posted November 24, 2004 02:20 PM            

I don't HATE you..hate is too emotionally charged and takes up too much of my time. I don't even dislike you- I dislike intensely some of what you say- for reasons I have already noted.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me- it provides a method of debate where both parties can learn from each other. I devour the stats and facts and even opinions from other people. I think about those things and then decide what applies to me - that is reason and logic. It doesn't make me better or worse than other people.

For the record, I hate butt-kissers..and to my knowledge there is NO ONE here that does that- which is why I have been a member for so long. I like that there are people that have many different views.

I value TINK, LS, Harypr, 26Taurus...etc...that can be friendly but strongly political or strong on their views of other things. To me, that demonstrates that they are wanting to learn just like me - without hating the person with different views.

The only thing I can't stand is when someone posts mean-spirited "pseudo-facts" just to get people going..it is there right..and I don't want to infringe on their freedoms by getting it stopped- BUT I will post a counter to their claims. That is just me- sometimes it is to get the ball rolling, sometimes it is just because it sickens me to see one side unjustly vilified by opinions misconstrued as facts.

posted November 26, 2004 10:35 AM            

Ozone, just for the record, and because you suggest your comment was not directed at women, I'd like you to go on the record and tell us how many men you hang with wear panties?

quote:

---

You Repukes are just always jumping the gun, now are you? If you look back at my posts, you'll see that I wasn't implying to any sex or even species at that matter when I was talking about cellulite, @$$ size or what panties look like, I could have been talking about an elephant in a circus of all you guys know! The ONLY thing that I've commented about women is the fact that the right don't like me on where I stand on issues, if you want equality, nethier do the men on the right as well! So much for trying to discredit me, try again!

---

miss_apples, I've been insulted by experts. I didn't perceive any insult in what you said. Now that the election is over, perhaps I can slow down and type Democrat....when I mean Democrat

posted November 26, 2004 03:17 PM            

Hey JW, if you want to sit here and play "tite for tate" with me about who said what, when and where, I think I can count on enough of time collecting ammo that you left a path for me to capture of the notorious and crude statements that you've made to others in the past, you know, the ones that Randall(and everybody else on your side) keeps running to your defense over?!

Believe you and me JW, you've dropped some pretty heavy bombs on people before, including myself!

posted November 26, 2004 06:11 PM            

quote:

---

Hmmmmm! Grandma panties with pink polka dots and the @$$ of the size of Nebraska and cellulite to match it's terrain, which can be seen from the USS Enterprise in "outer space"!

---

quote:

---

Believe me JW, when it comes to female Repukes, they've lost heart of me without they're cellulite, @$$ size or they're panties, I think it has more to do with the fact of where I stand on issues more!

---

quote:

---

You Repukes are just always jumping the gun, now are you? If you look back at my posts, you'll see that I wasn't implying to any sex or even species at that matter when I was talking about cellulite, @$$ size or what panties look like, I could have been talking about an elephant in a circus of all you guys know

---

posted November 26, 2004 07:06 PM            

This is the only way that you can discredit me for sure, so I never back here again!

Believe me JW, if it wasn't for me none of YOUR oposition would bother ever to talking to you, you and your posse are known to run all that doesn't share your views out of this forum!

All you did was take a slite indication into something I said and going to make me out to be the bad guy, while you go around and call anybody and everybody that is non-republican " Marxists, Communists, Socialists as you please right? And we're to except that, right?!

posted November 26, 2004 07:53 PM            

quote:

---

Believe me JW, if it wasn't for me none of YOUR oposition would bother ever to talking to you, you and your posse are known to run all that doesn't share your views out of this forum!

---

Thanks for interceding with the opposition on my behalf Ozone

As my good deed for the day, let me remind you that while you're flying around up there, remember the lesson of Icarus.

posted November 26, 2004 08:06 PM            

It's a interesting thing ya know, you've must of read my mind JW! I was thinking to myself that a creature such as myself are known to swoop up small animals and carry them off just to drop them off from high altitudes!

posted November 26, 2004 08:34 PM            

quote:

---

Oh believe me JW, their used to be dozens of Independents and Liberals alike that used to come to this forum rather quite often, so whatever you think that I'm interceding for, let me just point out to YOU that what I've said in the last post isn't no big secret JW! Your oposition dropped down to maybe...three!

---

That almost sounds like the sin of hubris Ozone

quote:

---

It's a interesting thing ya know, you've must of read my mind JW! I was thinking to myself that a creature such as myself are known to swoop up small animals and carry them off just to drop them off from high altitudes!

---

It wouldn't do to forget who is in who's food chain Ozone

quote:

---

Hope you remember to land on your feet buddy, just think of yourself as butter, then bread! []

---

posted November 26, 2004 08:54 PM            

quote:

---

Well Ozone, political debate isn't for the faint of heart, especially for those making wild accusations.

