posted February 09, 2004 03:43 PM            

To quote that article-

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"The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after," says Bamford

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posted February 09, 2004 04:11 PM            

We have gone from the hypocracy of a candidate, to Bush should have done this and that during 9-11, to "Hey Kerry doesn't take money from special interest groups" to 'Well, okay he does, but at least it's not illegal like Bush / Cheney" although no evidence supports it. LOL....

Bush's record for Campaign contributions are as follows:

Agribusiness $1,885,473
Communic/Electronics $2,358,450
Construction $3,369,036
Defense $232,488
Energy/Nat Resource $1,844,050
Finance/Insur/RealEst $15,678,273
Health $3,506,167
Lawyers & Lobbyists $6,331,079
Transportation $1,979,800
Misc Business $8,675,321
Labor $6,250
Ideology/Single-Issue $382,255
Other $9,247,643

Top Contributors:

Merrill Lynch
$432,104

PricewaterhouseCoopers
$334,550

UBS Americas
$327,850

MBNA Corp
$296,250

Goldman Sachs
$270,475

Credit Suisse First Boston
$236,250

Lehman Brothers
$229,496

Bear Stearns
$211,775

Blank Rome LLP
$206,650

Ernst & Young
$187,355

Microsoft Corp
$162,450

Union Pacific Corp
$160,500

Deloitte & Touche
$159,025

Haynes & Boone
$157,650

Winston & Strawn
$156,250

Southern Co
$156,197

Morgan Stanley
$155,000

Citigroup Inc
$154,115

Ameriquest Capital
$150,800

SBC Communications
$150,750

98% of Bush contributions are from Individual donations, 2% are from PAC's. Let's not forget, if you want to tie Bush to Enron, you will also have to tie Clinton and many other democrats.

$1.1 Million was donated by people associated with Enron for the year 2000. 98% of that went to Republicans or the Republican party.

In 2000 the Association for Trial lawyers donated $4.0 Million through individual members 89% went to the democrat party to keep the frivolous lawsuits going (like suing McDonalds because someone is too fat).

The top 10 donors are:

1) The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) Donating $34 Million since 1990. In 2000 99% of donations went to the Democrat party.

2) The National Association of Realtors: Donated $23 Million split about evenly between Dems and Repubs

3) National Education Association (NEA) teachers union: $23 Million since 1990 and 90% to the Democrat party

4) The Association of Trial Lawyers of America (ATLA): Donated $22 Million since 1990 and 90% to the Democrat party

5) The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) is an AFL-CIO-affiliated labor union: Donated $20.5 Million since 1990 and 94% to the Democrat party

6) The Carpenters & Joiners Union: Donated $20.2 Million since 1990 and 90% went to the Democrat party.

7) International Brotherhood of Teamsters: Donated $20.2 Million since 1990 and 88% went to the Dems

8) Philip Morris: Donated $20.1 Million since 1990 and 75% went to the Republican party.

9) The Laborers International Union of North America: Donated $19.9 Million since 1990 and 91% went to the Democrat party.

10) The American Medical Association: Donated $19.9 Million since 1990 and 59% went to the Republican party.

So breaking down the top 10 donors:

The Democrats received: $167.70 since 1990

The Republicans received: $47.36 since 1990

For the top soft money contributions:

1) Saban, Haim & Cheryl
Saban Capital Group
Los Angeles, CA
$9,376,000
100% to Democrat party

2) Eychaner, Fred
Newsweb Corp
Chicago, IL
$7,428,500
100% Dem

3) Bing, Stephen L.
Shangri-La Entertainment
Los Angeles, CA
$6,741,000
100% to Democrat party

4) Kirsch, Steve T. & Michele
Propel
Los Altos Hills, CA
$3,380,286
100% to Dem party

5) Schwartz, Bernard L. & Irene
Loral Spacecom
New York, NY
$2,307,450
99% to Dem party

6) Corzine, Jon S. & Joanne D.
U.S. Senate
Summit, NJ
$2,116,382
98% to Dem party

7) Simon, Melvin & Bren
Simon Property Group
Indianapolis, IN
$2,029,500
100% to Dem party

8) Angelos, Peter G. & Georgia K.
Angelos Law Offices/Baltimore Orioles
Baltimore, MD
$1,861,500
99% to Dem party

9) O'Quinn, John M.
O'Quinn & Laminack
Houston, TX
$1,827,500
100% to Dem party

Now we're hitting Republican territory:
10) Arnall, Roland E. & Dawn
Ameriquest Capital
Orange, CA
$1,535,500
35% to Dem
65% to Republican

Ooops, now we're back to Dem again.

