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ozonefiller
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posted October 23, 2004 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Two Arrested for Hurling Pies at Columnist
Conservative Trashed Kerry, Liberals



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Columnist Ann Coulter

TUCSON, Ariz. (Oct. 22) - Two men ran onstage and threw custard pies at conservative columnist Ann Coulter as she was giving a speech at the University of Arizona, hitting her in the shoulder, police said.

University police arrested the men but did not release their identities.

In her half-hour speech Thursday night, Coulter trashed Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and derided liberals and Democrats while saluting conservative students who attended her speech.

Coulter writes a column for Universal Press Syndicate. Her appearance was sponsored by the UA College Republicans.

10/22/04 06:04 EDT


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Here's something that pretty much says it all and for those(of course)that will make rebuttles against what it is written can only go forth to agree that history only repeats itself, by only erasing it!

Ann Coulter — Dangerous Revisionist

Revisionism — it is a philosophy embraced by every totalitarian government that attempts to establish historical legitimacy. If the history books do not say what is needed to ensure complete and lasting control, burn them. Replace them with a new historical record — erase the past and seize the future.

We are not surprised when we read how Adolf Hitler invented a glorious Aryan history for the people of Germany. It is not too shocking to hear that Saddam Hussein rewrote the history of his people in order to claim that he is a direct descendant of Babylonian kings.

Keeping this in mind, does the Republican Party really need to have the history of American politics rewritten to exonerate Senator Joseph McCarthy from the disgrace he brought upon them during what has become known as the “McCarthy Era”?

For those of you who neither lived during the 1950s nor have studied American History, Joseph Raymond McCarthy was a Republican U.S. senator (1947–1957 who instigated highly publicized Senate hearings in the early 1950s into alleged Communist subversion of the U.S. government. His often-unsubstantiated charges and extreme methods led to a Senate censure and political disgrace for himself and several other politicians of the time.

McCarthy used unsubstantiated accusations and unfair methods of investigation to discredit people who worked for the U.S. government or in the entertainment industry. While he did not serve in the House, he has come to typify political investigations of those who were suspected of being “un-American” by the House Un-American Activities Committee. Those who refused to appear before the committee or cooperate fully were often blacklisted, denied employment, housing, and the freedom to freely associate with others. McCarthy brought focus on these practices when he attempted to use theSenate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Senate Committee on Government Operations as a platform to rid the U.S. Army of suspected communists. This resulted in his being censured and rightfully vilified.

Revisionist Totalitarianism

Ann Coulter does more than attempt to clear McCarthy’s name in her new book, Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism, she endorses a totalitarian philosophy that is, ironically, the antithesis of our American values.

In Coulter’s world, there is no room for debate. When challenged, she engages in typical demagoguery. Certainly, she would argue that comparing her writing style to that of dictators and propagandists is a “liberal” tactic. Anyone who does not follow her personal agenda is a “liberal” whether they are Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, socialist, environmentalist, or a freethinking Republican.

Plain and simple, Coulter does not fight a fair fight. She chose the subject of her historical revision to her advantage. Most of those who lived through the McCarthy area are no longer living and cannot debate the issues she presents. After 50 years, too much time has passed to reexamine these events completely and accurately.

In a recent television interview, Coulter defended her book by stating that all history books are written by liberals and with her book she has undone a great injustice. This statement is hardly worth comment except that it gives us a strong indication that Coulter is either a clumsy prevaricator or simply insane.

It appears as if Coulter has misinterpreted the growing interest in conservatism and the successes of the GOP in recent elections as a shift toward totalitarianism — in which a single political party exists without opposition and rules over political, economic, social, and cultural life.

Perhaps she is waiting in the wings for the moment that George W. Bush calls her forth to rewrite the pages of history like some kind of modern day Leni Riefenstahl. (Yes, I am aware that Coulter compared Katie Couric to Eva Braun.)

Sorry, Ann. Your services and your black-hearted propaganda are not needed by this President — and hopefully none in the near future. It is disappointing to see so many young people being influenced by this woman’s words. They are words that are meant to tear down opportunities for cooperation, breed intolerance, and — above all — sell books.