---

I don't think they are, it's just that your so relentless to hear anybody elses plees, that's all!

quote:

---

That almost sounds like the sin of hubris Ozone

---

Well that just goes to show much you think you know me JW!

quote:

---

It wouldn't do to forget who is in who's food chain Ozone

---

posted November 26, 2004 09:16 PM            

I'm sure that Rainbow remembers too!

So please don't try to discredit HER now JW, just because she isn't here anymore!

posted November 26, 2004 09:51 PM            

quote:

---

So please don't try to discredit HER now JW, just because she isn't here anymore!

---

Let's see Ozone, you don't think the "opposition", as you call them...yourself included made wild accusations?

Let me tell you ace that you were never able to back up a single accusation against the President and you still can't. The type of character assassination you and others both here and in the public at large employed had a great deal to do with Bush being reelected.

That's why I told you I would put you on the air 24/7 with your nonsense if it were within my power to do so.

Hubris indeed Ozone and nothing but when you compare me to a small helpless little creature you think you could scoop up and drop over a cliff. Buckle up!

posted November 26, 2004 10:01 PM            

She's great, her PC is broken down and she's waiting for it to get fixed, but on the plus side of it, she's catching up on alot of her spirital reading at the library where she's at! The book "The hidden messages in water" that she was raving about(while she was here)she just got done finishing, she also has done her intense reading about the women correlated in the Bible, like that of Mary Magdalene and such!

posted November 26, 2004 10:16 PM            

I guess I don't know much about the president as you say JW, not all of us are allowed to be closely associated with him, like you are!

quote:

---

Hubris indeed Ozone and nothing but when you compare me to a small helpless little creature you think you could scoop up and drop over a cliff.

---

Oh no, not at all JW, I compare you to myself!

posted November 26, 2004 10:57 PM            

quote:

---

Racist comments and hacking will do so.

---

posted November 27, 2004 12:16 AM            

Her name would not have come up except I was asked specifically who laid the mark of demons on me. Still, as I've made clear, I never run to Randall with insults on this site, or any other, preferring to take the issue up with the individuals personally...which I did and do.

As I said Ozone, you never laid a glove on the President. Nor did anyone on the loony left, including the bloated, brain dead, BS artist, Michael Moore. It was in fact, enjoyable watching them all self-destruct and take John Kerry off with them. Hey, with friends like that, Kerry didn't need any enemies.

posted November 27, 2004 01:18 AM            

One thing I can say about Raine that nobody even cares to mention, for all the things that she has ever read, she at least formulates a reflective opinion by careful thought within her own processes. It's one thing to have all the "facts" at hand, but for her, she takes those facts and trys to relate to them as through the accordances of her life and I feel it serves her well to exercise her own identity. Most people in this world don't even have that much! But people like me like to call it "freewill" and others that differ with that, just don't even realise how miserable they are, not over the lack of having, but over thus that they drive themselves into via to find this all an abomination for having such!

My brother is a prime example to that, he has a girlfriend that has a higher paying job then he does, but he pays all the expences, cars, house, child, etc. and she doesn't pay one single thing except for her own wellbeing, in fact, he had a hard time affording the very gas to make it to Thanksgiving dinner! On top of that, almost every payday, he's taking her out to places like as if she's the one that really deserves it! Meanwhile he is a NYC cop working in The Bronx, risking his life almost seven days a week(at times), and comes home just to lay down on stacks of(her cash in blue bands, underneith) on a crappy mattress and he once bounced 13 checks within a month! Yet HE believes that Dubya's re-election is going to set things right for him! If a million dollers dropped onto his lap right now, she would still take all of it and he would still be scrounging for change to fill up his tank! Just another person in this world that doesn't realize how miserable he/she has made for themselves! And thusforth, reflecting that onto others that are around them, meanwhile she's like all nonchalant about that whole situation, she's still as goofy as ever and he's changed soooo much, it's not even funny anymore and we can all see it! He used to laugh at life all the time, yesterday though, he was just way too serious, TOO SERIOUS!

My brother used to be a happy go lucky person all his life before he met her. But now, all he does for himself is hope for relief...someday, I don't think that he'll ever find it though, he'll still keep putting himself though his own torture!

At the rate that he's going, breaking up with her,living in a crappy apartment,eating out of soup cans for a little while and just paying the child support would be ten times more cheeper for him in the long run!

So much to being a follower with alot of facts though, too bad they don't help him much!

But I do point out that your very wrong about Raine!

posted November 27, 2004 02:11 AM            

Let's lay the issue of Raine 6 to rest. If I had known where it would go, I would never have said anything about what she said and her name wouldn't have come up at all.