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Topic: The John Kerry Flip Flop Olympics
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Randall
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From: The Goober Galaxy
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posted August 18, 2004 02:25 AM
  
http://www.georgewbush.com/Olympics/ ------------------
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Isis
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From: Brisbane, Australia
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posted August 18, 2004 11:31 AM
LMAO - I love "Appeal Score to French Judge", who of course gives you a zero... 
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LibraSparkle
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posted August 18, 2004 03:48 PM
that is funny.I've been wondering though... Is he really a flip flopper, or is he a man that's capable of continuous learning and not afraid to change his mind? I don't know which. I'm still not excited about Kerry. IP: Logged |
Isis
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posted August 18, 2004 04:11 PM
I think he's a flip flopper - he will say whatever he thinks people want to hear. I view that as very bad, and not worthy of trust. I think that if he came out and said what he really believed, he'd alienate all the moderates in the Dem party, which of course won't win an election. To the same degree, I think all politicians tell people what they want to hear, I think the difference with Bush is that more of the real him comes through, he's not a seasoned politician who's got the BSing game down pat. Most people I know that voted for Bush last time around, it was more a vote against Gore. If the Dems would quit nominating individuals who are so leftist, and find a moderate, I think they might be surprised at the results. Neither Rs nor Ds should be pandering to their extreme elements, though they do, sadly. IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted August 18, 2004 06:36 PM
"Most people I know that voted for Bush last time around, it was more a vote against Gore. If the Dems would quit nominating individuals who are so leftist, and find a moderate, I think they might be surprised at the results. Neither Rs nor Ds should be pandering to their extreme elements, though they do, sadly."I totally agree with this... even though I LOVE totally leftist Nader  I would vote for damn near anything he ran for. Maybe he should try something other than President. He could make some fabulous changes in virtually any branch of government.
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jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted August 18, 2004 07:09 PM
I agree with you wholeheartedly about Ralph Nader LibraSparkle.  Turn Nader loose in the American government and in about 6 months he'd make the European Union the premier economic power in the world.  IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted August 18, 2004 07:48 PM
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FishKitten
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posted August 18, 2004 08:22 PM
A wise man changes his mind many times during his lifetime...a fool never does.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted August 20, 2004 06:21 PM
So FishKitten, do you consider a man who changes course 180* from week to week or who changes his positions on important issues depending on which group he's talking to
1.a wise man, 2.a liar, 3.a damned liar,
4.a flip-flopper or 5.a fool? IP: Logged |
StarLover33
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posted August 20, 2004 11:03 PM
 Just so you know, I'm going to state my opinion. It's not fact, so it is subject to change.  I wholeheartedly believe that John Kerry is a phony. There is something about him that annoys the heck out of me. I don't know what it is exactly, I mean he's no worse than others, but somehow he bothers me. I also believe that Teresa Hienz is un-American. She looks down and snubs her nose torward the public. Her speech at the DNC was horrific, and her agenda smelled suspicious. I believe she should be kicked back to Europe where she belongs, and have her stay there exiled for good. Argh! I think this country takes a lot of bad criticism to heart, and then we get sad and upset when other countries don't like us. It must be a Cancerian thing! Like Jwhop, I think there is a huge danger with Kerry internationally speaking. He sounds like he's going to depend solely on the United Nations. Kerry is quite possibly a socialist and communist. That's why I don't like him. -StarLover IP: Logged |
FishKitten
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posted August 21, 2004 10:23 AM
Actually, Jwhop, I don't necessarily consider him any of the things on your list. I consider him exactly the same as I consider George Bush...as an American who thinks he can do something good for his country. In either or both cases, we could point out things that we think they have done right and things they have done wrong to accomplish that goal. I also think we are going down the wrong road when we continue to villianize our elected leaders and those who have the guts to run for election these days. As you have obviously figured out, I am quite liberal politically. Heck, I'm so liberal, I make Ted Kennedy look like Rush Limbaugh. But to me that is about issues like having the right to marry whomever one wishes and medical research and economics. It isn't about calling George Bush every name in the book and trying to paint all conservatives with one big evil brush. About half of voting Americans are Democrat and about half are Republican. I don't believe for one instant that half of all Americans...whether liberal or conservative...are liars or want to see the worst for our country. I think Americans in general want the best for