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MoonMystic
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posted November 28, 2020 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Removed -
as someone dissected it to the bone.


Thank you Ayelet, you were extremely helpful.

Updates later showed my true understanding came afterwards with new messages. I'm removing this as to not be studied with an 'outsider look into my subconscious ir the messages sent to me from beyond this realm.

The particular case of the unknown incoming new ones (neighbors) l did grow. My dreams pointed as to details and I'm still uncovering that portion.

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posted November 29, 2020 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Hi! ..working on it. ..)

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posted November 29, 2020 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MoonMystic,
Quite a peculiar dream, I'd say. The question is, is it necessarily related to whoever is going to move near you. It could be, but then, it might also be you worrying. Perhaps you might find out which is which by trying to summon a clarifying dream before going to sleep. I would usually follow the advice of dreams, but sometimes fear can play a part, and besides that the dream you have described did not give you, at least how it sounded to me, any guide as what to do next. I would guess that a dream with the right kind of information for you would not leave you "freaking out" about its content, but rather would come with a definite advice. So I would suggest you taking that into account and not give in to fear.

Waiting to hear how things work out for you.

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posted November 29, 2020 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With reading the whole post,
I can see that in a sense, you are also asking us if this is a premonition.. (as well as if it's worry), concerning the empty property in your backyard about to be sold or rented.
You fear an unsavory character? Someone up to no good? That this had been the previous pattern of that property owner?

You also mentioned possibility of worry-- out of a nervousness, based on your past experiences.

///
I had a wakeup movie in my closed eyes just before awaking.
. .
A bit of background before I describe this because this could be my own 'inner mind' (consciousness) that created the dream*.
Unless I had unknowingly astral traveled during this.
The place directly behind us is vacant. It's ready for a new resident. I've had instincts on this place and not comfortable ones. Relating to ones who I have known that do buy properties.
.
ok fast fwd ~ awoke to the tailend of a movie in my mind as a dream or me 'seeing' via A.travels. I've done them before but not like this. My 3rd eye has been extremely active these days - so maybe I can view more personal pov now?
.So what I saw was a male figure with a nap sick take his contents out of his bag, on the patio (across from where I shower).
He sat as though to meditate but began using his incense and started using a mirror. As to see, like spies would do or intending some spell work. 'smoke n mirrors'. So I awoke, knowing, as if lucid, this was me there seeing it and not asleep.
Could it be a worry or my instincts showing me to be vigilant?
Thank you for any ideas of this mysterious puzzle.
///

Researched "smoke and mirrors"
definition from Cambridge dictionary--
"an explanation or description that is not true,
or not complete,
and is used to 'hide the truth' about a situation"

In a way? --
You do not 'know' all the 'present' facts yet. What you have is 'past' history with that property and the manager's patterns.

For fun ? --
I looked up the position for asteroid pertaining to 'Good Neighbor', good citizenship.
. .
Transiting asteroid "Mr Rogers"
song, Won't you be my Neighbor ,
is transiting IN the astro-house belonging to your neighborhood!!
H3-- the 3rd House
represents your neighborhood'.
tr 26858 Misterrogers Pisces 22.23' -- in your 3rd.
. .
(for fun)
. .
Let's hope it's a Friendly Calm and Peaceful "Future" neighbor that comes to live there~~ even a good and positive 'spiritual' one?

(humor)
But oops
.. Pisces?!!
on the negative,
they could be a 'drug addict'??--
uses the knapsack mirror-pieces for snorting lines,
and smokes weed?
ohhhh noooooooo LOL
!! CANCEL CANCEL !!
Well...
maybe he'll STILL be friendly, 'mellow', and cause no problems for the two of you? *heart*
. .
(more humor)
Hey! A Positive alternative thought--
He had a knapsack with {spiritually blessed} INCENSE in it!!
He was getting ready to meditate?
Aw heck!, that's just GOTTA be a good omen.
Your own personal "prayers" (incense) are being answered in the Positive?
{j/k}
(I don't 'really' know... )

Try not to worry too much about it.

Full Moon in Gemini 8-9
could be making you a bit jittery?

Believe for the BEST Outcomes.

===================================

THE DREAM
I spaced the keywords on different lines.


quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:

So what I saw was a

* male figure with a knapsack
* take his contents out of his bag,
* on the patio
* (across from where I shower).

He sat as though to meditate but
* began using his incense and
* started using a mirror.

As to see,
like spies would do or
intending some spell work.
'smoke n mirrors'.