What many people do not realize it that Coulter’s hypothesis has been seen before. Thirty years ago, it was not the “liberals” who were demonized for framing poor Joe McCarthy — it was the Jews. There is probably little distinction between Jews and liberals in Ann Coulter’s world. She simply knows that she must employ a euphemism in order to sell her books. They are a lighter, sanitized, and more palatable version of the anti-Jewish propaganda of the past.

In her previous book, Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right, Coulter put forth that liberals control the media — sound familiar? It is the recurring claim that Jews control the media skewed a bit for a newer audience of often young and under-educated Republicans.

If people keep buying the garbage Coulter churns out, in 30 years time we can expect her to rewrite the history of Nixon and Watergate. In Coulter’s version, Nixon will be the victim of a communist conspiracy, the tapes will be cleaver fakes, and most of those who witnessed the events will not be here to dispute it.

Damaging the Conservative Cause

For many of us who hold conservative views, the recent shift in the country’s politics has been too long in coming. However, there is no guarantee that the next election will not put liberal Democrats back in power. The 2002 election was not a landslide and control of Congress is about as narrow as it could be.

Why do conservatives buy books that call those with liberal views “un-American” or “traitors”? Perhaps it is the novelty of finally being in the driver’s seat. After eight years of Clinton, many young voters have never experienced a Republican president. It feels good to be a winner — however ungracious.

When Republicans embrace ugly, pointless rhetoric like that being marketed by Ann Coulter, it only increases the chances that the next U.S. president will be a woman named Hillary.

-SENTRYOFDOOM : AOL member

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Though alot of people will argue that the accusation by this author is either "nonsense, divel, BS", I can't seem to help myself from this feeling that I've been having that the subject that the thread(that I've found this at)holds some sort of profound foreshadowing of things to come!

Two...two sentences that can not only rectify the possible outcomes of one leading the other, but the question remains in the bottom of my heart: "Is it the end of the world as we know it?"

Now before anybody starts jumping into conclusions to the question that I have just asked(because of the fact that the sentence does have another meaning to it), look at the question again and maybe what I'm trying to say and hopefully the rest of this post can broaden areas that I don't think that the most of us even realize...

The two sentences that I'm about to say is this: If Kerry wins, from the claims of the Bush adminastration, we will have another attack on America at stake!

(Is this a threat on us by an adminstration?)

And the second sentence is: If Bush wins, American can possibly look forward to of either a second civil war or maybe even worse then that, a possible WWIII!

(Though it won't seem like it right away for the time being, a 'sign of the times' can only be that of the accurences of multiple events have taken place, that have repeated themselves time and time again, all compile into one given time...)

Give and take, it's not all events will take place right away over the possible outcome that I'm adhered, but I do see that maybe everything is going rather backwards and not really forwards at all!

This woman...this Ann Coulter frightens me greatly, for not only what she says and writes, but to a great astonishment, she reminds me of another columnist and commentator, one of the 9/11 victims, the late Barbara Olson. Funny, during the very short few years that Olson spent in the lime light(from either her being on CNN or her books that have bashed the Clintons,etc), it took me a while to find anything on her other then her faced with her tragic fate, this is what I did finally come up with on her:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,601056,00.html

I've been really reading up on the events of 9/11 for the past couple weeks(doing my own investigating) and I see alot more horrors then that meet the eyes, to the broadcast images from the back of my mind, to the empty void feeling from the bottom of my heart, to the imagined screams and crys of those moments that fill my ears, till my soul has reached into that state of intoxication of the event that I was witnessing again once more, but not of that.. to that.. I was onlooking during that... one sunny morning in the lobby of the veterans hospital in Columbus Ohio(that is were I was at the time), I was there, at Ground Zero on September 11th 2001, this time around!

Now, I "look to the west" and I see to me that things are unfolding before my very eyes, events that have not accured, but this doesn't mean that they have to, even though(lately,from I have seen so far) these things might take place as certain to my predictions that I have of this post's possible reproach, I think that I am witnessing history at the making and that America will sooner or later become apart of that history, everything that we ever had before these dark and misable fours years, is no longer here and the world that we have once knew, no longer exists, it's only a matter of time before all that we know about of(that is before us) will all fade away and the only thing that it is holding onto it, is within our own memories, until the time too for us will join in and fade away with the rest of everything!