11) Abraham, S. Daniel & Ewa
Center for Middle East Peace/Econ Coop
West Palm Beach, FL
$1,479,000
100% to Dem party

For more information log onto:
www.opensecrets.org

There is sooooo much more information about donations and candidates. Have your fill, I am about to pop from all the info. LOL

posted February 09, 2004 04:15 PM            

No, my mind is not closed - I just know a bit how law enforcement and the government works. I also know that there are too many consipiracy theorists out there that really want to just promote anarchy. What evidence would I need? A heck of a lot more than self serving journalists that want to start panic. Panic sells, it always has and I won't feed into that.

posted February 10, 2004 12:14 PM              

Pidaua
i never said "Kerry doesnt take money from special interest groups"
and i was also supporting bush about seeing the first plane burning in the wtc,he would have seen the press reports when no one was sure yet if it was an accident or terrorist attack...(he didnt seem very concerned though)
YOU seem to want ME to rationalize what bush jr SHOULD have done, i'm only saying "i dont know, how about ANYTHING"??
as far as enron goes,im tired of typing the battle hymn of the republicans.... "da doo doo doo..I was out of the loop... da da da da "
and are you saying that those WESTAR MEMOS arent EVIDENCE?? LOL!!( paying Tom Delay to write SEC oversight legislation so westar execs could embezzle tens of millions$$(even after enron!!))LOL!!
apparently the courts consider them evidence in their ongoing investigations...LOL
http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/2003/12/15/daily19.html

i've been saying all along that both democrats and republicans are in on it together at the upper levels...so i am more than happy to "implicate" anyone....
in an earlier post i even implicated Kerry...
in 1992 when ross perot ran for president he won like 20% of the entire vote...yet he didnt get a single electoral vote
so the electoral college pretty much guarantees that the president must be from THE democratic party or THE republican party.
so if you want your vote to count unfortunately you must pick one of the two candidates offered by our government.

posted February 11, 2004 10:29 AM            

What is the point? Yes, it is true that the influential politicans were Good ol Boys from the Johnson and Carter administrations. We see ties to the CIA, Georgia dems and Mid East terrorists (well soon to be terrorists).

The CIA failed to stop certain mergers based on the credible reputations of Clifford, Symington and their lawyers concerning the BCCI and CCAH.

Okay, so what am I supposed to offer? I said I know how law enforcement and government works. Yes, that is true, they keep things close to the vest and the public is not privvy to many details. What is wrong with that? That is how ingestigations are screwed up.

The only thing I see with your little example is how Kerry, one again, flip flopped. One minute he is pro-war - then against, states on record he wants to get out Saddam, then denies it. LOL....

You keep falling back on the "Hey, Bush helped out his friends....' Yeah, so do ALL the government wanks, politicians, business-people, etc... If you had a lead on a job and new your friend was qualified, would you put in a good word for them? Of course.

Now as far as military record, give me a damn break. Don't start saying you support people like Kerry over Bush because he served - because there was a former president that didn't serve and still lead the country with a bunch of wide eyed innocents believing his lies.

At the time Bush was in the Guard, Kerry was protesting the war. The guy flip flops. At least you know what Bush stands for on issues. People may not like it, but he doesn't go from "Well, I think Saddam is bad and we need to throw him out" to "Well, war is bad and we should leave him in".

posted February 12, 2004 11:01 AM              

BCCI quotes....

"even when the CIA knew that BCCI was as an institution a fundamentally corrupt criminal enterprise, it used both BCCI and First American, BCCI's secretly held U.S. subsidiary, for CIA operations. In the latter case, some First American officials actually knew of this use.(100) "
The CIA did not tell the Federal Reserve that Adham and Khalil were foreign intelligence liaisons of the United States, nor did it advise the Federal Reserve that both Adham and a third FGB shareholder, Faisal al-Fulaij, had been the subject of a Securities and Exchange Commission probe in connection with violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act by Boeing and Lockheed for arms sales to Saudi Arabia.(11)

"every major CIA user that might be interested in the information received it, except for the two agencies which would have had a statutory responsibility to begin investigations in response -- the Federal Reserve and the Justice Department"

