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jwhop
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posted November 04, 2004 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Notice all the red, even in the Blue states.

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ozonefiller
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posted November 04, 2004 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geee, WOW! I didn't realize that JW, I bet that with the amount of people that live in most of the red areas of America, you can walk stark naked down any of those roads for 5 miles and not one of those conservatives will be around to even notice!

It must be very lonely being a Republican!

The blue areas however only show that the left will always stick together no matter what!

In fact, thank you JW, for the information on what areas to go to next election! I bet that LS, Harpyr and I with just only the three of us, we'll win Nebraska for the next Democrat with ease!

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Lost Leo
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posted November 04, 2004 05:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see good old SD & OC are red

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pidaua
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posted November 04, 2004 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ozone,

Those lonely Republicans you are speaking of are exactly the ones that own acres of farm / ranch land. In fact, if it wasn't for those many lonely Republicans owning that land and raising our food we would be eating pesticide filled veges and hormone riddled meat from foreign countries.

Those lonely Pubbies wake up at the crack of dawn, working almost 365 days a year and still owe money to the bank in order to put food on our tables. They get called racists, Christian radicals, greedy land owners and yet they still perform their chores day after day to make this country as good as it is.

Still...I would NOT advise walking around naked in them there parts LOL.....

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jwhop
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posted November 04, 2004 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South Dakota is red but not as red as Tom Daschle's face

They don't get it and I guess they are genetically incapable of understanding that America rejects socialism.

Right now, the left is busy mis-analyzing the reasons for Kerry, their candidates loss. They think it was the religious fundamentalist right who elected Bush.

What they fail to understand is that most of us reject their ideas about government, economic policy, foreign policy and cultural issues.

Most of all, we reject the notion that people like them, people who couldn't find their $sses with both hands have anything to teach the rest of us about anything at all.

I expect the left to continue to make the same mistake, election after election until there are no socialists left in Congress. Well, that's too much to hope for because there will always be the densely populated centers of those eager for a handout from government but as you can see from the map, most of the country is more Republican than ever.

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ozonefiller
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posted November 04, 2004 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if I told you JW that Jesus Christ was a socialist?

It's a clear fact, American Republicans love to pray for him, but they never ever want to agree with him! They usually end up siding with Herod instead!

Yep, I'm sure that your working on a farm right now making ends meat, right Pid? I can picture you on your hands and knees milking cows at this point!

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 04, 2004 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jesus was a Moderate. He was not Liberal or Conservative. He both agreed and disagreed with points from both sides.

Guess that means the only person here even close to Jesus is ... TINK

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ozonefiller
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posted November 04, 2004 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean by that LS, I like Jesus!

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 04, 2004 08:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh?

I simply meant that Jesus was not a Liberal (Socialist) nor was he a Conservative. He was neither and both. He was Moderate.

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ozonefiller
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posted November 04, 2004 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jesus had some pretty socialist teachings LS, more then the conservatives want to admit!

I get a kick out of the fact that the conservatives likes to categorize people by the way they act towards others through they're "moral values", but the fact only remains that no matter how much "God" a person thinks that they have inside of themselves, they too will be able to hurt and abuse others in the most lowest ways imaginable!

Did anybody say "Jim Bakker"?

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Mirandee
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posted November 07, 2004 01:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In fact, if it wasn't for those many lonely Republicans owning that land and raising our food we would be eating pesticide filled veges and hormone riddled meat from foreign countries.

Hallo! Pidua, you must be watching too many "Real McCoys" reruns. We ARE eating pesticide filled veggies and hormone riddled meat not only from foreign countries but from those red state farmers who pump up the chickens and beef with hormones and spray the crops with pesticides.

