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Petron
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posted April 11, 2005 07:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Former Secretaries James A. Baker III, Lawrence Eagleburger, Alexander Haig, Henry Kissinger and George Shultz signed the letter "


lets see a couple chairman of the carlyle group....board member of bechtel....a board member of philips petroleum(who along with alcolac sold iraq precursors) and a bunch of nixon stooges.....how authoratative!!!!

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Petron
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posted April 11, 2005 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

yea just what we need....another administration official in the un making unsupported claims of wmds and trying to pressure intelligence analysts to comply with his slant....

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The Bolton Nomination: An Effort to Derail?NewsweekApril 18 issue - Are efforts to derail John Bolton's nomination as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations progressing? NEWSWEEK has learned that in a closed-door interview with Senate intelligence-committee staffers last week, Stuart Cohen, former acting chief of the National Intelligence Council, a panel of senior intel analysts, said Bolton had visited his CIA office to demand that the council's top Latin America expert be removed from his post. Sources say the expert, who can't be identified because he serves undercover overseas, tangled with Bolton about the draft of a speech Bolton made in 2002 claiming that Cuba was pursuing a germ-warfare program. A Senate intel-committee report last year quoted another WMD analyst from the State Department as saying that Bolton had also tried to have him transferred because he raised questions about the same speech. (Neither analyst was reassigned.)

Senate Democrats expect a witness will appear at Bolton's delayed confirmation hearing this week to testify about Bolton's alleged attempts to intimidate intel professionals. Intel sources say a review last fall of Cuban WMD programs by the entire U.S. intel community vindicated the analysts who questioned the draft of Bolton's speech. The review concluded that U.S. agencies had reason to doubt the accuracy of a 1999 intel estimate which Bolton used to justify his claim that Cuba had "at least a limited offensive biological warfare research and development effort." Senate Republicans don't believe that Bolton's criticism of analysts was out of bounds. Bolton declined to comment.

—Mark Hosenball

© 2005 Newsweek, Inc.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7446007/site/newsweek

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jwhop
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posted April 11, 2005 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those charges have already been investigated and debunked Petron.

"Yesterday, Dodd claimed that there is "credible information" that Bolton tried to have two intelligence analysts fired for raising objections in advance of his Heritage speech. Dodd seems to have forgotten that the Senate has already investigated these allegations. In a report issued by the Intelligence Committee last July, Bolton and other government officials were exonerated of the charges of trying to manipulate intelligence for political purposes. According to the Journal, the report concluded that none of the intelligence analysts it interviewed "provided any information to the Committee which showed that policymakers had attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their analysis or that any intelligence analysts had changed their intelligence judgments as a result of political pressure." Moreover, reported the Journal, "the Senate report specifically clears Mr. Bolton of charges relating to the Heritage speech. It quotes an unnamed analyst who said that Mr. Bolton "berated" him when he made changes to a draft of the speech. But he also said "he was not removed from his portfolio and that he did not suffer any negative effects professionally." The analyst, Christian Westermann, is expected to testify against Mr. Bolton. Similar charges have been levied by a Latin America analyst at the CIA, who, like Mr. Westermann, also remains in his job." The Journal piece concluded: "All of this, in short, is political smoke designed to disguise what is really a policy dispute. Mr. Bolton's opponents don't want to promote a blunt-spoken supporter of Mr. Bush's foreign policy to help reform an obviously dysfunctional United Nations. They prefer someone who'll subjugate U.S. interests to the 'multilateralism' that is their, and the U.N.'s, dominant ethic. Democrats who vote against Mr. Bolton will be saying they want an Ambassador to the U.N. who represents Kofi Annan, not America."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/4/11/121852.shtml

I'm glad we have proven, business hardened people in our government Petron....otherwise we could have gone the way of the Soviet Union, the way North Korea is going now, the way Nicaragua went, Cuba and every other Marxist nation. Give Europe another 10-15 years and they will destroy their economy or have another war or both. Socialism, in all it's forms suks.

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Petron
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posted April 11, 2005 09:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

whatever jwhop

this is about a "witness" who is supposed to testify tommorrow who will probably say something not in that old Senate Intelligence Committee report....

although i doubt it will stop the confirmation.....

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Petron
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posted April 11, 2005 09:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh and btw maybe wnd isnt a cheap tabloid like newsmax afterall....

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34930


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jwhop
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posted April 11, 2005 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry you didn't notice the operative word here Petron. Could...on any given day Saddam could team up with al-Queda to attack the US.

Perfectly true Petron and what is perfectly true is not a lie.

Less than a week after the NIE was published, he warned that "on any given day" – provoked by attack or not, sufficiently desperate or not – Saddam could team up with Osama and conduct a joint terrorist operation against America using weapons of mass destruction.

"Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists," Bush said Oct. 7 in his nationally televised Cincinnati speech. "Alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving fingerprints." The terrorists he was referring to were "al-Qaida members."

Let me round it all out for you Petron. The President went on to say he couldn't take the chance that Saddam and al-Queda would....

Of course, it's easy to snipe from the cheap seats when you don't have any responsibility for protecting the country or the people. And all the sleazy democrats and self righteous leftists would have been screaming for his head..if..he hadn't taken Saddam out...and...there had been a coordinated attack by al-Queda using Saddam's WMD..which..he could have whipped up from the chemicals he had on hand.

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