posted January 27, 2016 02:25 PM            

What I hear GK saying, and your dream, is your psyche presents to you a need for casting off of old restrictions(bra) (reminiscent of 1960s Bra Burner!!! LOL)-- especially the ones you may have been fed by society/family/your mom/the feminine(breasts) about a woman's role. Something you learned about yourself through these mediums are presenting to you as a 'limitation' now at this present time in your journey. This could have been an error in thinking from your past needing to be liberated from your life now. You ARE ready for it.

It's something you're 'already' aware of, and something your higher self already knows and is prepared (in advance) to deal with. Just waiting on you, now.

You may have many anxieties that you're working through towards doing this, but once you begin the preparation you'll start feeling comfortable about it, it will fit you, and what was troubling will disappear as you deal with it.

And, *ahem* since we're in sexy~sexy-time with Mars Scorpio making connections with Mercury-Pluto in Capricorn (with Venus there now too), let me act 'outside of the restriction' of social taboos, and mention to you that 'blue' also relates to sex, and nudity and taboo secret desires (perhaps), and the feelings you have about your own body and finding esteem.
...Something that might have happened to you before, still has grief trapped with it, and need to air it out with someone. Lay down your fears and talk about it with a friend.

as an aside for a moment, to pay my respects... I haven't frequented this forum much, and I'm here because of Panthera Leo inviting me back (ty Panthera), I want to express deep gratitude towards the MODS here who handle this forum with such grace and dedication, on a day-to-day basis-- your wisdoms are awe-inspiring and I admire your ability to give insights soooo much.)

Anyways, I'm going to be bold and take a wacky leap. I recall having an important (precog) dream about teeth right at USA 9-11... So!, I ask you {you don't have to answer, these are just 'for you', if you want} about any kind of connection you may have to the Mayan culture, interests in it, or things having to do with New York City area (bridges, specifically), or things you are frightened may happen or 'repeat' themselves from your past, as though they have been 'set in stone'....

Working through your fears, you'll know what to do, and this may avert repeating a disaster for you. You'll be 'extremely relieved' to know that it's not the same... {{ }}

Would also look at the 'practical' side as far as health-concerns?

Do you need a visit to your dentist?

Are you getting enough milk/calcium/etc everything that's about the 'nutrition' that milk or milk products provide in your diet?

Do you need to pay more attention right now to preparing for bed? (Things in the environment-- your bed, your bedclothes, your surroundings, your pre-bedtime routines). Do you need to accomodate a need for the body and psyche to feel more-relaxed before you go to bed to sleep at night? Practice breaths, breathing. Relaxations. ~Hot milk?

posted January 28, 2016 12:08 PM            

I don't know if Panthera meant to invite someone who was sooo talkative and perhaps lively~emotive? But, I DID show up~~ as I'm a person of my word, at least. And Panthera is so kind.

For bad or for awesomeness-- sometimes you just have to be 'who you are' and hope that there are some unconditional souls around you...

I think you (and Ra) do a FABULOUS job. Don't need too many words to say 'fabulous' and say 'much-appreciated' too.

So Yes!!!! ... The Brahhhh! *ahem*

... It's a story which is old for Women nowadays... They have improved and enhanced the comfort and looks of these contraptions immensely... which I have appreciated (being a Mars Cancer, I hold a lot of 'water'~~ it's true what they say).

And bras today are MUCH better than the 'breast-flattening' binders and tightened 'corsets' we had to wear in recent centuries-past. 1800 & 1900s

The Bra had become the symbol for Women's Emancipation for a number of us involved in women's rights during the 1960s and beyond. There are some people who say bras had nothing to do with it? ~whatever, LOL. Must have been 'that' for more people than some think or say~!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bras

During those earlier eras (of my time), there was a bawdy US female comedian named Rusty Warren. She used to do 'shocking' taboo smashing standups.

If you're not easily offended, and enjoy feisty language, you might find this to be hilarious (AND shocking!!)

