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AcousticGod
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posted November 30, 2005 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The US military is secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to print stories written by US soldiers in an effort to polish the image of the American mission in Iraq, a US newspaper reported.

US military "information operations" troops have written the articles, which are translated into Arabic and placed in Baghdad newspapers with the help of the Lincoln Group, a Washington-based defense contractor, according to The Los Angeles Times.

Many articles are presented to Iraqi newspapers as unbiased news accounts written and reported by independent journalists, the daily said, citing documents it obtained and unnamed US military officials.

The stories denounce insurgents and tout the work of US and Iraqi troops and the US-led effort to rebuild Iraq.

The United States has paid Iraqi newspapers to publish dozens of articles, the LA Times said.

"The operation is designed to mask any connection with the US military," it said.

The Lincoln Group helps translate and place the stories. The contractor's Iraqi staff, or its subcontractors, sometimes pose as freelance journalists or advertising executives to hand the stories to Iraqi papers.

Some senior US military officers in Iraq and at the Pentagon have criticized the operation, saying it could ruin the US military's credibility in other countries and with the US public.

"Here we are trying to create the principles of democracy in Iraq. Every speech we give in that country is about democracy. And we're breaking all the first principles of democracy when we're doing it," a senior Pentagon official who opposes the planting of stories was quoted as saying.

Much of the effort was being directed by the "Information Operations Task Force" in Baghdad, part of the multinational corps headquarters commanded by Army Lieutenant General John Vines, the newspaper said.

The task force has even bought an Iraqi newspaper and taken control of a radio station, a military official said, refusing to name the outlets to protect their staff from insurgent attacks.

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Don't know whether to praise this or condemn it.

On the one hand, they are trying the 'be transparently good' tactic I espoused incorporating winning over Iraqis hearts and minds as part of the overall plan for winning in Iraq.

On the other hand, Republican run propaganda tends to obviously be propaganda and can serve to undercut our efforts there.

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posted November 30, 2005 12:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many of my arab friends have told me that.


For example Osama Bin Ladens's tape where he admits to 9/11. My friend said that the person who transalated it changed everything completely around. She says he says the American deserve this that or whatever. But he never admitted to 9/11. I think after they started accussing him he started going along with it to earn lots of recognition from the other retards that follow him.

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posted November 30, 2005 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pentagon looking into report military paid to plant news in Iraqi press
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The Pentagon said it is looking into a newspaper report that said the US military is secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to run stories written by US troops to burnish the US image in Iraq.

"If all of the elements in that story were accurate, there are some things in there that I find troubling, and that's why I've asked for the facts," said Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman.

"It was news to me," he said.

The Los Angeles Times said the articles were written by US military "information operations" troops, translated into Arabic and placed in Iraqi newspapers with the help of a defense contractor called Lincoln Group.

It said many of the articles were presented as unbiased news accounts trumpeting the work of US and Iraqi troops, denouncing the insurgents, and touting US efforts to rebuild the country.

The report, citing records and interviews, said the US military had paid Iraqi newspapers to publish dozens of the stories since the effort began this year.

Iraqi staff of the Washington-based Lincoln Group sometimes pose as freelance reporters or advertising executives in their approaches to Iraqi media outlets, masking their connection to the US military, according to the report.

Whitman said the report was troubling because the practices it described appeared to be in conflict with the Pentagon's overarching information policy. But he would not be more specific.

"That's what we want to look at: what they're doing and under what authority they believe they are executing some of these things," he said.

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Interesting! Rumsfeld is out of touch with what his people are doing again? Is that what I'm hearing?

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posted November 30, 2005 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One must wonder acoustic...why you would choose to post a story from Agence France-Presse which is a makeover of a story appearing in the Los Angeles times.

Could it be acoustic...that the story appearing in Agence France-Presse lacks an essential element of the story? An element without which the US is presented in a more unfavorable light? Could that be the reason acoustic?

"Though the articles are basically factual..."

The LA Times goes on to talk about the so called planted articles as not being balanced...apparently believing the so called planted articles should be offset by the terrorist viewpoint. But, The LA Times must consider they have fulfilled their own obligation of balance by inserting.."Though the articles are basically factual..."

