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LittleLadyLeo
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posted August 24, 2004 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just finished reading my birthday present to myself - "The South Was Right." Anyone with an interest in politics and history should read this book! No matter where your heritage lies, or what your views on the War for Southern Independence are, this book should be required reading in American schools. States' Rights vs. centralized government (like the one the Founding Fathers fought to break free from).

It's made me realize one essential thing - the true American dream is dead. Our ancestors came to this country for a multitude of reasons - to escape persecution on whatever level, to escape famine, to escape war, etc. Their one thought was to find a place where they could live and survive. Live and survive. Not much more than that. The better life for their children meant not having to worry about foreign powers invading due to old hatreds, government telling them how to worship or not, no food for lack of land, etc. My ancestors came here from Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales, and Germany just to LIVE. Why is that a person is now a failure if they don't have money in the bank and gadgets galore? Why is that someone who works off the land and survives is less than someone who sits in an office and makes a million dollars a year? Why has wealth become the standard instead of life?

I'm rambling some. Sorry. I'm a proud Southerner, who has been raised in a Yankee/commerce thought dominated world. No more. I am rich to the extreme! I have food, that I have grown, sitting ready to consume. I have clothes on my back that may not be the latest fashion, but I made with my own hands. I have a roof over my head that keeps the rain out and the family in. I have time on my hands to enjoy the wonderful world God has put before me. What more could anyone ask for?

Deo Vindice


Blessings to all

LLL

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juniperb
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posted August 24, 2004 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have time on my hands to enjoy the wonderful world God has put before me. What more could anyone ask for?

the wonderful Soul that God/Dess created for You and all the Imigrants seeking relief from persecution?

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the true American dream is dead

Only if the Soul is dead

Just another onion on your lovely & welcomed insight

If I missed your birthday LLL, I hope you celebrated your life

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StarLover33
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posted August 24, 2004 11:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing really dies.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 25, 2004 02:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All fine and good, but I have to wonder, LLL, how does this have to do with "If the South Woulda Won..."? Nothing wrong with a ramble, but I really am curious.

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Isis
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posted August 25, 2004 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then States' rights would have triumphed over Federal rights, and the government would be a very different fish.

I don't think that book is an argument in favor of slavery, but rather takes slavery out of the equation and looks only at the govermental implications of the war.

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 25, 2004 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But really, with all due respect, the South could never have won. North is dominant. North has always been victorious over the South.

I found the section of Star Signs that talks about this perticurlarly interesting. Mysterious, even.

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juniperb
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posted August 25, 2004 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LibraSparkle, can you guess where my compass direction on the sofa, bed and work place is

It is intriguing. Uni-versal law? I haven`t examined it beyond Lindas work, have you?

Good thoughts for a thread

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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 26, 2004 02:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With all due respect, Israel is quite definitely to the south of both Lebanon and Syria, yet has trounced both of them soundly numerous times. Is Israel an exception to Universal Law?

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Randall
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posted August 26, 2004 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda said there would be examples that rarely (but sometimes) violate North-South polarity due to a higher cause. She gave a good example, but I can't recall what it was right off-hand.

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thirteen
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posted August 26, 2004 04:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to throw in my two cents. The government is merely a reflection of the people. People have turned their own powers over to the government. When people change the government will change.

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StarLover33
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posted August 26, 2004 11:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Randall, Linda's example was The Thirteen Colonies and the Brits.

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Randall
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posted August 27, 2004 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 29, 2004 03:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juni, I haven't looked any further into it than what Linda has written.

Now that I think of it though, I will look further into it.

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 29, 2004 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda Goodman from Star Signs:
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If world leaders were more metaphysically oriented, they would find it meaningful and prophetic that the nation of Isreal is north of Saudi Arabia - and that Tel Aviv is likewise north of Cairo Egypt. Yet Tel Aviv is south of Beirut, capital of Lebanon - while Beruit is north of Cairo, Egypt. With these complex and intertwinded examples of the North-South Universal Law of polarity, it's no wonder the fighting in the Middle East seems to be fated to go on forever ... until all of these nations realize that it's a no-win situation, and build a bridge of peace between one another, in a spirit of compromise and respect for the religious faiths of each.

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Now let's analyze the Revolutionary War wiht England, our "mother country." Both the United States and England are, of coure, in the Northern Hemishpere. London is north of, not only our capital, Washington, D.C., but also Boston, Philadelphia and Plymouth Rock. So what happened here? We won our independence from England, and we also won the infamous War of 1812 with Great Britain. Are we immune to this powerful and inflexible Universal Law of North-South dominance? Yes we are. Does that suprise you?

To begin with, the real America was owned by our American Indian brothers and sisters. Following the North-South polarity law, they unfortunately but naturally lost the country to a handful of English people and a few Frenchmen who came over here and literally stole America from its rightful owners, accomplished through several brutal and violent wars with the red men - because London is north of America. The outcome could have been no different. In this case - of American Indians losing their proud country to the English - the law was humming harmoniously, even though it may have sounded like sour notes and discordant chords to the unfortunate Indians.

Present-day decendants of those brave Indians may wonder why the shameful way they were robbed of their country was permitted by any kind of universal law or harmony, if ht eword "harmony is synonymous wiht the word "peace." It's understandable that they should question the justice of such a law.

Could it be that the Higher Selves of both the American Indians and the Higher Selves of those English-born soldiers who fought them had a larger law in mind - that these Higher Selves of both sides knew the future of America, and knew that it was in the hands of a few Adepts and Avatars with the most glorious dream since the original dream in Eden?


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