posted August 23, 2004 01:58 PM            

GOP Convention --- Calling all Marxists!
Ralph R. Reiland
Monday, Aug. 23, 2004

“The protests around the Republican National Convention are shaping up to be perhaps the largest this country has ever seen. Organizers are quietly discussing the possibility of having over 1 million people converging in the streets of New York City.”

That’s the message from the organizers of the Life After Capitalism 2004 Conference, a series of workshops and training sessions scheduled in New York City “a week prior to the major demonstrations” that seek “to bring together and give voice to the non-sectarian anti-capitalist left in the United States.”

posted August 23, 2004 02:43 PM            

RHETORIC PROPAGANDA as usual

You know that this is just a right wing website that favors the communists and John Deere outsourses to China too, right?

...but the GOP should know how to be a communist I gather!

posted August 23, 2004 03:00 PM            

The groups putting on those programs make no bones about being Marxists and other collectivists.

I'm a Capitalist Ozone. I make no bones about that at all. To me, Marxism is nothing but shared misery which destroys any nation foolish enough to adopt it as governmental policy.

posted August 23, 2004 03:59 PM            

Also, we've talked about not securing North Korea and other countries that might really have those WMDs and now Bush is pulling out our soldiers from that,so, what's up with that(I ask)?

posted August 23, 2004 04:55 PM            

Of course Ozone so have the other enemies of America endorsed Kerry. Enemies like the American Communist Party, the International Socialists, Hamas, the leaders of Iran, Islamic Jihad, you know Ozone all the usual suspects who are wetting themselves to get Kerry elected. Anyone but Bush who is not swayed by the Marxist marchers and sympathizers from going after terrorists wherever they are.

Let's just say these people and groups know who their friend is and it isn't Bush.

posted August 23, 2004 07:00 PM            

When the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed, it was the Republicans who helped pass it and the Southern Democrats who attempted to scuttle the bill with such Democrat luminaries as Al Gore senior and Bill Clinton's mentor Senator Fullbright leading the effort.

posted August 23, 2004 08:34 PM              

visual picture of a bunch of hooded guys puking

posted August 23, 2004 09:09 PM            

Let me tell you what I do know for certain.

In 2002 at a function honoring Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday, Trent Lott, then Majority Leader of the Senate had this to say about Strom Thurmond.

"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years."

That statement by Trent Lott cost him his position as Majority Leader of the Senate of the United States because the President refused to come to his defense and he was forced to step down.

Since Trent Lott was honoring Strom Thurmond with his statement and the President refused to back Lott up or even make any excuse for him, it would seem President Bush at least did not adore Strom Thurmond.

Another factor to consider is that the President and Ashcroft were not at the event honoring Strom Thurmond on his birthday for 70 years of public service in both the State of South Carolina and the United States government, 48 years as a Senator.

In keeping with my contention that the KKK were/are mostly Democrats, it should interest you to know that until 1964, Strom Thurmond was a Democrat Senator from South Carolina and that year, switched his party affiliation to Republican.

posted August 23, 2004 10:08 PM            

Southern Democrats were not wild about the northeastern liberal Democrats, that's true and eventually, most of them that didn't retire of get defeated in an election switched parties.

I repeat, most KKK members are or were Democrats and so far as I know, the only member of Congress remaining who was a KKK member is Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

posted August 24, 2004 12:02 AM            

A staunch Anti-Nebraska Democrat, Alvan E. Bovay, like his fellow Americans, was disillusioned by this atmosphere of confusion and division. Taking advantage of the political turmoil caused by the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Bovay united discouraged members from the Free Soil Party, the Conscience Whigs and the Anti-Nebraska Democrats. Meeting in a Congregational church in Ripon, Wis., he helped establish a party that represented the interests of the North and the abolitionists by merging two fundamental issues: free land and preventing the spread of slavery into the Western territories. Realizing the new party needed a name to help unify it, Bovay decided on the term Republican because it was simple, synonymous with equality and alluded to the earlier party of Thomas Jefferson, the Democratic-Republicans.

On July 6, 1854, in Jackson, Mich., the Republican Party formally organized itself by holding its first convention, adopting a platform and nominating a full slate of candidates for state offices. Other states soon followed, and the first Republican candidate for president, John C. Frémont, ran in 1856 with the slogan "Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men, Frémont."

Even though he ran on a third-party ticket, Frémont managed to capture a third of the vote, and the Republican Party began to add members throughout the land. As tensions mounted over the slavery issue, more anti-slavery Republicans began to run for office and be elected, even with the risks involved with taking this stance.