It's like the brief teaching that I have received from a man that had deep knowledge of that of the Shamans has pointed out to me many years ago and this is what he had to say:

"O' bright and fiery ball, the Sun as it may, in constant brightness and changes of positions as it may can never be witnessed of such(even though we know it is true), can only be seen once and with that it will be the very last thing we'll ever see again, if only dare to do so! How it always knows how to reach and take the waters to it's grasp and hold onto it in mid air and then release it back from where it came, some enjoy such!

O' Water and Stone, how the both of you brothers always tend to contrast against eachother to win your battles for the directions that you wish to be? As you Water always chisel and dig at the rock that holds you, but resticts you from the direction that you want to go to, but you'll win, it just only takes so much time! And you Stone only enjoy to stay as you may, even though you endure the Water's impasses, you give him the direction that he will only go anyway!

O' long blades of grass, how you make way for the trees, though you complain to lose most precious space that you have once obtained, can the pain only be restored back to it's goodness for the shade the trees can offer to you, to hide your heads from the burning sun, most honored is that of it's present time, or do you still prefer your space that have quenched the ones before you, so long ago?

O' living creatures of the Earth, how you once were and will never be again, though you dwell in mostly water and you stand on many grounds, I make you up as fire, for you equip and establish yourselves and then you go away for a time and yet come back again in another place, through time and space. And though you make your mark and that you are felt amongst us, even when your gone your presence has still made it's point, for a little while, until other fires intrude onto your buriel place and make your name disappear, your work will be repeated again, as such as yourself!"

And to think that America will be forever...

...but there will be something like it again, some other sunny day!

As they say, "History repeats itself" and I think that so do we.

The title to this post doesn't seem like anything that I have talked about just now and I think that I just wanted to leave that part out until the very end of this post. I've mentioned about the fact that I was doing a little bit of investigating of 9/11 and I just want to show you the reasons why I did. I was looking at some footage and photos of that day and of the events that have taken place, one picture caught my eye and it has sent chills up and down my spine when I looked even closer into that picture. Indeed it was pointed out to me and I have seen this photo maybe about a hundred times before, but I never noticed the oddity of the picture until I was directed to look closer! To take note, this picture was made as a case to the FEMA report and I'm sure it was too with the 9/11 commission, what's in this photo scared the crap out of me and I wanted to find out more about what entails into it!

Here's the photo of the beautiful dead woman in the live ugly scar:

Now has anybody ever noticed this? Look closer at the picture and see if you can find the woman in it!

Here's the link that talks about it with it's own theory about the collapse of the towers!

http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/collapse.htm
QUESTION: What happened to the explosion on Tower 1? If it was too hot in those buildings, why was that woman standing there?

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trillian
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posted October 23, 2004 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I'm looking at the same thing you're looking at, I have to wonder if it's really a woman, or an optical illusion. I'd like to see that zoomed in with proper resolution.

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ozonefiller
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posted October 23, 2004 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I really don't know how to go about making out a copy of the photo after I have fix it so that people would be able to see what I'm talking about, I can only do that onto my PC in general, but it doesn't look like any kind of optical illusion from the manipulation I can use on my PC.

What kills me about this photo the most is that the woman seems sort of serene, kind of confident that someone was going to save her or something, but we all know what ended up happening instead...

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posted October 23, 2004 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm on a different PC now, and I think I can more clearly see what you're talking about...but my screen at home is much better, so later on I'll take another peek.

I had been looking at a different spot entirely.

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posted October 23, 2004 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just slowly trace along the bottom of the scar, just to the lower edge of it, she will look really, really small in the picture. I think that the idea was to show how large the scar was in comparison to the size of what a person would look like, but FEMA (I think) argued over the fact about how the collapse might have accured and tried to point out that if it was fire and heat(almost 3000 degrees) that melted the inner frame, then how was it that this woman was standing there seemingly uneffected by the heat in the building?!

You would think that even being below the burning floors and with that kind of temperture, she wouldn't even have any hair left on her head! If you look closely, you can tell that she was a blonde!