November 30, 2005 latimes.com : World News
THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ
U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi Press
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-infowar30nov30,0, 5638790.story?coll=la-home-headlines

"Many of the articles are presented in the Iraqi press as unbiased news accounts written and reported by independent journalists. The stories trumpet the work of U.S. and Iraqi troops, denounce insurgents and tout U.S.-led efforts to rebuild the country.}

Imagine that, the Times thinks articles should be written by "unbiased and independent journalists". If they put that concept into practice, there wouldn't be any so called journalists at the LA Times.

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posted November 30, 2005 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's quite simple really. I posted it because it's one of the news sources that Yahoo News uses. I look at the headlines, and if it sounds interesting I open it.

You know it's kind of funny that you quote in bold a statement that is very nearly in the first AFP article I put up:

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Many articles are presented to Iraqi newspapers as unbiased news accounts written and reported by independent journalists, the daily said, citing documents it obtained and unnamed US military officials.

So much for that zinger, huh?

As far as unbiased and independent journalists go, well we already know which side most of those reside on, and it's not mine, Mr. NewsMax WoldNutDaily. (LA Times took two Pulitzers this year incidentally.)

If you feel, "the articles are basically factual," perhaps you should write Rumsfeld, and try to prevent the Pentagon from looking into it.

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posted November 30, 2005 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you actually impressed by the press patting itself on the back acoustic? That's what the Pulitzer Prize is.

If so acoustic, then you must be equally impressed when Hollywood pats itself on the back with their numerous awards through the year.

No thanks acoustic, you may be impressed by self servicing awards, I'm not. Fewer and fewer people are...declining circulation and declining box office revenues are the order of the day.

BTW acoustic, that wasn't a zinger aimed at you. It was a contrast between what the Times says and what the Times does.

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posted November 30, 2005 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you think it's ironic that a double 2005 Pulitzer Prize winner would talk about unbiased news accounts as if it weren't capable of the same feat.

Did you know the World Net Daily's founder's resume includes two defunct newspapers? Impressive, huh?

If circulation is going down, it's likely because people like you and I get our news online.

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posted November 30, 2005 07:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to be blunt, but why is this a story?

It's PsyOps, pure and simple.

The only remotely surprising thing to me is that they hired a contractor.

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posted November 30, 2005 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's surprising. Frankly, we should be on a bit of a PR campaign over there.

It is strange that the Pentagon is saying that it was unaware this is going on.

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AcousticGod
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posted December 01, 2005 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHouse concerned at reports of planted Iraq stories
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The White House expressed concern on Thursday at reports that the U.S. military has secretly paid Iraqi newspapers to run dozens of pro-American articles written by a special military task force.

The Los Angeles Times reported on Wednesday the program began this year and the articles were written in English, translated into Arabic and then given to Baghdad newspapers to print in return for money.

"We're very concerned about the reports. We are seeking more information from the Pentagon," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

He said Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had indicated that Pentagon officials are looking into the reports.

"We need to know what the facts are. Gen. Pace indicated it was news to him as well," McClellan said.

Sen. John Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat who was defeated by Bush in the presidential election, said paying for stories undermined U.S. credibility.

"What we need are Iraqis who really believe what they're saying and say it for themselves," he said to reporters at the White House.

The Los Angeles Times said it based its story on interviews with U.S. military officials who spoke on condition of anonymity and with Iraqi newspaper employees, as well as documents it obtained.

A defense contractor, a Washington-based public relations firm called Lincoln Group, helped translate the stories and used staff or subcontractors posing as freelance journalists or advertising executives to bring them to Iraqi media outlets, the Times reported.

The Times depicted the stories as "basically factual," but said they omitted information that might not reflect well upon the United States or the U.S.-backed Iraqi government.

The newspaper also reported that the "Information Operations Task Force" in Baghdad has bought an Iraqi newspaper and taken control of a radio station, and was using them to disseminate pro-American views as well.