ourselves and the world. The disagreement is on how to accomplish that. Furthermore, I think our diversity is a strength, not a weakness. I think if either party were to win the Whitehouse for, just as an example, 40 years, it would put the whole union in jeopardy. A bird needs two wings to fly, both left and right. I think the American Eagle needs both its political wings. The checks and balances work pretty well. Our economic policies change on a cyclical basis governed, at least to some extent, by the party in power. We never go too far one direction, so we stay strong and continue to play a leading role in world economics. I'm glad we have both Democrats and Republicans. So far so good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, etc, etc. I do, however, greatly wish that our politicians on both sides would stop mucking around in the gutter trying to make each other look incompetent and downright dastardly. When you point a finger at someone else, three fingers point back at you. Our constant infighting over the last couple of decades has damaged our reputation across the world to a huge extent. It would be nice if Americans could unite over something less horrific than 9/11 or Pearl Harbour. May we find a way toward more unity and less anger.IP: Logged |
Isis
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From: Brisbane, Australia
Registered: May 2009
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posted August 21, 2004 12:38 PM
FK -  I couldn't have said it better myself - I've tried, not so eloquently nor so succinct. I agree with you wholeheartedly, even if you are a liberal ------------------
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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 21, 2004 06:57 PM
Republican humor. Bah. Better a veteran and a proven leader than a gang of draft dodgers and corporate Republicans.------------------
Hello everybody! I used to be QueenofSheeba and then I was Apollo and now I am QueenofSheeba again (and I'm a guy in case you didn't know)! IP: Logged |
StarLover33
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posted August 22, 2004 07:29 PM
Proven leader my bum! You know I'm playing, I love you QOS.  -StarLover IP: Logged |
ozonefiller
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posted August 22, 2004 08:05 PM
Here's a game that we can ALL play!
http://www.bushflash.com/lotto.html
Oh gee, I'm sorry that it isn't something that you can play on LL, maybe that's because we are all playing this game already in REAL life and our opponent is the Bush Adimintration! Just a thought! IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted August 22, 2004 09:05 PM
Hey! You tricker! There's no game!IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted August 22, 2004 09:30 PM
http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/bushgame.html Here's something to have fun with IP: Logged |
Alarik
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posted August 22, 2004 10:02 PM
In general, I think that a consistency of mind is a sign of a very simple mind, and that the valuing of consistency of mind is a sign of an even simpler mind. But firstly, people should know what their president stands for, it's only fair. Secondly, in Kerry's case, I don't think he's changing his mind for reasons that I can respect. I think he's doing it, like someone else said, because he wants to say what people want to hear. IP: Logged |
Alarik
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posted August 22, 2004 10:08 PM
If only there were some way that we could get a decent candidate for once, and not have to vote for either of these blow-holes...whatever, lol...not like *that* is going to happen...ever...IP: Logged |
ozonefiller
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posted August 22, 2004 10:11 PM
Is that such a bad thing Alarik? I don't think so. I rather have a president that tells ME what I want to hear rather then a president that says what our enimies want to hear!
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Alarik
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posted August 22, 2004 10:13 PM
The lesser of two evils? Perhaps.IP: Logged |
jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 2787
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2004 01:38 PM
Flippedy Flopping Along The Jig Is Up For Kerry
VIEW FROM THE RIGHT
Adam Sparks, Special to SF Gate
Monday, August 23, 2004
John Kerry surrendered the election to George W. Bush this month when he finally came out and said exactly what he would do in Iraq. After months of equivocating over how the president misled the American people with all those phony WMDs and teasing us that he had a secret plan for Iraq, the Democratic candidate for president said he still would have given the president the authority to go into Iraq even without any evidence of WMDs. Wow, what an admission! http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/sparks/ IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted August 23, 2004 11:49 PM
I heard about that not that long ago, myself. What the heck is that about, Kerry? Really?  IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2004 12:47 AM
What's it all about LibraSparkle?It's about a man (Kerry) who will do anything and say anything to be elected President of the United States. Ultimately, it's going to be all about keeping such a man far away from the levers of power in America and I think Americans are finally beginning to get it. For about 2 years, Kerry has lambasted Bush over every detail of the war with Iraq. Bush finally called Kerry on it and Kerry, in order to appeal to the centrist position of most voters was forced to adopt the position the President was right and he would have done the same damned thing......only he, Kerry would have done it better
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