He uses the 'mirror' .. in the past.

I saw you mention in various posts--
.. that you "found your Purpose"
.. you have psychic abilities and talents
.. (see that) you successfully give Tarot Readings (LL)
.. you have delved into dark art practices, witchcraft
.. you have had 'spirituality' interests
.. you recently took counseling for Shadow Work (on self)


I want to say again, how courageous you are to have taken Shadow Work sessions. That experience can be pretty rough-- especially when you have had an abusive childhood.

Taking part in that has stirred your unconscious mind (dreams). Side-effects. You will 'continue' to be sifting through the contents/materials of your mind-- in night dreams and day-matters, for a long while. Can lead to *burps* of self-condemnation, even some paranoia for a while. Please take excellent care of your self.


More SYMBOLOGY and omens
Random order.
Note: ALL interpretations given in this post are extracted compilations of info found on at least a dozen different websites.
continued..

* Patio; patio space --
(In real world: expect visitors.)
There is an openness about yourself, and things you say.
Feeling you can say/do whatever you want.
. .
Can also signify "your business enterprise" if you wish one.
(This was how they interpreted in an article.)
Think of the patio as being a 'store-front.' Part of you has been drawing visibility to yourself, publicly.
You have a 'space' for setting up whatever you want.
This can have a positive meaning, in a dream.

* Shower; the showering-room
An awareness of your 'spiritual well-being'.
Cleansing of the 'inner-self'.
Doing an assessment of your self.
Possible opportunity to 'make amends' in a relationship.
Also indicates helping others make important decisions in their life.

* Knapsack aka nap sack = Responsibilities
Events of the past.
Things that (could) weigh you down;
{reflect on the objects inside}
Decisions, and responsibilities.
Represent the 'innermost desires' of the knapsack-owner.

* Incense = prayers
Symbolizes your wishes and hopes becoming true.
Spiritual Learning.
(pos) = Good friends and encouraging future prospects.

* Mirrors
It is now 'time' for some personal reflection.
Time to take a hard look at self.

* Smoke + Mirror
Conceals the truth;
Creating an illusion of something not-entirely accurate.
Indication to take a "second look" at a situation,
or to "look at it" from a different perspective.
In some cultures, indicates a death in the family.
. .
Wondering about.. wanting to make a Dream a reality.
. .
Distraction;
.. something's a distraction.

/end

*~
One of the immediate thoughts I had while reading and imagining your dream, was of a story I heard about Edgar Cayce. (One of the last paragraphs here, below).

{*laughing* Since we have E.Cayce-freaks reading here-- *grin*-- I thought I'd throw these in. Very relevant.}

Your dream, in your words --
"He sat as-though-to meditate but began using his incense, and started using a mirror."

(Aside - on one hand seems to 'sound' as though you're saying the man-in-the-dream was "faking" (or putting-on the front) of spirituality? You expressed concern... you had the hunch... that he was secretly doing witchcraft & casting dark 'evil' spells. He was instead-perhaps, a practitioner of dark 'cult' energies-- Involved with 'Spies' - "conspiracy theories?")

*cautions*
Maybe take a look at 'who' you've been following recently, or, that you are being 'influenced by' energy wise?
Your subconscious MAY be picking-up that *they* are not what you 'think' them to be. They may be involved with something darker than you'd want. Some pose themselves certain ways, to attract people to themselves, and they are NOT what they seem.
(Be very careful to screen persons you are getting involved with, at this time. -- Dreaming of this, might be warning bells from your guiding angels?)

*~ Shifting this ~*

Stopping to "reframe" this a bit?
(Positive)
I'm going to use HUMOR--
and use that story to relate to the man (as a seeker, as 'you'/me, and other ordinary spiritual-seekers growing and developing on their sacred journey, together with others.

Possessing a knapsack with all the various TOOLS of the spiritual-trade, involved in the process of setting it out, placing things all around, arranging items carefully, sitting-down and settling-in one's energies-- all in the process of "getting ready" to "do" some good inner work.

AND THEN... aha, and oh noooo...
In the "doing" of all of that prepping, we become distracted from the ACTUAL goal of "meditating".

"distraction" ..
While attempting some self-discipline.
sometimes when we set a meditation time, and "try" to settle-in to DO it--
(without realizing)--
we get soooo involved in the 'process' as to 'complicate' the session.
In order to 'meditate,' many can find themselves being hooked into the use of props.
"Spirituality AIDS," use of tools for an enhancing experience.
Soon, fidgeting can ensue.
Needing the use of 'gadgets' can become a distraction from Meeting the Goal of actually doing the meditation or practice?!