Jwhop you are dreaming with that map. Where did you get it? The RNC? For instance, in Michigan ( pidua in case you don't know it is the state that looks like a mitten) anyway, in Michigan unless the trees voted in this election there are no populations at all in large areas that your map shows in red. Outside of SE Michigan in the metro Detroit area, which makes up the largest percentage of the population in Michigan, and the large cities in the southern part of the Lower Peninsula, and over by Lake Michigan, the rest of Michigan is pretty much small towns and woods. In the Upper Peninsula what you have covered with red is the Hiawatha National Forest. You might be able to fill up an IHOP with the whole population of people in the UP and that is questionable. The rest of the UP is Lake Superior -which I'm happy to see you didn't have voting for Bush as well- and woods with bears and wolves and small animals. Unless the animals voted you have those woods covered with red too. As for most of Michigan amongst the woods there are very small towns with very small populations.

I see on the east and west coasts and you also have the mountain ranges voting for Bush.

America rejects socialism,jwhop now in favor of fascism and a dictatorship. Must be those farmers are inhaling too much of their pesticides.

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KarenSD
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posted November 07, 2004 02:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sincerely,
KarenSD, a long-time Green Party member who voted for Kerry

(Confidential to Lost Leo: we're not all "R" 's here in San Diego)

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Mirandee
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posted November 07, 2004 02:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In fact, Jesus was quite radical for his time. He not only talked to women and taught them which was a big no no with the Jews of his time, he made women his disciples as well.

He confronted the powers that be of his time and called them hypocrites. He told them they liked to parade around in robes putting on a pious act but inside they were far from God.

Jesus not only rocked the boat often he turned the whole damn thing upside down.

He didn't exclude anyone. Something the Republicans should remember when they attack minority groups and attempt to make them social outcasts. His whole teaching was on helping the poor and less fortunate in society. Something else the Republicans should remember. He didn't attempt to disenfranchise minority groups either. He said he came for the sinners. Something else the holier than thou Republicans and Religious Right should remember. And the main thing they should remember is that Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." Jerry Farwell and Pat Robinson should consider that with all the stones they cast.

Regarding the separation of church and state think of this one: Jesus said, " Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render unto God the things that are Gods." He made a definite distinction there between the two.

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 07, 2004 02:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh whatever, you guys. Jesus was no Liberal...

He wasn't a Conservative either.

Sorry. There's no way anyone can claim Jesus is on their side. He's been dead for 2000ish years. I don't think we have any voting records from that far back

Even though he wasn't a Liberal or a Conservative, he seemed to have held strong to values that each side identifies with. Not just one or the other.

As I said, Jesus was neither a Liberal nor a Conservative... yet he was both.

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miss_apples
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posted November 07, 2004 02:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you LS

All these bumper stickers I see saying that God or Jesus is a Liberal or conservative, they really upset me. Like Jesus and God want to be dragged in our petty human political arguments like that. Who are we to speak for God?

And since when do only conservatives own farms?

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Mirandee
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posted November 07, 2004 07:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the Webster's Dictionary the definition for liberal is:

suitable for a freeman, generous, bountiful, not literal, not narrow in opinion or judgment, tolerant, not orthodox, not conservative.

Jesus wasn't all of those things? What Bible are you guys reading?

But I agree with you in that Jesus is neither a Republican or a Democrat. But he was both liberal and conservative and even radical. He wasn't white with blue eyes either. As for not getting involved in the politics of the world - this is God's world. I think God cares very much who the leaders of nations are and what they do to his world and the people in it.

One thing Jesus wasn't was an advocate of war. He isn't called the Prince of Peace for nothing. He would say that killing people is not going to change the world for the better. He would say love is the only thing that is going to change the world.

God doesn't love us more than he loves the Muslims and Islamic people. He doesn't love us more than he loves Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden either. God loves all of us equally no matter what we do because Jesus taught a forgiving God. Even on the cross he said "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."

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OKANGEL
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posted November 07, 2004 09:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

I am wondering

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TINK
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posted November 07, 2004 10:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahem ... Why thank you LibraSparkle. I'm just glad someone finally noticed.

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jwhop
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posted November 07, 2004 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The map is a county by county report of how voters in that county voted.

