil topic revolves around food...

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Panthera Leo
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posted December 27, 2014 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Gemini and Ayelet

I'm sorry about taking so long to reply back.
I have just been In a sort mood I just don't no how to describe. In don't know if I should be angry,happy,apathetic or sad or what I should be thinking or feeling.

I would agree with you that winter is a good time of year to reflect on life and the previous year.It is possible that I am being reminded of my previous transformations.Although I think I transformation little by little I never seem to fully turn into a swan.I can learn new skills and I can make positive changes in my life and I can move on but I have to be honest it all just seems futile.

Ayelet I don't know the whole universe,good and evil in and life general any more.
In an ideal world would just be peaceful.There would be inequality or war or strife or hatred or any of the other sins and negative emotions.The problem is in this world all of those things do exist.Good and evil does exist.Regardless of which path you choose their will always be someone or some others who will choose another path or work against you.Sometimes even the best of of us will do the most horrible things under the right circumstances.If I'm very honest I feel as If the universe can't be the way it should be then it may as well destroy us all humans,gods and goddesses and every thing else in existence.I just feel sort of tired of the constant drama that is life.I am sick of it all.
Its a very vague answer but it would be pointless to go into more detail.I guess I'm sick of trying of to do the right thing and sick of doing the wrong even sometimes deliberately and even if I enjoyed it.I am sick of trying find answers from the universe and finding nothing from the universe.

Thank you both for your help any all help given to me in the past and also you Ra whenever you read this

I apologise for not really going into a lot of depth about what's going through my head after you both have been so kind to take the time to reply.

It's early in the morning here Northern Ireland I haven't slept so I'm going to bed after I post this.I will check back later.I have been feeling a bit off a lately and considering making like the Cheshire Cat and doing a disappearing act.
I was thinking that I might leave LindaLand. I haven't decided if I'm staying or going yet.I just thought It would be rude to slip away without saying anything at all.

Regardless of the decision I make though I want you to know that GeminiKarat, Ayelet and Ra I wish you all the best of Luck

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GeminiKarat
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posted December 27, 2014 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for your honest response.

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posted December 27, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Panthera Leo. I presume you are tired of the quest and of spiritual discussions because of your own understanding of it through life experiences and inner experiences. Perhaps taking a break from trying to understand may be a good idea. IIt seems this is an important point in your life, even if it may look like a dark period. I don't know. I don't know why there is evil in the universe, why a benevolent creator has permitted it. That's a good question. I used to figure out that is the result of giving free will to imperfect creatures, but then there is the question of why we are made this way so we arrive to these negative situations and behave the way we do. I don't know, I'm not God. I know I am not perfect, and so I learn humility. I don't think I would have done a better job and I don't know why I have to suffer through my imperfections, having been created the way I am. I just understand I have responsibility. And this is one of the key words for me.

So I'm sorry if I don't know how to answer. If you need to disappear, then do. But, without despairing you, one cannot truly disappear, 'cause one is with oneself always. So my advice, without knowing or getting into details, is be true to yourself, stick to the good as you see it no matter what or who gets in your way, and if you are tired of conflict just think how you can make life more harmonious in different ways, perhaps taking a vacation if you can, and if you can't then rest as much as you can, perhaps write down what you feel, be close to nature or animals or even stones (krystals). You are tired. You need refreshing.
There is good and evil and we cannot control other people. We are only responsible for our own acts. If you differentiate between right and wrong and stick to the right, there is a bonus of feeling good about yourself. Since one cannot run from oneself, that bonus is major.

I too wish you all the best. I wrote from how I feel, and these things I wrote here I am telling to myself as well. Don't discourage. You are a Leo, ruled by the sun! I am sure it will come out again and shine for you.

All the best for you

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