The Bush administration was embarrassed early this year when it was disclosed that the Education Department had paid commentator Armstrong Williams $240,000 to tout President George W. Bush's landmark education plan, "No Child Left Behind."

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white house concerned my A**... they plant the stories, they even coached our soldiers for media interviews and told them what is alright to say..talk about,,also what is not,...same as they did the victims of hurricane katrina... do not trust that the media is not influenced heavily by our government here in the states. it is luaghable and causing my to consider becoming a political activist....free speech my a**...as long as it isn't offensive and my opinions match up with yours all pretty right in a row....ugh...not surprising....bush is retarded. oops sorry...my thoughts . not yours.

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white house concerned my A**... they plant the stories, they even coached our soldiers for media interviews and told them what is alright to say..talk about,,also what is not,...same as they did the victims of hurricane katrina... do not trust that the media is not influenced heavily by our government here in the states. it is laughable and causing me to consider becoming a political activist....free speech my a**...as long as it isn't offensive and my opinions match up with yours all pretty right in a row....ugh...not surprising....bush is retarded. oops sorry...my thoughts . not yours...

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sky,

yeh, the military is brainwashed
there saying exactly what they were
told to say
following orders!

Love and Light to ALL

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posted December 01, 2005 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hmmm, they don't look brainwashed to me. They look like bright, energetic, passionate and patriotic Americans eager and willing to serve their country. All the attributes missing in brain dead leftists.

They also adore their Commander in Chief...unlike the troops under Commander Corruption who had to be ordered to get in line to shake his hand.

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posted December 01, 2005 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an issue here Proxi because acoustic choose to post another accusation against the United States...and leave out the essential element...that the "news" stories the US is alleged to have planted were factual

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posted December 01, 2005 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you know anyone in the military personally???

They all look good to me

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posted December 01, 2005 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey acoustic, anyone can give themselves an award and that's what a Pulitzer Prize is...the press giving the press an award.

Impressive only to leftists.

Yeah, give Joseph Farah credit. He knows when to abandon a corrupt enterprise

Speaking of a resume acoustic, I would think yours would be more or less blank

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AH, the boys want to debate and girly uneducated opinions step aside. I never could debate theory and only personal matters, matter, sorry guys for butting in and trying to have an opinion, also sorry if it is taken wrongly, Our soldiers sacrifice and believe in what it is they do, every one that falls is a hero. Whether they should be there or not, another matter altogether. I trulky don't see AG as in any way ignorant or blank when I know you are both more educated than myself regarding these matters, and only opinionated as it relates to me. ah, the leo in me.

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posted December 01, 2005 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, you're veering off again from logic to absurdity.

quote:
The awards are the culmination of a year-long process that begins early in the year with the appointment of 102 distinguished judges who serve on 20 separate juries and are asked to make three nominations in each of the 21 categories. By February 1, the Administrator's office in the Columbia School of Journalism has received the journalism entries -in 2004, typically 1,423. Entries for journalism awards may be submitted by any individual from material appearing in a United States newspaper published daily, Sunday, or at least once a week during the calendar year. In early March, 77 editors, publishers, writers, and educators gather in the School of Journalism to judge the entries in the 14 journalism categories. From 1964-1999 each journalism jury consisted of five members. Due to the growing number of entries in the public service, investigative reporting, beat reporting, feature writing and commentary categories, these juries were enlarged to seven members beginning in 1999. http://www.pulitzer.org/

Joseph Farah

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Farah worked for a number of daily newspapers prior to the creation of WorldNetDaily. In 1990, he became editor of the now-defunct Sacramento (Calif.) Union, owned for several years by Richard Mellon Scaife, though he did not start work there after Scaife sold the paper to two Sacramento real estate developers, Daniel Benvenuti Jr. and David Kassis. They along with Farah were accused of taking the paper in an even more conservative direction than it had been under Scaife and skewing stories to reflect conservative ideas. Farah resigned as editor 15 months later; under his editorship, the paper's circulation declined approximately 30 percent. (The Sacramento Union closed in 1994; it was revived in 2004 as a web site and a monthly magazine.) Farah has also served as executive news editor of the Los Angeles Herald Examiner (now defunct) and served as editor-in-chief of a group of California dailies and weeklies.