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posted October 23, 2004 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ann Coulter is the most dangerous woman in the world...to liberals.

Sooner or later, Coulter gets around to puncturing each and every fantasy of the left. She's been a very busy lady.

Being brain cell challenged, they dare not engage Coulter directly in any kind of intellectual debate on the issues. Outgunned intellectually and facts challenged, they must snipe at Coulter from the cheap seats.

So like the Toy Poodles they are, their only recourse is to reach up and attempt to bite her ankles or throw pies to shut her up, as two Kerryites did the other day when Coulter was demolishing their favorite traitor, John Kerry.

True, these cowardly Kerryites had the advantage in their physical confrontation with Coulter but only because Coulter was dressed appropriately for her appearance, including high heels and of course, there were 2 of them.

Still, they threw their pies at Coulter, then ran like hell. Lucky for them Coulter wasn't dressed in filthy tennis shoes and baggy jeans like the drivel spouting Marxists who are normally invited to speak on college campuses. Hello Michael Moore

My personal opinion is that dressed appropriately for a physical confrontation, Coulter would have chased them down and beat the hell out of them.

Those cowardly Kerryites didn't get out unscathed though. I guess they forgot who Coulter's audience was...young Republicans and not metrosexual girlie men. They did chase the little cowards down and some reports indicate they left some skin and body fluids at the point of capture.

One day, I'm sure Coulter will get around to validating one of the reasons Kerry said Americans should vote Kerry/Edwards, the only truthful reason Kerry gave.

They do have better hair.

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posted October 23, 2004 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JW, this is a woman that actually gives the word "Repuke" a meaning, you underscore yourself my friend, if you call what she does as writing, then you even would be able to kick her out of the literary business by far choice!

Anything(so far that I have seen out of her writing skills)is not out of any kind of investications into fact finding or even into any kind of accuracy at that of what she even is talking about or knows what she is even talking about, the only thing that is really sound in her so-called journalism, is just selling an opinion and putting it into hard cover, but that is all that it is: her opinion!

Sheesh, I get better hate e-mail that is more articulate, that you would think that came from no other then "gutter trash" and that is all that she seems to know how to write about, along with "her opinion" is her proficuous hate! She doesn't give a damn who wins this election, all she cares about is selling another piece of her crap in hopes that it will be on paperback by Christmas!

Her words are not even worth any Democrat's attention, not to mention fear to anything.

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posted October 23, 2004 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ozone, any use of the word accuracy in your posts is a direct and frontal assault on the English language.

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posted October 23, 2004 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geee! Maybe I should take my accuracy to Newsmax.com then, what do you think?

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You Go Ozone!!! I do not have time now to read all of your post but read half of it. Will finish it later this evening. But I also think that we are at a turning point in our world and the decisions and choices we make at this time will determine the destiny of our civilization world wide. Our choices will also define America who is obviously a big player in the destiny of our world.

Great post, ozone. Filled with a lot of thought and insight.

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posted October 23, 2004 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I don't see a small woman... but I did find an illusion of a woman's head that is as large as half the scar. It appears to be inside the building. If you look up and to the right where the bright red area is you should see the appearence of an eye. Has a ghostly appearence.

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I can't find any woman either Philbird...

Love,
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posted October 23, 2004 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried to post an edited pic, but couldn't make it work, sorry. The woman is in the middle of the hole, she's very small compared to the wreckage. She's wearing a light-colored suit, and looks more brunette than blonde to me.

Some of the wreckage just above her head resembles some sort of giant machinery...

Again, she is almost exactly in the middle of the photo, in the middle of the hole...part of her is partially obscured by one of the bent and broken 'pillars' from the outer part of the WTC.

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I LOVE this thread! This is terrific!

No, there is no woman in the picture. I have examined it myself, and it is debris which "appears" to resemble a woman.

Just so we have our facts straight.

However.....

How about that Pentagon building, eh?

No wings? Nada mas?

Laff

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posted October 23, 2004 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Trillian, she looks like as if she is leaning up against the "pillar" siding, like as if she's trying to make it as far out to the edge as much as possibly, so it would be easier for the helicopter to reach her or something.