In the comments, some call her an older rendition of the modern Amy Schumer... {{hug!!}}

posted January 29, 2016 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
Please read it as an opinion:
Teeth in a dream are associated with independence, power, ability to nurture and communicate. The bra can be seen as a symbol of the intimate female self.
This dream indicates that inner freedom(=blue) can be found in the liberation(=took bra off) of the intimate female self(=bra).

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posted January 29, 2016 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
^ That's what I was going to say, GK, but you get to the point QUICKLY!! *smile* You are more succinct with your words!

What I hear GK saying, and your dream, is your psyche presents to you a need for casting off of old restrictions(bra) (reminiscent of 1960s Bra Burner!!! LOL)-- especially the ones you may have been fed by society/family/your mom/the feminine(breasts) about a woman's role. Something you learned about yourself through these mediums are presenting to you as a 'limitation' now at this present time in your journey. This could have been an error in thinking from your past needing to be liberated from your life now. You ARE ready for it.

It's something you're 'already' aware of, and something your higher self already knows and is prepared (in advance) to deal with. Just waiting on you, now.

You may have many anxieties that you're working through towards doing this, but once you begin the preparation you'll start feeling comfortable about it, it will fit you, and what was troubling will disappear as you deal with it.

And, *ahem* since we're in sexy~sexy-time with Mars Scorpio making connections with Mercury-Pluto in Capricorn (with Venus there now too), let me act 'outside of the restriction' of social taboos, and mention to you that 'blue' also relates to sex, and nudity and taboo secret desires (perhaps), and the feelings you have about your own body and finding esteem.
...Something that might have happened to you before, still has grief trapped with it, and need to air it out with someone. Lay down your fears and talk about it with a friend.

as an aside for a moment, to pay my respects... I haven't frequented this forum much, and I'm here because of Panthera Leo inviting me back (ty Panthera), I want to express deep gratitude towards the MODS here who handle this forum with such grace and dedication, on a day-to-day basis-- your wisdoms are awe-inspiring and I admire your ability to give insights soooo much.)

Anyways, I'm going to be bold and take a wacky leap. I recall having an important (precog) dream about teeth right at USA 9-11... So!, I ask you {you don't have to answer, these are just 'for you', if you want} about any kind of connection you may have to the Mayan culture, interests in it, or things having to do with New York City area (bridges, specifically), or things you are frightened may happen or 'repeat' themselves from your past, as though they have been 'set in stone'....

Working through your fears, you'll know what to do, and this may avert repeating a disaster for you. You'll be 'extremely relieved' to know that it's not the same... {{ }}

Would also look at the 'practical' side as far as health-concerns?

Do you need a visit to your dentist?

Are you getting enough milk/calcium/etc everything that's about the 'nutrition' that milk or milk products provide in your diet?

Do you need to pay more attention right now to preparing for bed? (Things in the environment-- your bed, your bedclothes, your surroundings, your pre-bedtime routines). Do you need to accomodate a need for the body and psyche to feel more-relaxed before you go to bed to sleep at night? Practice breaths, breathing. Relaxations. ~Hot milk?

Thank you sooo much for sharing this dream. (I got a lot out of it too! So much fun.)

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It's weird though! My family is such a bra burning family! O_O We definitely don't follow many of societies "traditional" roles for women or, men for that matter! Ready for what? D: I'm so confused! Ready to free myself of societies' limitations that I have placed upon myself? I am working through anxieties but I think I'm good now. Working towards what? Omg, I feel like there's some hidden message that I don't know about. xD oo I could use some more self esteem, mine has ran a bit low :c. No sexy sexy time though... not till marriage, at least I think that's what I want. Maybe not. I did write a bit in a journal, that helped a bit. Thank you ^-^

I might need to visit the dentist. I need to stop drinking/eating so much milk! I'm lactose-intolerant. Hehe Ooo, I've thought about preparing for bed better. I normally just jump right on in, but have been looking into changing that soon. I don't think I can relax. :c

posted January 29, 2016 09:25 PM            

I think we are all in the same ballpark.