This site says there are 3143 counties, parishes and independent cities in the US and lists the number of counties in each states.
http://www.n9jig.com/counties/county.html

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miss_apples
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posted November 08, 2004 01:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didnt say God didnt care who we chose as our leaders and I certanly didnt say God loves us more than he loves Sadam and Osama. What I said was I really cant see God wanting to get dragged into our petty political arguments meaning the way we are using him and his name to prove our points to the other side. Such as the "God was a Liberal" and "God is a Conservative" bumper stickers are doing, using his name to basically attack other people...of BOTH sides.

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ozonefiller
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posted November 08, 2004 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And here's another "real" election map!

Gee JW, both my state and your state are both the same color, how is that?!

In fact, the most Republican state just so happens to be Utah, but that's because they believe that a marriage should be between a man and women! They still like that old idea of having a harem just like them darn heathen Muslims do, ya know like the ones we're fightin'!

So, it's a proven fact, the electorial college system doesn't work!

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ozonefiller
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posted November 08, 2004 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioneye stated that Canada wanted to become apart of the United States, something to do with the fact that Canadians are tired of the way they're government is ran and wants to be like Republicans, too bad she wouldn't ever expect this!

How about if she settled for a Democrian?!

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jwhop
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posted November 10, 2004 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1492 Déjà Vu - America Rediscovered
John L. Perry
Wednesday, Nov. 10, 2004


The year 2004 should go down in history as the advent of the Rediscovery of America. If not, we’re in a helluva lot of trouble.
It’s time to relive the discovery of America – only this time with Americans, not Europeans, doing the discovering.

Reelection of George W. Bush as president of the United States has produced an instructive updating of the 2000 election map showing the blue (Democratic) states and the red (Republican) states.

Feeling Their Pain

This has given acute gas pains to left-wing Democratic history-revisionists, who say it’s misleading. They’re right, too. It is misleading.

There isn’t a single one of the 50 states colored either blue or red in which everyone voted Democratic or everyone voted Republican. Yet, that’s what the blue/red map of states appears to assert.

If the leftists think that map does them a cruel disservice, they need to consult yet another map to come out of the 2004 presidential election. It’s even worse, from their perspective.

Counties Tell the Story

This map, too, is blue and red – only on this map the colors are by counties, not by states. And it’s enough to curdle the blood of the lefties. It’s far-more accurate than the blue/red map of states.

On the counties map, for example, California isn’t all blue. Instead, it shows that far-left fringe of blue counties where John Kerry got more votes than Bush. The greatest chunk of California, geographically, shows up as mostly solid-red counties.

Granted, Death Valley, with virtually zero population other than horned toads, appears solid red. As do all those red counties side by side through middle America that undeniably contain far-smaller populations than the blue counties clustered around Los Angeles, Chicago and New York.

An Undeniable Win, Win

Still, all those blue counties when added together fell short – by 3.5 million votes – of besting Bush’s red counties’ popular votes. The same goes for the resulting electoral vote.

This is not the America that took its own electoral pulse in recent elections. Something’s going on here, and it’s rather obvious to those, on the right as well as on the left, who are willing to see:

America is not on the left, not even in the center leaning left. It is in center-right. That’s why this column began forecasting months ago that Bush would win by a substantial majority.

Say It Isn’t So

The reaction by America’s leftist mass-comm to all this has been a near-hysterical exercise in clinical denial. It just couldn’t be. And if it was, it was only because – to echo Garrison Keillor, about as laid-back a leftist as there is running around loose – “the insane” (read Bush and friends) had manipulated “the ignorant” (read anyone voting for Bush who was supposed to have voted for Kerry).

The New York Times, ever alert to distort reality into looking like the way it wants things to be, published two morose post-election stories. One confirmed its skewed view that New York was populated by distraught losers who now see Manhattan as an island isolated off the coast of Europe. The other story stigmatized Californians as stumbling around in a stupor, unable to explain why they failed to convince the rest of the country to adopt their flat-earth view of life.

All of that of course is utter nonsense.

It’s Rediscovery Time

What the blue/red counties map does reflect is the manifest need for Americans of all political convictions to shut up, settle down and take a long, deep rational look at their own country – all of it.

