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Topic: Historical Facts Hitler & Hussein Share
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1scorp unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 11:49 AM
Leo: My firm opinion is posted on another thread (how will we know) I didn't repost as it is a little long.IP: Logged |
Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 06:44 PM
Recently I've been taught an explanation for this doctrine & I'd like to share it: (I first posted this in another thread but wanted to share w/ as many as possible, maybe spread a little hope) Fukiyama (plagiarizer of Hegel), "It is the end of history, The battle of the ideologies is over. Liberal Democracy has won over communism(Cold War) & fascism(WWII)" Nations, being Asian, Western or Eastern European, or North or South American (& even Africa once they stabilize) have all started to liberalize their economies & governments in hopes of interconnecting the world & globalizing, which would hopefully raise the bar for standard of living in all third world countries (still theory & still debatable, but so far the theory is working). Now Rumsfield, probably the staunchest conservative in the government has expressed this ideal since the 80s to liberalize gov'ts when the opportunity presents itself. Right now they are seeing an opportunity to have this dream realized & possibility the reverse of the "domino theory" of the Cold War will occur. Instead of one democratic gov't falling causing more to fall, one more liberal democratic government rises & then more follow. Liberalization includes the advocation of a state governed by the people, a gov't elected by the people, & an economy of free trade without government actors that exploit their country's natural resources for their own gain. Essentially liberalize control over economy which spreads the wealth of a country's natural resources among the people. What Rumsfield, Bush, & the Western gov'ts are genuinely attempted to do is integrate the world as one liberlized democracy & economy where all countries are interconnected & eventually the sovereignty of the "nation-state" (even the USA) yields the a higher int'l authority following the rules of economic prosperity for example: (Which I'll post later) Destruction of Islamic fundamentalists, War on terrorism, search for oil, disarmament of Iraq, are all faulty reasons to advocate the one greater ideal, that has quite a vision for the future. But one of positivity & a collective prosperity for the world. I'm sure there are a million & a half arguments to demonize the US & our gov'ts & their political actors which would make this idea seem futile. But I just wanted to present this vision of the future so people may at least know of it & consider it. I mean THERE IS a h*e*ll of a lot the governments of the world do not tell the people of the world what their true goals are, they are REALLY EDUCATED & STUDIED in these matters & it wouldn't be too bad to... just for a moment... Consider maybe they do have a plan for the future & these pithy events are simply stepping stones to its realization??? IP: Logged |
Carlo unregistered
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posted March 22, 2003 11:48 AM
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Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted March 22, 2003 12:46 PM
May the Goddess help us all.IP: Logged |
proxieme unregistered
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posted March 23, 2003 11:30 PM
LL - There have been very many grand plans formulated for the world in our human history by those who have been "really educated and studied"... how many designs can you say have gone off according to the best aims? How many have not come at the cost of a foundation of corpses and lies? I know of the vision of the future which you have presented - and it is a noble one, but it will not be gotten by the means we now see being employed. Death only breeds more murderers and broods vendettas; war never brings peace - it may only act to place a comma in the great history of War and Violence to which humanity has so far been subject. IP: Logged |
Jaqueline unregistered
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posted March 25, 2003 10:30 PM
A little bit late ...but thanks Harpyr... Love Jakie
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trippysht unregistered
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posted March 26, 2003 11:28 AM
oooooh interesting carlo!IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2006 05:16 PM
bump.. this is actually an interesting thread. At one time Bush was being compared to Hitler (by Harpyr- who I believe still believes they are twins) no one got mental over asking people to prove statements with facts...Funny how things digressed. IP: Logged |
Petron unregistered
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posted November 15, 2006 05:53 PM
quote: I wouldn't even think of comparing Clinton to Hitler and both were ego maniacs.--pidaua
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Bear the Leo Newflake Posts: 8 From: Germany Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2006 05:58 PM
Petron,If your going to qoute something try getting everything in context. This is the full thing. Qoute 'Bush and Hitler: one in the same? I think not. I wouldn't even think of comparing Clinton to Hitler and both were ego maniacs.' Thanks Bear IP: Logged |
Petron unregistered
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posted November 15, 2006 06:02 PM
i was only quoting the punchline.....why would i quote the extraneous stuff? you dont find it hilarious that pid says she wouldnt think of comparing clinton to hitler, and then in the same sentence she does just that?
pid you're a master of comedy!! **and bear, youre trying too hard, find something substantial to whine about......
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pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2006 06:11 PM
petron, I was talking about being ego-driven. If someone is going to be more like a narcissist it would be Clinton. But to compare him to Hitler as a whole would be insipid, much like your sense of humor. Maybe you could read the entire thread instead of just what I said for a change. IP: Logged |
Petron unregistered
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posted November 15, 2006 06:14 PM
i did read this whole thread before i posted.....geez, sorry guys...... IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2006 06:21 PM
Don't be sorry... blame Mercury retrograde. Hell, my work phone has been spazzing out all week long.. I answer it and it hangs up on people LOL..Maybe that is a good thing IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 856 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2006 06:49 PM
Lordy I miss Lost Leo & his shennanigans
------------------ ~ What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
Petron unregistered
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posted November 15, 2006 10:35 PM
thats not merc retrograde pid....thats me getting all nervous and hanging up..... IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2006 11:28 AM
Ahh... petron... I can't see you being the nervous type You seem quite charming in your weird sort of way LOL - then again, I have always had a soft spot for Virgo's or those with strong Virgo placements IP: Logged |