This is an anxiety dream that could suggest you are having difficulty "breaking down" (teeth) or incorporating some issue, situation, attitude, emotion or some other energy. If you can't "chew" on it, you can't "digest" it. It could be suggested that you need to "get something off your chest", or release whatever is weighing you down or otherwise restricting you (take off bra) in order to restore your ability to "chew"/understand/integrate.

posted January 31, 2016 12:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ra:
Hello Debby

I think we are all in the same ballpark.

This is an anxiety dream that could suggest you are having difficulty "breaking down" (teeth) or incorporating some issue, situation, attitude, emotion or some other energy. If you can't "chew" on it, you can't "digest" it. It could be suggested that you need to "get something off your chest", or release whatever is weighing you down or otherwise restricting you (take off bra) in order to restore your ability to "chew"/understand/integrate.

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posted January 31, 2016 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
I've been going through a lot in my own life right now. AND, I've been in a more-inspirational mood than usual for me.

So I apologize if I sounded so intense. It's part of my OWN intensity right now to break out of my limited thinking, and change my life.

So, I want to THANK you for bringing me the opportunity to examine and work on healing these issues in my own life. I'll take YOUR dream with my response as my own omen, too. Thank you for being one of the Beautiful Dreamers here at LL *smile*.... And for the fruit from your own psyche availing itself to help my own. You're a Blessing!

Into the practical, now. I have a story to relay to you. I hope it brings a perspective to your dreams about finding a partner and marrying someone you love, 'for life'. (I personally have a Heart for the idealistic "Forever-Marriage"... that you stay in and you work it all out, no divorcing, for better or for worse. In my own heart soul and mind, I like and want 'commitments' and to STAY in that commitment, for life.)

I've had two marriages in my early life. Ended in divorce, and shredded me, like feeling left-for-dead, and bleeding without relent. I've been unpaired (marriage, single-sex) basically since 1997 now... so that's about 20 years (only had maybe two one-night stands, and that's it).

In your post, you spoke about 'saving yourself sexually' for the wedding night. I've known two people for whom that worked out perfectly. And I envied them (in a good way), because when you've 'found' 'the one' you want to feel that this is the ONLY person you've ever known... That you completely belong TO one another, and that there be no other memory to spoil.

But I'm here to present you with another perspective, now that I've lived my life to 60+yrs.

Sexually? My first marriage was blessed. I had a partner who matched me. And that was a fantastic part of our relationship.

Then, with the divorce, I got 'religion'-- conservative, but not too much (tg!!!!!!).

The second man I married, we 'waited' to have sex until the wedding night. ...

You know?, I wondered 'how' it was that he could be so strong and "resist" my taunting sexual advances on him? But I wanted to 'respect him' and I projected Uprightness in a man who was NOT that?

I was extremely naïve (or rather, maybe, I had been extraordinarily 'lucky' in coupling-partnerships before. I HONESTLY had NO CLUE that 'a man' could have 'a problem' with any part of sex.

I was raised among (let me say) 'victorian' type women who always discussed how men were animals, and all they wanted was sex all the time.

I remember how there was inside of me I was secretly dreaming like~~ yeah?, omg, just bring it ON!! (roflmao!!).

On that wedding night with 'saving it for marriage' ex2, he 'confessed' to me that he was actually impotent, and would quietly put myself and my two children (from 1st marriage) in an apartment in the region where I used to live. He'd support us, then quietly I could divorce.

I was shocked. --- Apparently, BEFORE he said 'I Do' he had done the research and was ready to implement it. And those sort of 'over the top' fear behaviors I had seen (and lovingly stayed strong with) on the wedding day before the ceremony, were of HIS DECEPTION....

I felt so 'stung'. I trusted him ALL the way the courting process. Gave him Honor. Such DECEIPT!!

While we were 'dating' it didn't appear that he had any kind of problem *ahem* (to me)... but he MADE it a problem afterwards in our relationship, in order to manipulate in the relationship.

He "played" the 'impotent man' game in order to 'manipulate' me. That was a 'sexual game' and treachery that I was NOT happy with.

I (with deep planning and strategy) refused to 'give in' whole hog to all that BS on how your supposed to treat and approach a man who can't get it up? Pure HOG-WASH BS!!! Had it been 'real'?, then I absolutely would have gone with whatever. But I 'perceived' and SAW THROUGH what 'this' was all about.