Republican Sen. Charles Sumner of Massachusetts experienced this danger firsthand. In May 1856, he delivered a passionate anti-slavery speech in which he made critical remarks about several pro-slavery senators, including Andrew F. Butler of South Carolina. Sumner infuriated Rep. Preston S. Brooks, the son of one of Butler's cousins, who felt his family honor had been insulted. Two days later, Brooks walked into the Senate and beat Sumner unconscious with a cane. This incident electrified the nation and helped to galvanize Northern opinion against the South; Southern opinion hailed Brooks as a hero. But Sumner stood by his principles, and after a three-year, painful convalescence, he returned to the Senate to continue his struggle against slavery.

With the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860, the Republicans firmly established themselves as a major party capable of holding onto the White House for 60 of the next 100 years.

Kansas-Nebraska Act
Kansas-Nebraska Act, bill that became law on May 30, 1854, by which the U.S. Congress established the territories of Kansas and Nebraska. By 1854 the organization of the vast Platte and Kansas river countries W of Iowa and Missouri was overdue. As an isolated issue territorial organization of this area was no problem. It was, however, irrevocably bound to the bitter sectional controversy over the extension of slavery into the territories and was further complicated by conflict over the location of the projected transcontinental railroad. Under no circumstances did proslavery Congressmen want a free territory (Kansas) W of Missouri. Because the West was expanding rapidly, territorial organization, despite these difficulties, could no longer be postponed. Four attempts to organize a single territory for this area had already been defeated in Congress, largely because of Southern opposition to the Missouri Compromise. Although the last of these attempts to organize the area had nearly been successful, Stephen A. Douglas, chairman of the Senate Committee on Territories, decided to offer territorial legislation making concessions to the South. Douglas's motives have remained largely a matter of speculation. Various historians have emphasized Douglas's desire for the Presidency, his wish to cement the bonds of the Democratic party, his interest in expansion and railroad building, or his desire to activate the unimpressive Pierce administration. The bill he reported in Jan., 1854, contained the provision that the question of slavery should be left to the decision of the territorial settlers themselves. This was the famous principle that Douglas now called popular sovereignty, though actually it had been enunciated four years earlier in the Compromise of 1850. In its final form Douglas's bill provided for the creation of two new territories—Kansas and Nebraska—instead of one. The obvious inference—at least to Missourians—was that the first would be slave, the second free. The Kansas-Nebraska Act flatly contradicted the provisions of the Missouri Compromise (under which slavery would have been barred from both territories); indeed, an amendment was added specifically repealing that compromise. This aspect of the bill in particular enraged the antislavery forces, but after three months of bitter debate in Congress, Douglas, backed by President Pierce and the Southerners, saw it adopted. Its effects were anything but reassuring to those who had hoped for a peaceful solution. The popular sovereignty provision caused both proslavery and antislavery forces to marshal strength and exert full pressure to determine the “popular” decision in Kansas in their own favor, using groups such as the Emigrant Aid Company. The result was the tragedy of “bleeding” Kansas. Northerners and Southerners were aroused to such passions that sectional division reached a point that precluded reconciliation. A new political organization, the Republican party, was founded by opponents of the bill, and the United States was propelled toward the Civil War.

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So at one time, the Republicans were once Democrats. So what is the difference back then?

posted August 24, 2004 12:13 AM            

I wasn't saying or even implying proxime was wrong when she said there is or was pure seething resentment by Southern Democrats towards the "party of Lincoln".....which is the Republican Party. In fact, I think she's right that there was and/or is.

Here's some proof the communists are backing Kerry....for what it's worth. If I were Kerry I would have immediately rejected their endorsements but Kerry didn't. Perhaps Kerry is looking for love in all the wrong places.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/28/141010.shtml
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38948

Hmmm, I was surprised to find this on the AOL search engine under my screen name jwhop
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000464.html

The notion there has been a switch between the Democrats and Republicans on the issue of civil rights or equal protection under the law is nonsense. The Democrats have always talked a good game but delivered a thin gruel to minorities while the Republicans have consistently applied the laws and brought minorities into positions of influence in their administrations.