At the end of session time, there can have been SOOO much fidgety-distraction, that afterwards, there may be the inner-sense of seeming to have *faked* the meditation for that day (when you really ~DID try!).
And for that one session-- for all the fidgets and gadgets-- that sometimes are thought and felt to be needed, in order to make that 'Connection' to Core, can leave a drifty~sense of having just-missed one's opportunity of TRUE-time with *The Divine-within*.

It happens!!!
Oh yes.. (speaking from personal experience!)

Got Meditation Lice?
Elsie Sechrist, a (German) Cayce Meditation teacher (passed away years ago). Went to her conferences. I remember she used to call the creepy~crawly sensations on top of your skin (when attempting to settle the body), the "side-effects" of "meditation lice"!!
Audience would laugh out loud.
{It's the body's nerve-system letting go energy, to calm down.}

So anyways,
people can distract themselves--
Getting the incense going,
Selecting the correct rocks/gem energies, Placing these in proper energy-positions
. .
Then.. eww, .. this clothing isn't right, and
need to go change your top-- switch to cotton, and not nylon?
More enhancers...
Need to get the right background music/tones,
lights,
candles, etc etc .
. .
You finally settle-in,
then OOPS--- the window isn't right,
then omg--- you forgot to set your letter out to mail
.. you remember that it's close to the time when the postal-carrier comes, and you NEEDED that letter mailed-- etc etc
. .
fidget fidget ..
Got back to it.
Clean? omg, look at the DUST in that corner!!
*jawdrop*.. gotta dust??? etc etc.


Edgar Cayce {one of the greatest psychics)
was approached by a small group of people one day. They collectively asked him to 'teach them' HOW to "be psychic."
. .
His response was that they needed to fortify their inner-spiritual life first!!
Being a psychic follows having a good Connection 'in the Spirit.'

_________

As you go deeper into your Tarot (business), it's good to be mindful that these people asking you questions, are receiving from you-- 'through' the filter of your own mind, knowledge, wisdom, quality of character, and the strength of your intuitive abilities.

To keep your intuitive and spiritual inner self strong, it's vital that you *shower* {E.C.; your spiritual practices} -- so that you keep your 'channel' clear and 'clean' on the inside, in order to increase 'accuracy'.

In that world-- folks are alerted (by some readings-websites) not to make "life-altering" serious decisions solely based-upon the 'flip of a card'---?
But you know they will?
Coz people DO that.
With 'consequences.'

Build-up your INNER spiritual self, and stay clear. Choose the HIGHEST of Spiritual Ideals you can form.

Some darker-energy involvements can (unknowingly) cause 'clingers' that attach to the energy field. Negative entities and low as-yet uncatalyzed thought-forms-- can also have an affect on mental health.

Stay In The Light
Stay Beautiful

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posted November 29, 2020 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 29, 2020 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope it works out with the devil and dark entities. You have ways to protect.

(There are two or more informative threads on that in Health and Healing forum.)
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Found it! --
"Did someone put a black magic spell on me?"
Luckystar25, on Nov 6, 2017
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003543.html
(includes links to info on protective gems)
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Eclipse starts in 5 1/2 hours. Will be more visible in your location. Hope it brings good things.

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posted November 29, 2020 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 30, 2020 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MoonMystic,
You said there were fires that made the wildlife go away. Do you connect these fires with the smoke from the dream?

I think about it now, it could be a male figure who is your mirror, but a blurred mirror. The smoke makes your image less accurate, more "mystic" perhaps. Maybe it has something to do with someone you knew, or are about to know.

The dark entity blocking the reading - is that common? Why should it choose to do so? Do you reckon this entity is connected with the sitter, and not with you? I wonder what precaution you're going to take, by being more careful in your future readings.

The key to understanding your dream, I think, is through your own emotion. If you would have awakened peaceful from this dream, it had a different meaning than you feeling preoccupied with it. It might also show your worries both concerning the vacant place and about magical/spiritual work. Perhaps the unknown could be scary sometimes, whether it is a dark entity or your yet unknown new neighbor.

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posted November 30, 2020 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ayelet,

The wildfires weren't apparent while this *dream occured.
Yet there was incense or my accepting it as such, he could have been smoking marijuana maybe even.

