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Petron unregistered
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posted October 03, 2004 04:18 AM
Fox News pulls reporter's item with fake Kerry quotes http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-02-fox-kerry_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2004 09:29 AM
funny. the line is blurring though, between truth and fiction. would people really believe that kerry said those things?i do appreciate a well-groomed man. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2004 11:53 AM
It seems to me the Kerry/Edwards ticket got off on the wrong foot in the first place. You are invited to vote for Kerry/Edwards because they have better hair. Now, a Fox reporter is in the dock for writing spoof material that was posted on the Internet. Well OK, let's compare the relative seriousness of that to Dan Rather/60 Minutes devoting a segment to a story about Bush based on forged government documents. A story in which Dan Rather, a Democrat fundraiser triangulated with the perpertrators, Bill Burkette and the Kerry campaign to bring the President down. Of course, we already know Democrats assign the same relative value to putting women's panties on terrorists heads and beheadings of civilians by terrorists. Absolutely...the very same thing...right! The road to Washington Eye on Edwards The road to Washington Published: Jul 7, 2004 Modified: Jul 7, 2004 7:16 PM Kerry, Edwards make first appearance By ROB CHRISTENSEN, STAFF WRITER CLEVELAND -- Declaring that they had formed a new "dream ticket," John Kerry and John Edwards made their first joint campaign appearances today, hoping to generate new electricity for Democrats' White House hopes. The two former presidential rivals sought quickly to build chemistry, clapping each other on the shoulders and sharing family stories. Kerry even hoisted Edwards' 4-year-old son, Jack, and carried him. "We think this is a dream ticket," said Kerry, the U.S. senator from Massachusetts who bested Edwards in the primaries."We've got a better vision. We've got real ideas....And we have better hair."......... http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/politicians/edwards/eyeonedwards /series/story/1404649p-7528047c.html IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2004 12:17 PM
well it wasnt just "some site" it was the foxnews site and it was intended to look like a real story lol.....(and the quote"And we have better hair" wasnt used)WASHINGTON (AP) — Fox News apologized Friday for posting phony quotes from Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry on its Web site. Carl Cameron, a Fox reporter who covers the Kerry campaign, wrote an item that looked like a news story with made-up Kerry quotes, said Paul Schur, a Fox spokesman. i liked the response...... "Asked about the incident, Kerry spokesman David Wade said: "America would be stronger if only George Bush could admit his mistakes as easily." it also wasnt just "some reporter" he's the foxnews CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT Carl Cameron Friday, August 06, 2004 As chief political correspondent for FOX News Channel (FNC), Carl Cameron is responsible for covering a broad range of stories, including presidential, congressional and gubernatorial elections. Cameron also covers all the breaking political news on Capitol Hill and in the courts. i DO agree with you about looking at the relative seriousness of situations though.... Q On February 5th, Colin Powell did not have enough confidence in that statement to include it in his presentation to the U.N. There was some vetting that was done between the President's speech and Mr. Powell's presentation to the U.N. Why then, if that -- if at that point we knew, you knew, or the administration knew that the information was not good, why then was that very scary accusation allowed to stand through the through the war? I mean, we didn't get this corrected until after the war. MR. FLEISCHER: It was corrected in March, when the part about yellow cake from Niger was looked into by the IAEA and that's when they reported it was based on forged documents. But we still do not know whether or not Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa....... http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030712-11.html IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2004 12:44 PM
For your information Petron and everyone else's too, the statement Bush made was the British had said Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake from Niger. A statement the British stand by to this day. A statement hashed over by a special inquiry in Britain where it was found by the inquiry that the BBC was over the line in their reporting and there was sufficient reason to believe the statement was true.For your further information, 500 tons of yellow cake were found in Iraq and for your further edification, about 2000 pounds of more highly refined uranium were removed from Iraq rather recently by the United States. Of course, we know this yellow cake and highly refined uranium was intended for Iraq's nuclear power generating plants, Iraq's nuclear subs and aircraft carriers and the production of watch hands that glow in the dark for their watch manufacturing plants. Dont we? IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2004 02:37 PM
im glad you brought up the Tuwaitha facility AGAIN jwhop, because i dont need edification but if this uranium, that was sealed up by the u.n. inspectors and LEFT IN IRAQ after the first gulf war was so dangerous, why would saddam "seek uranium from africa" and why, when Tuwaitha was 1 of the FIRST places that blix visited in his three month inspections immediatly prior to this invasion, why didnt the u.s. have the uranium removed then? lol and again....why didnt powell bring up africa? lol (because he had been informed the facts were really weak)WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said she feels "personal responsibility" for the flap over President Bush's State of the Union address, which included a discredited claim that Iraq had sought to buy uranium from Africa. ********The White House has since said intelligence was too weak to support the assertion. ********* http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/31/rice/ Q Dr. Rice, there are a lot of reports, apparently overnight, that CIA people had informed the NSC well before the State of the Union that they had trouble the reference in the speech. Can you tell us specifically what your office had heard, what you had passed along to the President on that?
