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N_wEvil
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posted August 02, 2003 02:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.theinquirer.org/?article=10814

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The US is putting extreme pressure on European airlines to turn over their passenger data

Sorry, but thats over the line - Euro passenger data is under european law and none of your ******* business.

Just thought you might like to know how far your moronic paranoid govornment is going

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LoonyFish
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posted August 02, 2003 04:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings wEvil!

We have only just begun to see the depths this will go!
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TRAVEL/07/31/bi.security.screening.reut/index.html

At least they changed this cute little regulation, somewhat. They can't keep the information on us for 50 years, as originally planned!
Face it, there is no such thing as PRIVACY, anymore.

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StarLover33
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posted August 02, 2003 10:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is terrible, this I.D thing is getting really harsh, just 2 weeks ago I had to board a plane, and go through the same crap. It's a ploy to keep us well trapped inside the system. But where did freedom go?

If only there was a way to travel without having to deal with this. But what could that be?

-StarLover

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jwhop
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posted August 02, 2003 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good God, give it a rest already. Any of you who believe the US Government doesn't have a right to know exactly who is entering the United States from other nations by air or any other means have options. Best option: Stay the hell out of the United States and about 70% of us here would give you a for exercising that option.

If I were you, I'd dismiss any notion that guests make the rules for entry here.
Neither the EU, the UN or any other outside organization sets American Security Policy and some of us wonder why you are meddling in something that is absolutely none of your business.

For those of you who live here and object to common sense rules to protect US citizens from 9/11 type attacks, you have options too.
You can stay home or make use of the best highway system in the world. Use of the domestic Air Transportation System is voluntary.

jwhop

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N_wEvil
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posted August 02, 2003 03:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont have a problem with the US snooping on traffic going into the US...

I DO have a problem with the US snooping about traffic thats got bugger all to do with it. No, you don't have a right to stamp all over the laws MY country put up because of OUR social situation - it got nothing to do with you unless the flights going to the US so stay the hell outta my files. or else.

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jwhop
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posted August 02, 2003 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"OR ELSE WHAT" N_wEvil?

Which files do you consider to be yours? Or let me put it another way. What the hell are you talking about?

Also, I didn't see anything in the piece you linked to indicate the US wants passenger lists of flights from London to Berlin or any other European departure point to any European destination or any other non American destination.

SO, what's your beef with US passenger screening?

jwhop

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BugginOut6106
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posted August 03, 2003 03:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh, I believe the visitors of this country made the rules. what is your ancestry? what if they didn't come to North America and had no opportunity. Anyone coming to the US to escape and prioritize happiness is a fundamental freedom.

Keeping diverse folks out creates attitudes,15 radical fundamentalists claimed a holy war. Closing and hampering borders creates more resistance to this joke of a melting pot we got goin on. Bushies P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act is a danger to our civil liberties . Beware of the elite few,they RULE the world.

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N_wEvil
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posted August 03, 2003 11:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my beef with US passenger screening is screening passengers that aren't even travelling to the US

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jwhop
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posted August 03, 2003 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ipso Facto

If foreign nationals are in the US, they "have traveled" to the US. Further, if foreign nationals are on a flight scheduled to land in the United States, they "are traveling" to the US.


BugginOut

This new regulation is intended to screen out those having ties to terrorist organizations to prevent them from hijacking an International flight bound for the United States or having arrived in the US, to prevent them melting into the general population by denying them access to those flight destined to land in the United States.

This new regulation DOES NOT speak to legal immigration to the United States.

You are sadly mistaken if you believe we need to give any weight to the beliefs of Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists whose basic position is that those who do not embrace their religion can be killed with impunity.

Facts check BugginOut. There were 19 terrorist hijackers not 15. They are each with their 72 virgins in Paradise and we have sent many more to join them. In fact we are doing all possible to see the rest of them receive their just reward for the murder of innocent civilians.

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N_wEvil
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posted August 03, 2003 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I dont have a problem with the US snooping on traffic going into the US...

buh.

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jwhop
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posted August 03, 2003 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have no problem with snooping on air passengers going into the US?

Since the new Travel Security Administration regulation speaks to passenger screening for International Flights inbound to the United States, what's your beef then.

What was the purpose in starting this thread?
Perhaps the purpose was simple. Another personal attack on the President of the United States?

"Just thought you might like to know how far your moronic paranoid govornment is going"

Perhaps it's time for a factual critique of the European Union and it's wannabe power brokers. Tell me N_wEvil, how do you feel about forced (compulsory) abortion?

jwhop

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N_wEvil
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posted August 03, 2003 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usually with rubber gloves and a bucket

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Oxychick
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posted August 03, 2003 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Usually with rubber gloves and a bucket

I really found that comment/supposed joke to be in poor taste.

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N_wEvil
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posted August 03, 2003 05:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and your opinion is significant because... ?

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Oxychick
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posted August 03, 2003 05:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and your opinion is significant because... ?


for the very same reasons your opinions matter.

Because we all choose to be here and because this is a public forum. And because I found that comment to be extremely insensitive to a very sensitive issue. I just think people should think before they speak, rather than just react to win an argument.

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N_wEvil
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posted August 03, 2003 05:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry, but if someone rubbishes what i feel to be a serious issue i'll do the same back.

actually, what am i on about - there's no reason i should ever say sorry to you in particular

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Oxychick
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posted August 03, 2003 05:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes, no one is asking for an apology...and I'm not sure why you would think that. Abortion is something I have seen too many of my friends completely suffer through. It's not pretty. Let's please stick to the issues at hand. If you have somehting to say to me about anything other than the topics here in G.U., I'd appreciate you exercising tact and respect enough to do so privately.

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Randall
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posted August 03, 2003 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Andy, I'm not sure what your issue is with Oxy, and I really don't care to know, but she is the Moderator here, and your defiant behavior is causing a bit too much disruption in this Forum.

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