 It could have been AT me, true too. (directed to and not from the reading, I'll explain  below)
.
Yes dark spells can create blocks and or entities can insert themselves to ward off viewing, speaking to particular ones.
Similar to making a phone call and getting a block call message. It's  like a road block too. or websites "access denied".
This was never experienced by me before, however I am still learning a lot.
.
I listened to a reader last night (new one to me) who read my 3 signs.2 in which, most pronounced ~ all matched. She said that my anscestry line was reaching out in my dream world. Not to fear them. Similar to how the particular cultures have protection dragons, these anscesters may seem frightening if I (the tarot sitter, msg reciever) had observed them.
Or like Gargoyles once were proctor beings to bring fear to anyone wishing harm.  I am now feeling that I perhaps indeed saw my protection Spirit. I have native American  ( on both sides, 3 minimum  tribes)

This very well did fit her expression of these 'dream elders'. Plus he wore a huge poncho. I think I 'felt under attack' and doubted my safety  and that dream was to show me I'm not alone but to remember that the Spirit world is delicate. 
 I prayed to my Ancestral lines last night and awoke to drumming. I feel that was clarification to 'not feel' threatened.

.

Yes, there's a guy from my past that I have concern over but my Ones watching over, I believe always protect me. I'm feeling better. That lady very much ceased my worries.
 I'll  continue protection.  I do use protection spells, just NO spell magic(k) against/for things ego driven.
Spiritual mattters for my (family) spiritual well being only.

My safety net while reading, I pray, use my white light, incense and guarding gems. As well the quartz.
It was my misunderstanding and many others .. plus my swords lately were going above the Cups. They (thoughts) out balanced by emorion a bit, I'm working to come away from 'thoughts'.  There was a lot outside myself that put me into overthinking as well .. (Hubby +I did some heart2heart talking), I've worked that out, so I can lay down those swords. My guides and instincts should all be aligned  again in a few days.  Just looking for quiet time and peaceful rhythms.

I'm  taking a breather now, meditating and doing a lot of prayers and sage-ing. I'm  ok.

Thank you so much  Ayelet.

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posted November 30, 2020 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome MoonMystic I'm glad your dream was resolved in the best way possible! It sure feels good to be protected.

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posted December 10, 2020 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ayelet


Update~
I recieved some new DLs and the mountain lion came. I've recieved messages and following strong energy coming thru my crown chakra due to celestial events I presume. (CME and Schumann Resonance) I might be a medium, due to the sensory perception) This isn't certain but my boys (twin fur babes) have consistently been seeing the same 'others' that I see/feel. Which does not leave me to nullify anything I'm experiencing. My body recieve info as well. My boys are intrigued with my pineal g location. I can't shut this off so I seeking stronger grounding tools. Do you know if Obsidian stronger than tourmaline? Nothing is nefarious, these are gentle souls/spirits I'm just a light fireflies (Spirits) see me on and aware so I attract them. My g grandmother (native A ~ told me as a small child, something was going to happen one day. she eluded to this but my young mind wouldn't comprehend her.


[Added] I thought I placed my comment re my eyes 'kaleidoscopes' when shut -here. Maybe it was with Chanterelle on the other thread.

(around 12:30ish pst on 12/11) I had music quit over-the-air radio almost an hour and the first words just now came out "with kaleidoscope eyes" oh my .. ok
here's the song http://youtu.be/mgNYK96lQOg

confirmations everywhere.


My earlier response to Chanterelle, http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003618.html

I'll respond to both of you lovely angels here after my head stops spinning again. I need to go back to the water and calming release.

.. ..

I'm going to be off LL awhile, no Tarot reading. Don't want to mix my energies incoming, with those I read for. Or my mind may not focus well. The upoming 14th & 21st are going to effect me I feel. I'll come by here for any, if hopefully shared (strong) grounding advice. Thank you.

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Outside, barefoot, lots. (I’m a big fan of just being with the elements in general — fire, running water). If you feel like you need obsidian, bump on that gemstone exchange thread. Be well!

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posted December 10, 2020 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds fascinating, MoonMystic. If you are more drawn to the Obsidian than to the Tourmaline, than that is the gem you may want. I am not really an expert to say which is stronger, but my OPINION is that it's not about which is the strongest objectively, but which is the right stone for YOU, what it is that you personally need. It might be a black gem like Tourmaline or Obsidian, or purple Sugilite (which is protective, though I understand protection might not be the issue) or whatever you may find works with your energies in the best way.

Good luck in your newfound psychic and spiritual path!

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posted January 28, 2021 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pls lock this thread.
thank you.

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