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Harpyr
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posted April 12, 2004 12:52 PM
  
i think she meant your friend who was applying for the same job as 1000+ ppl.IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted April 12, 2004 07:01 PM
Correct HarpyrIP: Logged |
raine6
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posted April 13, 2004 08:04 PM
sorry. he applied for the position of director of international programs at a small midwestern community college. when i re-read his letter, there were thousands who applied, he was just #1,943. he has vast experience overseas, is a vietnam veteran and really would have made a dandy director. he is looking for a position in the field of art, too. anyone know of anything? he has quite the collection of rejection letters. i suppose he could get one of those "hairnet jobs"IP: Logged |
raine6
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posted April 13, 2004 08:19 PM
ozonefiller, you're too young to remember, but you are using the same recycled arguments we heard in vietnam...FOR YEARS only this time we've taken on the big boys--you are right--way over our heads. we should have never gone in there, but it is too late for common sense at this point. here is a letter that appeals to the heart--note how she signs it:Chidren Killed in Falluja FYI This is a letter from our Japanese friend Yumi. Dear Friends,
The captors of my Japanese friends in Iraq just announced now that they will kill the hostage if Japan does not withdrow the Self Defense Force. They changed their mind after hearing Japanese government's statement on TV that the captors were releasing the hostage because Japanese government was firm and didn't negotiate with "terrorists". What all the citizens of the world tried days and nights were wasted because of such
irresponsible statements by Japanese government and media. None of them are released by now and one will be killed within 24 hours.
I am sending this to you to share my sorrow, and to declair my committment to make more peaceful and sustainable world. 500+ Iraqi people are killed in Falluja this week and many were children and babies as seen in the photos below. Think about the sorrow of the mothers and fathers.
If you do not want to face what the US does in foreign countries straight, you can never change it. "How many times must a man turn his head pretending he just doesn't see...."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8CB7C17E-F69E-48A2-8034-DEA425192815.h
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3 Japanese hostages are not released as I write this, and 3 hours to go. What has happened in Falluja triggered the kidnapping of foreigners in Iraq. [DID YOU CATCH THAT? AND SOME PEOPLE "BLAME THE VICTIM"] Iraqi Resistance want the occupation to end. They want foreign troops to go home. I am almost certain that US soldiers also want to go home safely and hug their family. So must be the Japanese soldiers...... All Iraqi people are asking is, "Please leave our country with all your weapons". "Stop killing our children". "Stop polluting our land forever with radioactive weapons" Is it too much to ask?
love, Yumi [my friends, the radioactive weapons are DEPLETED URANIUM--look it up and see what it does. a close friend created a powerful collage of pictures of horribly deformed babies (these now are "normal" babies and children--just dead) and strategically juxtaposed among the photos are actual newspaper and magazine clippings quoting our fearless leaders about how safe they are. that thing had voltage--i had to set it aside in tears and say "i just can't handle this"...and people argue over whether it's right or wrong...one friend just wrote me blaming them for being there in harm's way, quite literally. it's a crazy world we live in...so we know they are there, and kill 'em anyway? otherwise sane people are saying these things...sigh...] IP: Logged |
raine6
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posted April 13, 2004 09:26 PM
ozonefiller, i am confused at what you are saying. you say you are against the war in iraq but yet you say the worst thing we could do is pull out? would that not make you "for" the war in iraq? and you say if we pull out they will retaliate...and they won't if we continue to murder them and blow up their mosques and kill their kids? i respect your position and your experience, and in fact you have my utmost gratitude for 'being there' to protect our country when you were called. but now i am not at all sure we are "protecting our country"...oughtn't we have protected the little children of iraq? shouldn't we have pursued osama, where we had the support of the world because of 9/11? that has gotten lost in all of this, and it appears that the whole bunch of them in this administration (yes, rice, too) have had their words recorded to come back and haunt them when they say something else. has anyone seen the video "the truth about iraq?" a gulf war I vet said it was exactly like it is, only he said clinton should have received some of the blame, too. yet, it seems that the clinton administration did want to stress preparedness, but the republicans were more intent on "getting" clinton for his sexual peccadillos. { talk about folly...sigh...it seems unthinkable that we actually spent that much money and time on that, while preparations to truly protect our country were hindered. they actually cut back on funding, SAYING they were increasing it...we will probably never know the whole truth, but the very fact that rice says there was no racial prejudice or discrimination and her family fought AGAINST the civil rights act shows some kind of faustian deal...and someone compared our attack on saddam to bombing mexico when we got bombed at pearl harbor. it would have made a whole lot of mad mexicans, no matter how many corrupt leaders we could have taken out ozonefiller, i wish to understand your position better. could you set out to tell me the reasons why you think like you do? i truly want to get to know your prespective on things...you know the ol' blind men and the elephant...and buddha said an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind...or in modern terms, dead i will respectfully listen to what you have to say. i guess i really need to know this because my family are all gung-ho to "get saddam" but their natural inclination to feel pity for brutalized children has been somehow stripped away. is it something in the water? and has anyone noticed how so many christians have become so bloodthirsty after watching the passion? the ones i've seen really have war fever now, support our prez, right or wrong, and of all ironies--they got this from watching the most peace-loving man ever...sigh go figure IP: Logged |