Kerry was lambasted by minority groups for having NO minorities in his campaign while Bush has appointed many minorities to his cabinet and other positions of influence. More than any other administration in American history.

posted August 24, 2004 12:57 AM            

The Klansmen regarded the Reconstruction governments as hostile and oppressive. They also generally believed in the innate inferiority of blacks and therefore mistrusted and resented the rise of former slaves to a status of civil equality and often to positions of political power. Thus, the Klan became an illegal organization committed to destroying the Reconstruction governments from the Carolinas to Arkansas. Attired in robes or sheets and wearing masks topped with pointed hoods, the Klansmen terrorized public officials in efforts to drive them from office and blacks in general to prevent them from voting, holding office, and otherwise exercising their newly acquired political rights. When such tactics failed to produce the desired effect, their victims might be flogged, mutilated, or murdered. These activities were justified by the Klan as necessary measures in defense of white supremacy and the inviolability of white womanhood.

A secret convention of Klansmen, held in Nashville, Tennessee, in 1867, adopted a declaration of principles expressing loyalty to the United States Constitution and its government and declaring the determination of the Klan to “protect the weak, the innocent and the defenseless ...; to relieve the injured and oppressed; [and] to succor the suffering ....” The convention designated the Klan as an Invisible Empire and provided for a supreme official, called Grand Wizard of the Empire, who wielded virtually autocratic power and who was assisted by ten Genii. Other principal officials of the Klan were the Grand Dragon of the Realm, who was assisted by eight Hydras; the Grand Titan of the Dominion, assisted by six Furies; and the Grand Cyclops of the Den, assisted by two Nighthawks.

From 1868 to 1870, while federal occupation troops were being withdrawn from the southern states and radical regimes replaced with Democratic administrations, the Klan was increasingly dominated by the rougher elements in the population. The local organizations, called klaverns, became so uncontrollable and violent that the Grand Wizard, former Confederate general Nathan B. Forrest, officially disbanded the Klan in 1869. Klaverns, however, continued to operate on their own. In 1871, Congress passed the Force Bill to implement the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guaranteeing the rights of all citizens. In the same year President Ulysses S. Grant issued a proclamation calling on members of illegal organizations to disarm and disband; thereafter hundreds of Klansmen were arrested. The remaining klaverns gradually faded as the political and social subordination of blacks was reestablished.

The name, rituals, and some of the attitudes of the original Klan were adopted by a new fraternal organization incorporated in Georgia in 1915. The official name of the new society, which was organized by a former preacher, Colonel William Simmons, was Invisible Empire, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. Membership was open to native-born, white, Protestant males, 16 years of age or older; blacks, Roman Catholics, and Jews were excluded and were increasingly made targets of defamation and persecution by the Klan. Until 1920 the society exercised little influence. Then, in the period of economic dislocation and political and social unrest that followed World War I, the Klan expanded rapidly in urban areas and became active in many states, notably Colorado, Oregon, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey. Although the Klan everywhere fiercely preached white supremacy, it focused its attack on what it considered to be alien outsiders, particularly the Roman Catholic church, which it believed was threatening traditional American ways and values. All non-Protestants, aliens, liberals, trade unionists, and striking workers were denounced as subversives.

It was customary for the Klansmen to burn crosses on hillsides and near the homes of those they wished to frighten. Masked Klansmen also marched through the streets of many communities, carrying placards threatening various persons with summary punishment and warning others to leave town. Many persons were kidnapped, flogged, and mutilated by the Klan; a number were killed. Few prosecutions of Klansmen resulted, and in some communities they were abetted by local officials.

Journalistic disclosures of crimes committed by the Klan and of corruption and immorality in its leadership led to a congressional investigation in 1921, and for a time the Klan changed its tactics. After 1921 it experienced a rapid growth of membership and became politically influential throughout the nation. One estimate of its membership, made in 1924, when the Klan was at the peak of its strength, was as high as 3 million. In that year a resolution denouncing the Klan, introduced at the national convention of the Democratic Party, precipitated a bitter controversy and was defeated.

In the mid-1920s, inept and exploitive leadership, internal conflict, and alleged Klan immorality and violence badly damaged the Klan’s reputation, and political opposition increased. By 1929 it had been reduced to several thousand members. During the economic depression of the 1930s the Ku Klux Klan remained active on a small scale, particularly against trade union organizers in the South. It also threatened blacks with punishment if they tried to exercise their right to vote. In 1940 the Klan joined with the German American Bund, an organization financed in part by the government of Nazi Germany, in holding a large rally at Camp Nordland, New Jersey.

NOTE: This is where the sides started to switch LibraSparkle.