What they will find is what some of us have seen for quite some time:


Not everyone living in the blue counties is amoral, possessed of no ethical values, sneering at the rubes residing in cookie-cutter cornfield communities who aren’t sophisticated enough to prefer to exist in high-crime, hypertensive, ultra-expensive, drug-infested metropolises.

Not everyone living in red counties is a fire-and-brimstone evangelical frothing at the mouth at the very idea of dwelling in the same country, not to mention the same neighborhood, with anyone even remotely of a different ethnic, religious or linguistic upbringing.

The larger truth is Americans, from blue or red counties, have more in common with one another than they have differences.

This became dramatically evident when all of America saw New Yorkers, their fellow Americans, performing heroic acts of selflessness in the awful hours after terrorists struck on Sept. 11, 2001.

New Yorkers watched with understanding appreciation as children all across this land took up collections for them and Southern cities bought fire trucks and drove them up to Manhattan as gifts of gratitude.

It was not Hispanic Americans who gave Bush his victory. Or evangelical Americans. Or Jewish Americans. Or African Americans. Or Ohio Americans. Or Florida Americans. It was Americans – nearly 60 million of us, of all hues and habitats.

Any combination of those could have denied Bush reelection had they stayed home or voted no. But they didn’t, and that’s the point.

This whole preposterous preoccupation with voter groups is a farce – as if Americans vote in blind uniformity by artificial groupings.

Americans vote as individual Americans – not all alike, certainly, but actually more alike than not alike.

This country is not split, if by that is means down the middle or close to it. Nor is it divided, as if there are only two points of view on the table.

Rather, America is a countless multiplicity of highly individualistic points of view on an endless array of subjects.

What motivates some Americans to one viewpoint is not what motivates others to the same viewpoint.

There are a zillion different sub-publics – not ever “the public,” as opinion pollsters seem to think. And each of us, from the moment we wake up until we fall asleep again, pops up from time to time in one after another of those sub-publics.

And when we do appear in one of those sub-publics we are in the company of like-minded Americans who come from a myriad of backgrounds different from our own. Indeed, this may be the only time during the day or night we are co-occupants of any sub-public with those same people.
There’s something rather magical – certainly typically American – about this phenomenon. It’s what came into play on Nov. 2, 2004.

It’s what political pollsters, far-left Democrats and far-right Republicans can’t get through their ideological noggins.

But the whopping majority of the American people get it, though not always, but they certainly got it on election day in 2004.

Only Radical Eradication Will Do

If Democrats expect ever again for decades to gain back the White House and both houses of Congress, they’re going to have to toss their ideologues over the side and begin their own rediscovery of America.

Same for Republicans if they want to keep this ball rolling.

What both camps are going to find is that the true governing majority in this country is not wedded to any political ideology.

The party that opens its heart, its mind and its door to those Americans who don’t always pop up in the same sub-public with them will become the party of this New America.

It’s the GOP’s to Lose

Republicans have the best shot at this, for, thanks to the inclusive leadership of President Bush, they began rediscovering America this year. If they should go back to thinking of America as it was two, three and four decades ago, then forget it.

But right now they hold the advantage of rediscovery.

The reality-blind people who command the Democratic Party, as currently constructed, are still too busy slamming doors, minds and hearts.

They won’t keep digging themselves into that hole forever. So Republicans need to get cracking.

A Capital Idea

Bush has it figured out correctly. He knows he earned immense political capital in this election. Now he intends to waste no time by sitting on it.

Unlike with money, the more you invest your political capital, the more you have of it.

That just may be the first lesson Republicans can learn as they embark on their exploration of the New America.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/10/85045.shtml

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posted January 20, 2005 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those lonely Republicans you are speaking of are exactly the ones that own acres of farm / ranch land. In fact, if it wasn't for those many lonely Republicans owning that land and raising our food we would be eating pesticide filled veges and hormone riddled meat from foreign countries.

AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE SLAVES WHO WORKED THE LAND BEFORE THEM THE LAND WOULDN'T BE SO RICH HUH?

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