ozonefiller
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posted April 14, 2004 12:16 AM
OK Raine6, now you will get to hear some of my own testimony over this behalf of what you are presenting and I don't agree with your preceptions of us Christains as of being "bloodthrusty" after seeing the movie "The Passion",maybe if we got to see "Rocky IV" again...,but not of this movie! I cannot stress enough to the ones that are non-Christians that "The Passion" was never intended to reflect bitterness towards any one that so happens to be descendant of the ones that was solely responsible for the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ,(Au contrair),it was suppose to bring out the heartfelt agony to the ones that has and always had been of knowledge of this "Man-of-peace" and what he-himself has sacrificed for the ones that believe in him of ALL time,for it was HE who believed in us as well! Whoever so happens to feel the need to be "bloodthrusty"(after seeing "The Passion"),then they're desires goes way beyond the teachings of Jesus and seriously need to seek professional help! He does state(in his teachings)that if a man even kills for his name and IN the time of "Judgement" comes into play,and the man came to him and told Jesus that he has murdered in his name's sake,Jesus will turn and face him and state: "I do not know you! STAND BEHIND ME SATAN AND ENTER MY SIGHT NOMORE!" Jesus throughwout his life,has never sponsered death,he's tried to encourage LIFE to his people and even those that were against him! If you think otherwise,then I can only say to you that this is just your opinion of what being a Christain is all about,I'm sorry!As in the pictures that you present in your previous post,all I can tell you is that it shows the images of WAR rearing it's ugly head and that Muslim extremists have happen to capture it on film and then take light onto using it as a tool for the sake of ruthlessly exploiting it to the public and brazing all of it with lies on how the story does hold to,only to incite the anger in those who are gullible into believing these troublemakers,for the quest that those poor people would wage MORE VIOLENCE,MORE WAR,MORE DEATHS and using Women and Children as BODY SHEILDS(within the mists of any and/or all firefights)in battle,between TWO ARMYS! That's not MY idea of true bravery! Within all of it Aljazeera STILL manages to take even MORE SNAP SHOTS of even MORE VICTIMS that they deliver MORE LIES TO! This is the truism of COWARDICE and a profound example of the psychological grip that it holds onto the people that find themselves as a DEVICE for GUERRILLA WARFARE! It's happening in Iraq,just like it did in Veitnam. What Aljazeera broadcast doesn't tell these citizens of Iraq is that... if the US Coalition does leave,without making absolute sure that ALL of Iraq is secure(under sovereignty of Democracy and as an allied state),not only is Al-Quaida going to rush into Iraq (with force) and fortify posts of opposition towards any or all neighboring countries(with of course,present Weapons of Mass Destuction),but they will wipeout ALL the citizens in Iraq with brutal vengence and ALJAZEERA will turn they're heads away from it all(with NO REPORTS OF IT WHAT SO EVER),in hopes they will not become VICTIMISED by AL-QUAIDA'S WRATH onto these bogus REPORTERS! ...and any of these pictures that THEY show now,will be NOTHING in comparisons to of what will await the people of Iraq! Hussein has already proven that point,once before! IP: Logged |
raine6
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posted April 14, 2004 12:25 AM
i rest my caseIP: Logged |
ozonefiller
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posted April 14, 2004 12:29 AM
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ozonefiller
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posted April 14, 2004 12:35 AM
It's all PROPAGANDA to me anyway!IP: Logged |
raine6
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posted April 14, 2004 12:42 AM
ozonefiller, i do not wish to attack your faith in any way. thank you for attempting to clarify your views. please check out my post under uni-verse codes and passion of the christ, and you will see what i am talking about. we need respect for ALL people, whatever their faith or non-faith. lack of respect comes from not respecting our own selves (from a lifetime of being told how sinful we are?) this festering wound in our psyches has been tapped by this movie, and the result is found 'out there' if we start paying attention... indeed, people are projecting this compounded "badness" into the world. that is what i am witnessing. again, see my post for clarification. i am not berating christians who truly follow the spirit of christ's teachings, but i think you will have to admit that far too many of them bear no resemblance whatsoever to those principles. and that fact is coming out in the duplicity with which people literally cry "Praise god and pass the ammunition"and i respect your opinion about what to do with iraq now. there are no easy answers to a situation bush got us into for the reasons you quoted. backpeddling is tough. i have to wonder how the world would have responded to dennis kucinich' libran message of brotherly love and compassion. sometimes i think he is the buddha reincarnated...they say we deserve the leadership we get--and i am afraid we are stuck with a man who bypassed the american population and stepped over the line to get "elected"...'twas a sad day IP: Logged |
ozonefiller
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posted April 14, 2004 01:27 AM
OK Raine6,I stopped over their (to that post that you were telling me about)and added my two cents in.IP: Logged | |
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