After the entry of the United States into World War II, the Klan curtailed its activities. In 1944 it disbanded formally when it was unable to pay back taxes owed to the federal government. Revival of Klan activities after the war led to widespread public sentiment for the suppression of the organization. It suffered a setback in its national stronghold, Georgia, when that state revoked the Klan charter in 1947. With the death of its strongest postwar leader, the obstetrician Samuel Green, of Atlanta, Georgia, Klan unity broke down into numerous, independent, competing units, which often did not last long enough to be placed on the list of subversive organizations issued by the U.S. attorney general.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruling, on May 17, 1954, that racial segregation in public schools was unconstitutional, stirred the Klan into new attempts at recruitment and violence but did not bring internal unity or greatly increased membership, power, or respectability in the South. Most opponents of desegregation chose other leaders, such as the White Citizens Council, while the Klan chiefly attracted the fringe elements of society and remained more of a status than a resistance movement.

As the civil rights movement gained force in the late 1950s and as resistance to integration began to diminish throughout the South, the Klan continued to offer hard-core opposition to civil rights programs and was believed to be involved in many incidents of racial violence, intimidation, and reprisal, particularly bombings. After the U.S. Civil Rights Act of 1964 it experienced a marked increase in membership, reaching an estimated 40,000 in 1965.

By the mid-1970s, the Klan had gained somewhat in respectability. Acknowledged Klan leaders ran for public office in the South, amassing sizable numbers of votes. Approximately 15 separate organizations existed, including the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, the United Klans of America, and the National Klan. A resurgence of Klan violence occurred in the late 1970s, and in 1980 a Klan office was opened in Toronto, Canada. The total membership was estimated at about 5000 at the end of the 1980s. A former grand wizard of the Klan, David Duke was elected to the Louisiana House of Representatives in 1989 and ran unsuccessfully in the state’s gubernatorial election in 1991.

posted August 24, 2004 01:17 AM            

Socialism, Marxism, Communism, NWO, the very things that they hate now, is what THEY are becoming!

Or maybe they have always been.

This is not a party issue, this is what it has ALWAYS been: A CLASS ISSUE!

Once again, the class warfare that has always been throughout the precincts of time, from very beginnings of Intelligent life, until now...

posted August 24, 2004 01:40 AM              

The Republican leadership seems not to care about civil rights, unless it has to do with their property. And it's thanks to the liberals that we have any civil rights in the first place.

posted August 24, 2004 01:44 AM            

I utterly reject your attempt to separate Americans into the haves and have nots. No one is holding anyone back but the individuals themselves.

I know you think there is a daily meeting of the haves of American who decide who will be screwed today.

I guess this is a result of your thinking that it's a zero sum game in America. The thinking that in order for someone to prosper, someone must be paupered. Pure fallacy Ozone and the record is that most millionaires come from humble roots not associated with what you would call the power structure of America.

The only one holding you or anyone else back in America is you. The sooner you get it, the better........for you.

posted August 24, 2004 01:46 AM              

*Kerry supporter's RNC nightmare*

posted August 24, 2004 02:19 AM            

If you really believe the drivel you posted then it behooves you to get your rear out on the streets of NY and make sure none of your compatriots misbehave, destroy private or personal property or make the general a$ses of themselves you envision.

posted August 24, 2004 02:27 AM            

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I guess this is a result of your thinking that it's a zero sum game in America. The thinking that in order for someone to prosper, someone must be paupered. Pure fallacy Ozone and the record is that most millionaires come from humble roots not associated with what you would call the power structure of America.

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That was the worst one of them all! I don't know of anybody of that stature that this claim has to hold true of today and George W. Bush is amongst them all! He never had a resourse of his own that he himself can actually claim and the millions of dollers that he does recieve,doesn't go without him "tapping" into his own daddy's reputable clientele interests!

Maybe if I work in some dead end job(like McDonalds,Wendy's or Burgerking or all at the same time and only having two hours of sleep a day)and in 70 years, I'll save enough of money in order to buy some stock and trade.

But the way the market looks right now, it looks kinda "obligue"!

What do you think?

posted September 27, 2004 06:45 AM              

JWHop:

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Yeah Ozone, the President is a communist sympathizer. So much so in fact that the mad little communist dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong Il has publicly endorsed John Heinz Kerry for President.
Of course Ozone so have the other enemies of America endorsed Kerry. Enemies like the American Communist Party, the International Socialists, Hamas, the leaders of Iran, Islamic Jihad, you know Ozone all the usual suspects who are wetting themselves to get Kerry elected. Anyone but Bush who is not swayed by the Marxist marchers and sympathizers from going after terrorists wherever they are.