"As Robert Mueller III, the Assistant Attorney General at the Justice Department now in charge of the BCCI investigation, testified in October, 1991: BCCI was not an ordinary bank....Its officers were sophisticated international bankers whose apparent objective was to keep their affairs secret, to commit fraud on a massive scale, and to avoid detection...."

so Robert Mueller was out of the loop then because the cia didnt inform the justice dept of bcci's criminality....but now he's appointed HEAD OF THE FBI??
http://www.fbi.gov/libref/directors/mueller.htm

hmmmm....no mention of bcci by name, you'd think those cases he "investigated" were all different ones .....lol

i dont know how accurate this article is
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1111/1797_300/59086099/p1/article.jhtml?term=

i see LOTS of HIGHLY connected republicans and ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS in the bcci affair who were also in the iran/contra affair......i suppose bush sr was just sitting around "out of the loop" after consecutively holding the top three positions in the the cia (head of cia then vp then president)for 16 years but didnt know anything about major operations going on right under his nose...like iran/contra, s&l scandal(starring his son Neil Bush) moving FIVE BILLION$$$$$$ through bcci and Henry Kissingers BNL to saddam hussein .......

and personally i cant see the logic in appointing officials who claim to have defrauded bush sr by conducting illegal operations "behind his back"
into beauracracies now under bush jr(John Poindexter...the massive new office of information awareness and Richard Armitage...deputy secretary of state...etc etc)
sounds more like a REWARD to me LOL

to quote Rush...

"Follow the money. When somebody says, "It's not the money," it's always the money"

"The 1980s was not a decade of greed but a decade of prosperity; it was the longest period of peacetime growth in American history."
-Rush Limbaugh

Pidua... what was MY "little example" of Kerry flip flopping on the war??
or are you just throwing that in there for fun?
ok i'll take the bait...when did he flip flop on the war?(and which one?vietnam or iraq?)

if you simply dont believe any of this conspiracy stuff is plausible....then you vote according to the CHARACTER of the candidates right?
which candidate has contributed more to society? Kerry or bush jr??
or do you just want an administration labeled "conservative??"
are you saying that full release of more than 15 year old classified stuff is going to tip off the terrorists?? LOL

oh yeah and i understand now that osama bin laden didnt even know the u.s. was funding him at first because most of the BILLIONS were funneled through pakistani intelligence(ISI)by the cia.... wonder what he thought when he found out?

posted February 19, 2004 05:02 PM            

Rumsfield - I like his straight shot ways. He is direct and I respect that. I also respect that he was able to take NutraSweet from a low money making product to a big money making product - even when groups tried to call it poison. It isn't,but no one really wants to do the hard look at all the research on Aspartame. I had to because it is one of my companies competitors. I like Sweet -n - low myself because Aspartame is not sweet enough for my strong coffee.

I don't know enough about Wolfowitz to be honest. I found this link:
http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/depsecdef_bio.html

So I need to look more into his background.I did see that he was unanimously voted in by the senate - so that tells me that he was accepted across the board.

If I could change a few things about Bush I would. I would like to see him be more DIRECT like Rumsfield. He needs to some out and look us in the eyes and tell us what he need to wants to do. I don't like his blanket policy on immigration and I would change some of his dealing with free trade. I think you will find that there are many conservatives that WANT to keep jobs and products here in the US and close the gap in trade.

But, I can see why companies move. The laws here become so strict and costly that the corporations cannot keep up. The Sarbanes-Oxley complaince act is a total bear. It will cost companies twice what they pay for more audits. The problem is it started out great. Hey, I am all for shareholders having a voice in the board of directors and for the CEO having to sign documents taking responsibility for what happens in their company.

But, it gets nuts when it starts to ask for more overhauls of the audits and review of processes and protocols. So a company like Exxon will now have to pay an additional $500 million for these new audits and they prove nothing - but they will increase tax revenue. Tax and spend.. a common theme.

Many companies move to India, Pakistan and elsewhere because they do not have to put up with all the crazy red tape we have here. It is like choosing a different grocery store because you are on a tight budget and why should you pay three times as much for that box of cereal at Safeway than you would at Vons? I price shop, doesn't everyone? Even large companies have to at some point.

We see that the laws become so stringent because we might "Lose one in the cracks" so everyone has to be hit hard. It is like crime in Prince George's County MD. Hell, the new administration would rather send flowers to the murder victims family than to try to convict the perp because they are so afraid of getting the wrong person. So what do they do? Keep them all out and the result is a chaotic place to live and work.