It was his NARCISSISM. His controlling-spirit. Not impotency. Seemed curious how he could *ahem* straighten out this problem (lol) when he saw I wasn't going to buy into it.

So things were okay for a while...

Then, he turned physically abusive, and one day approached for sex... which I LOVED. I was like yes!!!

But ~something started to go 'wrong' that time... and he 'raped' me instead. It was terrifying. And the GREATEST HURT?, was that he was using The Word of God to justify his abuse, telling me all those 'scriptures' written in some of the chapters written by Apostle Paul-- (if you are into the Christian Bible, then YOU know which ones they are).

Debby4....

It is important that you have a man who is 'complete'. Someone who will treat you like you're special every day of your life. Someone who wants to REALLY know you, and be able to please you.

I had two daughters. They grew-up IN Church, conservative. After I married ex2, felt trapped (I was his 'trophy'), and they were old enough, I sat them down and had a serious serious talk about whether or not to abstain.

I told them that if they were in a serious relationship with a man they were thinking they were going to really marry?, and they were in the engagement period after the ring) but BEFORE the marriage---, test him out.

I know that might sound 'wrong' perhaps to you? (And that's really up to you to decide?) It is good to abstain, but then too, you need to protect your WHOLE human life interest.

Sex is like the magical glue in a marriage. If he's not right, then you've got problems you didn't NEED to take upon yourself. Don't sell yourself short.... Life is Long, and marriage can be Heaven and Hell rolled up as one giant gift.

Sex is important for re-creating (babies), AND, it is an important part of your recreation life.... (play, sharing, uniting, being TRULY 'one' with one another emotionally, spiritually, physically).

Don't discount the physical side of the marriage. Physical is HUGE. Many little things can be worked out more easily if you two have that ability to release between the two of you. (Make-up sex can be great!)

So, {{hugs}} the call IS up to you, if you're going to conform to extremely conservative views 'perfectly' or not. Just make sure that YOU will know that your sexual health will be able to be satisfied.

Some may 'marry' because they don't want to 'lust' and burn....

Honey,? .... Get over that, because YOU might be marrying an abuser, or a deceiver.

Once you "pop" (climax) the excess-energy and get rid of that lusting 'sexual tension' then you may get to 'see' the real person that you're about to give up your whole life for. You just may have saved yourself a LOT of money (divorce and all that pain), and a painful painful life of having married 'the wrong one' JUST BECAUSE you held back from having the sex.

~~ If you "sin"...? (have sex) Then God is faithful and just to Forgive Your Sins, and reconcile you to Himself once more-- completely, 'just-as-though you had never 'sinned'.' You just have to forgive yourself... actually?, CHANGE the rules. Don't feel guilty for one single moment.

The greater-sin would BE your life of endless UNHappiness..... That would be true tragedy. Not the 'fulfilling' of expectations of man-made rules. God knew we were rule-breakers, and he made a way to 'fix' it. He KNOWS we are frail as humans, yet He Loves us Completely, and made a way of escape from all the guiltiness.

So ~~~ just (in a way) cut the religious bullcrap when it comes to your life. There IS wiggle room. GOD made that. MAN condemns, GOD forgives. And you need to forgive yourself..... completely, and often. Even every day of your life!

Speaking with a deep Mother's Heart here. A Mother who LOVES The Lord, Loves God with everything inside of her, and has BEEN through the pain, through the war trenches of 'real' life.

(I hope this hasn't been too shocking for you... Be at Peace, Dear One. HAVE a Happy Life. So Much Love.)

(music) Wedding Song (Paul Stookey, Peter Paul & Mary, 25th Anniv) [3:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrTfNTzAvYY

(music) Ready For Love (The India Arie, lyrics) [4:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moOXLgd519I

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posted January 31, 2016 12:30 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
I've been going through a lot in my own life right now. AND, I've been in a more-inspirational mood than usual for me.

So I apologize if I sounded so intense. It's part of my OWN intensity right now to break out of my limited thinking, and change my life.