Let's just say these people and groups know who their friend is and it isn't Bush.

North Korea has a lot more to worry about than 37,000 US troops near their border Ozone. It's been insane for years to leave those troops to be sacrificed to a 1,000,000 strong N Korea force across the border. The President is more reliant on F-117's, B-2's, F-22's, cruise missiles and other weapons than a small force of US military in South Korea. Trust me, North Korea gets the message something in the equation has changed and it isn't a change North Korea likes.

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You sound like a good person, JW. Not a racist, not sexist, believe in goodness and equality for all. I'll bet you'd like to solve some of those problems Americans are facing, like living below the poverty line despite being gainfully employed, children starving to death, etc. etc.

I have a solution for you! Join the Communist Party!

Yes, the Communist Party! *Join us.... we loooove you.....*

Actually, The Reverend Moon recently gave his endorsement for President Bush, and called for the elimination of gays! What a nice gesture! Does that reflect on Bush, do you think?

As for Marxism, I think that is a little radical for anybody's tastes. Even modern Communists aren't rooting for Marx anymore. Some of his ideas were down-right *bizarre*.

JWHop, there's an old expression that goes, if you go far enough left, you're right. And vice-versa. There is a point on the continuum where the two radical viewpoints meet. It's called Totalitarianism, and has been Universally condemned by both the left and the right....

Instead of hiding behind the banner of "Republican", why not call yourself a "liberal Republican", which is what you sound like you are.... and if not, then clarify your views on the individual issues, so we can see what you *really* believe.

Remember the good ol' days of McCarthyism? The Communist purges? Even tortmenting famous people they suspected were Communist sympathizers? Turns out poor McCarthy had a screw loose, and he was finally censured. Good thing, too.

Slapping a label on people like "marxist" is a broad generalization, JWHop. So, in a way, it is a form of political discrimination, just as making generalizations about one's race is discriminatory.

There's a reason we see both the Communist Party and the Green Party on the ballot today, and that is because McCarthyism is now illegal. It is a thing of the past. People have a right to choose which economic system is best for America the same way they have a right to freedom of speech, because freedom to amend our government is what America is all about. There's nothing Anti-American about it at all. (Unless you are going to spoon-feed us *your personal* ideas about what America should be like.) Say, didn't McCarthy name his commision the UnAmerican activities committee?

You say the International Socialists are enemies of America? I hate to break this to you, JW, but *we* have a Socialist economy. As does England, and all of our allies in Europe. Sheesh. Where have you been for the past 150 years?

There is also a *big* difference between the Jihadists in the middle east and International Socialists. The former are very radically conservative, much moreso than anyone in America. Funny, lumping them all together. Before you know it, everyone in America will get labeled a terrorist. Scary.....

No doubt about it, JW. You are a capitalist. No one would deny that. Why don't you work to reform tax code instead? Ever heard of corporate welfare? Do you know there is no shortage of workers, yet corporations leave positions unfilled because they can't find candidates to fill those positions? Did you realize that half the public sector workers in America today are temp employees with no job stability and no benefits? Do you realize how the hidden tax of inflation and interest rates are helping to make rich the people who hold a stake in the national debt, and that debt is there for a reason, because it is the collateral our monetary system is based upon, and that it will *never* go away?

Did you know that more money is spent on the National debt each year than The Defense Dept., Welfare, and all the other govt. agencies combined?

Did you know that over half of what remains of the budget is spent on the Defense Dept, and that only a small fraction of all available tax dollars goes to cover things like Education and Welfare? Did you know that Welfare is not even significantly contributing to your tax burden?

Ah, I thought not.

Who in the media is rotting our kids' minds? Corporations. Who gets special tax breaks that no one else gets? Corporations. Who significantly adds to the tax burden of middle class folk by way of corporate leveraged buyouts? Corporations. Who owns the national debt? Stockholders invested in corporations. Who won't employ able-bodied people because middle managers have a snit on their shoulders? Corporations. Who's destroying our environment? Corporations. Who owns the genetic code for the human race, and over half the land in America? Corporations.

Who's got the best lawyers and pork-barrel lobbyists money can buy? Who makes the campaign contributions that back candidates like Bush and Kerry? Who taxes us to death, then won't employ us, until we shrivel up into mindless slaves? Who takes away capitalism and small business opportunities with bills like NAFTA and GATT? Corporations.

I am disillusioned with the Democrats now, JWHop, I think I will join you in the Communist Party now. Even though they don't have a rat's *** chance of winning.