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Jwhop,

What did you think of Jon Stewart calling Tucker Carlson a dick on Crossfire? Jon Stewart does butt sniff John Kerry including many comedians and celebrities. Have you noticed the amount of celebrities endorsing Kerry? For all of their wit, why are comedians always liberal?

-StarLover

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Who cares who called whom a dick?

Maybe he is a dick?

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I didn't ask you LibraSparkle, I asked Jwhop, and it does matter. It shows that the media is dominated by the left and not vice versa as some want to claim. Al Franken comes to mind.

-StarLover

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Some of these celebrites need to jump into a black hole and cease to exist when they spew out their ignorance in the most LOUDEST way.

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posted October 23, 2004 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, I've heard that said so many times and I don't understand it. So celebrities shouldn't express their opinions? How about any of the rest of us? We should just not have any opinions because we're not a part of the government?
I'm sorry, politicians and lawmakers don't have degrees in every single subject under the sun, yet they still make policies that affect all the rest of us ... policies and laws that relate to all those other subjects that they are not experts on.
This is a republic, by the people, for the people. If you're going to look down on people for speaking their minds, as in freedom of speech ... a constitutional right, then maybe you belong in a country like Cuba or China where nobody is allowed to express any opinion contrary to the government at all. (Not directed at any one person in particular, just addressing the notion itself.)

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Starlover33, don't you think that's a bit off-topic? The topic here is "woman sticking her head out of a burning WTC building."

Starlover, if you want to speak to JWhop, why not just start a new thread? Or did you assume JWhop would find your post here? He isn't omnipresent, you know.

Oh, and if you are going to insult "liberals" or toss labels around, please specify what it is you think "liberals" do and don't believe in as opposed to yourself. Otherwise, your hatred of "liberals" is unjustified.

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posted October 24, 2004 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I don't know if this can help or not, but I think that I've done the best that I can for were it's at!

Try to take the smaller photo and compare it to to the larger one and then I hope that you can see what I'm talking about.

I put a circle around the woman in the smaller photo, just to give you an idea where she is at!


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/862931/File0001.jpg

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posted October 24, 2004 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all: Starlover what is what your trying to say have to do with the subject on this thread in the first place? Couldn't you have created a new thread for your whining?

Second: It's Republicans like you that doesn't want the rest of America to practice they're first Amendment rights unless they themselves are conservative to the extreem and that's why we think you people are pushing for a 4th Reich!

Third: That's right Eleanore and that is why we see that more and more the Repukes moving closer to those countries, with they're jobs, businesses, family settings, vacation spot, etc. But they say that WE'RE the Communist! When are people going to see that they are putting us on?!

And finally: You ask why comedians and celebrities are liberal Starlover, maybe that's because liberals and libertarians were born with a soul and it came with a personality included and we're pretty good at using it, without having to distribute cruelity to the rest of the world, just to show that we are entertaining and funny with peaceful measures!


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I found the woman in the picture. She appears to be wearing a light blue suit coat or dress and her hair does look brown or auburn. Don't know if it is an optical illusion or not. Could be debris as suggested. Maybe she looked serene because she was in shock, Ozone.

Right after 9/11 a TV News station in Colorado showed a picture taken from more distance than this one and it had an evil laughing face on the side of the tower. Or at least it looked like a face. I think it was an illusion created by smoke. The picture was out over the internet.

The worse sights from 9/11 that reall struck me hard were the people falling out of the building to their deaths. Horrible. Hard to get that image out of your mind.

The pie incident was probably staged by the RNC so they could blame it on the liberals and the Kerry supporters. Would not surprise me one bit. Not after this campaign. At any rate she was not hurt and if it was some "liberals" who hated her why didn't they throw something harder? They must have been real bad shots to miss her. And no I do not condone the act.

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My guess as to why all the "liberals" are comedians is because the "conservative right" have no sense of humor, Star. They have tight butts with sticks up them and their noses are always in the air so they can look down on everyone else while they are labeling and judging them.

PS. Star being a moderator you should know that if you don't want anyone else to answer you on the thread then ask jwhop in private conversation.

ELENORE YOU GO GIRL!!!! A BIG AMEN TO ALL YOU SAID IT IS SO TRUE.

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