Farah is the co-author, with U.S. Rep. Richard Pombo, of "This Land is Our Land," and in 1994 he collaborated with Rush Limbaugh on his book "See, I Told You So." In 2003, he wrote the book "Taking America Back."

Farah co-founded the Western Journalism Center with James H. Smith, former publisher of the Sacramento Union (and former CEO and publisher of the revived Sacramento Union operation). The center provided Christopher Ruddy with "additional expense money, funding for Freedom of Information Act requests, legal support and publicity" during his investigation of the death of Vince Foster while working as a reporter for the New York Post and the Scaife-owned Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. This included buying full-page ads in major newspapers reproducing Ruddy's work and co-producing a video about the Foster investigation with Ruddy. The center accepted $330,000 in donations from Scaife-connected foundations in 1994-95. The center has been involved in an ongoing lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service over a tax audit it alleges was politically motivated. Farah is, like Bozell, also a member of the secretive Council for National Policy.

WorldNetDaily started in May 1997 as a project of the Western Journalism Center. WorldNetDaily describes itself as "a fiercely independent newssite committed to hard-hitting investigative reporting of government waste, fraud and abuse." WorldNetDaily.com, Inc., headquartered in Cave Junction, Ore., but incorporated in Delaware, was spun off in 1999 as a for-profit subsidiary of the non-profit Western Journalism Center with the backing of $4.5 million from investors. Farah and the Western Journalism Center own a majority of WND, according to Farah; the rest of the stock is owned by about 75 private investors. As of late 2001, WorldNetDaily employed 25 people. Farah says that about 80 percent of WND's revenue comes from the sale of books and videos through the site; In 2002, WND created a book publishing division in partnership with Thomas Nelson Publishers, a prominent Christian publisher; authors include Katherine Harris and Michael Savage. That partnership ended in late 2004, and WND's new book partner is Cumberland House Publishing. The company claimed in 2001 that it expected to turn a profit in 2002. WND has approximately 20 employees. http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/primer.html


If only we ALL could make a living duping radical conservatives. Of course, I haven't researched the validity of the statements made on that site, so if anything is unfounded let me know (I'm tremendously interested in the misguided 'journalism' of the right, you know).

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posted December 01, 2005 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sxycrzykewl221,

I don't mind you giving your opinion, and I don't think Jwhop does either.

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posted December 01, 2005 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
look what i leared how to do.9uh thats learned).. so proud i can do that now!

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posted December 01, 2005 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is an issue here Proxi because acoustic choose to post another accusation against the United States...and leave out the essential element...that the "news" stories the US is alleged to have planted were factual

I missed this little post.

Actually, I didn't make an accusation. The article did/does.

The factual basis for the stories is not known by any of us for certain, so it really doesn't matter one way or the other in any practical terms. What should perhaps concern you, Jwhop, is that the White House, a.k.a. the Administration, is concerned about these reports.

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posted December 01, 2005 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're not helping your case here acoustic.

It's just like I told you...The Pulitzer..the leftist press preening and patting itself on the back

The judges acoustic..77 editors, publishers, writers, and educators...educators who are failed journalists, i.e., professors of journalism....all directly connected to the press.

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posted December 01, 2005 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually Jwhop, any objective person can see the truth of the matter. If you can't, then it's your deficiency.

Perhaps it would be wise for you to check out the school before leveling baseless accusations. http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/

And as far as them being directly connected with the press, how is that a bad thing? You know, they also pick winners from more right-leaning publications as well. Off the top of my head the Wall Street Journal gets them, as does the Orange County Register.

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posted December 01, 2005 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was that hit piece on Farah supposed to turn me off to Farah acoustic?

I didn't know there was a connection between Farah, Limbaugh and Ruddy...my kind of guys, conservatives.:thubmsup:

You seem much less interested in the truth acoustic and a lot more interested in where it comes from. Truth is truth...even if someone screws up and some truth gets printed in the NY Times.

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