So, I want to THANK you for bringing me the opportunity to examine and work on healing these issues in my own life. I'll take YOUR dream with my response as my own omen, too. Thank you for being one of the Beautiful Dreamers here at LL *smile*.... And for the fruit from your own psyche availing itself to help my own. You're a Blessing!

Into the practical, now. I have a story to relay to you. I hope it brings a perspective to your dreams about finding a partner and marrying someone you love, 'for life'. (I personally have a Heart for the idealistic "Forever-Marriage"... that you stay in and you work it all out, no divorcing, for better or for worse. In my own heart soul and mind, I like and want 'commitments' and to STAY in that commitment, for life.)

I've had two marriages in my early life. Ended in divorce, and shredded me, like feeling left-for-dead, and bleeding without relent. I've been unpaired (marriage, single-sex) basically since 1997 now... so that's about 20 years (only had maybe two one-night stands, and that's it).

In your post, you spoke about 'saving yourself sexually' for the wedding night. I've known two people for whom that worked out perfectly. And I envied them (in a good way), because when you've 'found' 'the one' you want to feel that this is the ONLY person you've ever known... That you completely belong TO one another, and that there be no other memory to spoil.

But I'm here to present you with another perspective, now that I've lived my life to 60+yrs.

Sexually? My first marriage was blessed. I had a partner who matched me. And that was a fantastic part of our relationship.

Then, with the divorce, I got 'religion'-- conservative, but not too much (tg!!!!!!).

The second man I married, we 'waited' to have sex until the wedding night. ...

You know?, I wondered 'how' it was that he could be so strong and "resist" my taunting sexual advances on him? But I wanted to 'respect him' and I projected Uprightness in a man who was NOT that?

I was extremely naïve (or rather, maybe, I had been extraordinarily 'lucky' in coupling-partnerships before. I HONESTLY had NO CLUE that 'a man' could have 'a problem' with any part of sex.

I was raised among (let me say) 'victorian' type women who always discussed how men were animals, and all they wanted was sex all the time.

I remember how there was inside of me I was secretly dreaming like~~ yeah?, omg, just bring it ON!! (roflmao!!).

On that wedding night with 'saving it for marriage' ex2, he 'confessed' to me that he was actually impotent, and would quietly put myself and my two children (from 1st marriage) in an apartment in the region where I used to live. He'd support us, then quietly I could divorce.

I was shocked. --- Apparently, BEFORE he said 'I Do' he had done the research and was ready to implement it. And those sort of 'over the top' fear behaviors I had seen (and lovingly stayed strong with) on the wedding day before the ceremony, were of HIS DECEPTION....

I felt so 'stung'. I trusted him ALL the way the courting process. Gave him Honor. Such DECEIPT!!

While we were 'dating' it didn't appear that he had any kind of problem *ahem* (to me)... but he MADE it a problem afterwards in our relationship, in order to manipulate in the relationship.

He "played" the 'impotent man' game in order to 'manipulate' me. That was a 'sexual game' and treachery that I was NOT happy with.

I (with deep planning and strategy) refused to 'give in' whole hog to all that BS on how your supposed to treat and approach a man who can't get it up? Pure HOG-WASH BS!!! Had it been 'real'?, then I absolutely would have gone with whatever. But I 'perceived' and SAW THROUGH what 'this' was all about.

It was his NARCISSISM. His controlling-spirit. Not impotency. Seemed curious how he could *ahem* straighten out this problem (lol) when he saw I wasn't going to buy into it.

So things were okay for a while...

Then, he turned physically abusive, and one day approached for sex... which I LOVED. I was like yes!!!

But ~something started to go 'wrong' that time... and he 'raped' me instead. It was terrifying. And the GREATEST HURT?, was that he was using The Word of God to justify his abuse, telling me all those 'scriptures' written in some of the chapters written by Apostle Paul-- (if you are into the Christian Bible, then YOU know which ones they are).

Debby4....

It is important that you have a man who is 'complete'. Someone who will treat you like you're special every day of your life. Someone who wants to REALLY know you, and be able to please you.