DR. RICE: Now, I can tell you, if the CIA, the Director of Central Intelligence, had said, take this out of the speech, it would have been gone, without question. What we've said subsequently is, knowing what we now know, that some of the Niger documents were apparently forged, we wouldn't have put this in the President's speech -- but that's knowing what we know now. The President of the United States, we have a higher standard for what we put in presidential speeches We wouldn't put anything knowingly in the speech that was false; I'm sure they wouldn't put anything knowingly in the speech that was false. In this case, this particular line shouldn't have gotten in because it was not of the quality that we would put into presidential speeches" Q Dr. Rice, it sounds as if you're blaming the CIA here lol http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030711-7.html ***** quote: For your further information, 500 tons of yellow cake were found in Iraq and for your further edification, about 2000 pounds of more highly refined uranium were removed from Iraq rather recently by the United States.--jwhop
The nuclear material at the Tuwaitha facility, 12 miles south of Baghdad, had been monitored and inspected by the IAEA until the U.S.-led war But the facility was left unguarded after Iraqi troops fled the area on the eve of the war. Looters from surrounding villages stripped it of uranium storage barrels they later used to hold drinking water http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92018,00.html
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posted October 03, 2004 03:07 PM
quote: For your information Petron and everyone else's too, the statement Bush made was the British had said Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake from Niger-jwhop
jwhop dont you mean bush dubya said- quote: The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from AFRICA"bush dubya ........?????
or are you still backing the NIGER documents?
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2004 04:28 PM
What's your problem Petron? The President indicated the information about Saddam attempting to purchase uranium from Africa came from the British government.Or are you disputing that? You attempting to split hairs here Petron. You attempting to suggest that just because I didn't use the exact same language the President used that what I said is invalid in some way? The fact remains...the information about Saddam attempting to buy yellow cake from Africa came from the British. Bush did not in any way lie...neither did I. Niger is the source of uranium in Africa Petron. The mine is in Niger. Your nitpicking expedition is not appreciated. Now Petron, are you posting on another Linda Goodman site under a different screen name, a name I would recognize? Or are you posting here under a different screen name than you've used here in the past? IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2004 06:15 PM
nitpicking? lolfor some1 who lectures people here about "proof" and "sources" and "facts" you sure dissappoint me.... wow jwhop ive only asked you direct questions like numerous times over and over(with hardly a response), are you beginning to get perpetual de ja vu? i only posted an article about fox,you brought up the relative importance of forged documents and the Tuwaitha facility ... as for your "quote" of bush and your ominous warning about the uranium we "found" in iraq, it just represents the kind of unsourced tripe you sling at the walls here.....hoping something will stick lol ive read some of your other posts yes, but i know of no other "linda goodman sites" and i'm not using simultaneus usernames to dog you from multiple fronts if thats what youre saying....although it may seem that way but i dont know who laff or any1 else is.... lol.... but i think his "sources" are better than oh lets say........ THE SCHNITT SHOW
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2004 04:32 PM
OK Petron, that was definitely nitpicking. My point was that the President got the information about Saddam trying to get yellow cake from Africa from the British government. The President credited the report as coming from the British.So, what was your point in saying "jwhop dont you mean bush dubya said............? What I did say was not word for word but conveyed exactly the same information. quote: jwhop dont you mean bush dubya said-"The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from AFRICA"........?????
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posted October 04, 2004 07:51 PM
nitpicking??like admonishing me for calling wbush...bush jr..??loljwhop perhaps you werent aware of the contraversy concerning the 16 word lie(not the new 13 word lie you quoted) and that bush dubyas speech had been edited specifically to remove any reference to niger.... the british source on africa is still an unidentified third country whom the british wont disclose.... and so the cia reported later they also had "foreign intelligence" sources that implicated the REPUBLIC of congo and somalia as sources of uranium..... White House reveals report to bolster uranium claim Document tells of Iraq, Africa tie; includes State Department's misgivings From Dana Bash CNN Thursday, December 25, 2003
The newly released report, however, also included a dissenting view from the State Department's intelligence arm, the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, known as the INR. "The claims of Iraqi pursuit of natural uranium in Africa are, in INR's assessment, highly dubious," read the dissent, Another U.S. official said the intelligence on uranium in the NIE never rose to the level that it could be "stated flatly" by the United States. http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/19/sprj.irq.intel/ MR. FLEISCHER: Now, we've long acknowledged -- and this is old news, we've said this repeatedly -- that the information on yellow cake did, indeed, turn out to be incorrect. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030707-5.html#9
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posted October 04, 2004 07:55 PM
the Schnitt show is broadcast from your area by a guy with a morning fm show and a 3 hour am radio show right after rush limbaugh..... many of the things youve said here(especially about richard clarke*wmds) are like word for word repeats from him.....IP: Logged | |