I had two daughters. They grew-up IN Church, conservative. After I married ex2, felt trapped (I was his 'trophy'), and they were old enough, I sat them down and had a serious serious talk about whether or not to abstain.

I told them that if they were in a serious relationship with a man they were thinking they were going to really marry?, and they were in the engagement period after the ring) but BEFORE the marriage---, test him out.

I know that might sound 'wrong' perhaps to you? (And that's really up to you to decide?) It is good to abstain, but then too, you need to protect your WHOLE human life interest.

Sex is like the magical glue in a marriage. If he's not right, then you've got problems you didn't NEED to take upon yourself. Don't sell yourself short.... Life is Long, and marriage can be Heaven and Hell rolled up as one giant gift.

Sex is important for re-creating (babies), AND, it is an important part of your recreation life.... (play, sharing, uniting, being TRULY 'one' with one another emotionally, spiritually, physically).

Don't discount the physical side of the marriage. Physical is HUGE. Many little things can be worked out more easily if you two have that ability to release between the two of you. (Make-up sex can be great!)

So, {{hugs}} the call IS up to you, if you're going to conform to extremely conservative views 'perfectly' or not. Just make sure that YOU will know that your sexual health will be able to be satisfied.

Some may 'marry' because they don't want to 'lust' and burn....

Honey,? .... Get over that, because YOU might be marrying an abuser, or a deceiver.

Once you "pop" (climax) the excess-energy and get rid of that lusting 'sexual tension' then you may get to 'see' the real person that you're about to give up your whole life for. You just may have saved yourself a LOT of money (divorce and all that pain), and a painful painful life of having married 'the wrong one' JUST BECAUSE you held back from having the sex.

~~ If you "sin"...? (have sex) Then God is faithful and just to Forgive Your Sins, and reconcile you to Himself once more-- completely, 'just-as-though you had never 'sinned'.' You just have to forgive yourself... actually?, CHANGE the rules. Don't feel guilty for one single moment.

The greater-sin would BE your life of endless UNHappiness..... That would be true tragedy. Not the 'fulfilling' of expectations of man-made rules. God knew we were rule-breakers, and he made a way to 'fix' it. He KNOWS we are frail as humans, yet He Loves us Completely, and made a way of escape from all the guiltiness.

So ~~~ just (in a way) cut the religious bullcrap when it comes to your life. There IS wiggle room. GOD made that. MAN condemns, GOD forgives. And you need to forgive yourself..... completely, and often. Even every day of your life!

Speaking with a deep Mother's Heart here. A Mother who LOVES The Lord, Loves God with everything inside of her, and has BEEN through the pain, through the war trenches of 'real' life.

(I hope this hasn't been too shocking for you... Be at Peace, Dear One. HAVE a Happy Life. So Much Love.)

(music) Wedding Song (Paul Stookey, Peter Paul & Mary, 25th Anniv) [3:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrTfNTzAvYY

(music) Ready For Love (The India Arie, lyrics) [4:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moOXLgd519I

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posted January 31, 2016 01:12 AM            

If you are, please just ignore my response. It okay... Keep the songs if you want, but if you don't mind, please delete my last post, okay?

posted January 31, 2016 03:33 PM            

And the Universe placed a double-emphasis on it too, since it was a dp (double-post).

Some day, it might be a reference for you (or others)-- might be something many can benefit from.

posted January 31, 2016 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Hi Debby .... ^ On the other hand, it's okay with me if you keep my post, and the music, without need to delete it.

And the Universe placed a double-emphasis on it too, since it was a dp (double-post).

Some day, it might be a reference for you (or others)-- might be something many can benefit from.

I wish you Joy and much Happiness. I wish you Love.

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Ok! I was going to save it for reference! I'm am about to turn 20. ^-^ Thank you very much for your words of wisdom. c: Much love back at you!

posted February 14, 2016 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
I feel that teeth are truths that need to be spoken. Something was stopping you and you have to release it (the bra is this case) for the truth to come out. For me, the dentist represents someone who helps push you to speak your truths.

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I thought I replied to you! O: Sorry. D: