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peace
Knowflake

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posted December 31, 2005 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think Bush is breaking the law for eavesdropping on phone conversations suspecting terrorism?.Show of Message Icon thumbs up for yes,thumbs down for no along with explanation please.

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ozonefiller
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posted December 31, 2005 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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jwhop
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posted December 31, 2005 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I'm not going to play by your rules peace.

Opinion does not govern whether the President of the United States has the authority to protect the US and it's citizens; the Constitution and laws govern.

By the Iraqi War Resolution, by every court decision bearing on the matter and by the authority invested in the presidency by the Constitution, the President has the full authority to prevent enemies of the US from firing an RPG or any other explosive device up your @ss; using the full resources of the United States to do so and yes, that would include intercepting phone conversations between terrorists and their friends, associates, supporters and collaborators here in the United States.

How lucky the Marxist left, their airhead sycophants, useful idiots and delusional supporters of illusionary terrorist rights are that it's not within my power to place them at ground zero in the next terrorist attack.

In fact, let's vote! All those volunteering to be at ground zero and be the subject and focus of the next terrorist attack, please signify by giving a thumbsup!

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lotusheartone
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posted December 31, 2005 11:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are talking about the President of the UNited States

automatically, he deserves our respect,
I have compassion for him, what a job

he took over where Clinton left on
and so on..

they've all done it
here we go again, picking on ONE
what about all the people who work for him?
they are just as responsible

hmmm
are we saying the system is corrupt?
it is, and has been for a long time

We're just realizing this now..

Love Conquers ALL

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lotusheartone
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posted December 31, 2005 11:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just thinking
they could do all this, and
never tell US
I'm sure that happens too!

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Lei_Kuei
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posted December 31, 2005 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, they have and do... and will continue to do so for evermore Not much you can do about but accept it as apart of the world we live in! Sometimes the only privacy you can have is inside your own mind and even then I have found... in their others listen closely also

Best not to strain ones self pondering things beyond your control at this point

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ozonefiller
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posted December 31, 2005 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
In fact, let's vote! All those volunteering to be at ground zero and be the subject and focus of the next terrorist attack, please signify by giving a thumbsup!

Well, I won't be able to vote on that, considering that I live only less then 200 miles from the original site!

What's next, major asteroid collision perhaps?

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lotusheartone
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posted December 31, 2005 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No asteroids

just volcanic eruptions, I think..

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jwhop
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posted January 08, 2006 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This Is Why We Don't Trust Democrats With National Security
by Ann Coulter
Posted Jan 4, 2006

It seems the Bush administration -- being a group of sane, informed adults -- has been secretly tapping Arab terrorists without warrants.

During the CIA raids in Afghanistan in early 2002 that captured Abu Zubaydah and his associates, the government seized computers, cell phones and personal phone books. Soon after the raids, the National Security Agency began trying to listen to calls placed to the phone numbers found in al Qaeda Rolodexes.

That was true even if you were "an American citizen" making the call from U.S. territory -- like convicted al Qaeda associate Iyman Faris who, after being arrested, confessed to plotting to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge. If you think the government should not be spying on people like Faris, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

By intercepting phone calls to people on Zubaydah's speed-dial, the NSA arrested not only "American citizen" Faris, but other Arab terrorists, including al Qaeda members plotting to bomb British pubs and train stations.

The most innocent-sounding target of the NSA's spying cited by the Treason Times was "an Iranian-American doctor in the South who came under suspicion because of what one official described as dubious ties to Osama bin Laden." Whatever softening adjectives the Times wants to put in front of the words "ties to Osama bin Laden," we're still left with those words -- "ties to Osama bin Laden." The government better be watching that person.

The Democratic Party has decided to express indignation at the idea that an American citizen who happens to be a member of al Qaeda is not allowed to have a private conversation with Osama bin Laden. If they run on that in 2008, it could be the first time in history a Republican president takes even the District of Columbia.

On this one, I'm pretty sure Americans are going with the president.

If the Democrats had any brains, they'd distance themselves from the cranks demanding Bush's impeachment for listening in on terrorists' phone calls to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. (Then again, if they had any brains, they'd be Republicans.)

To the contrary! It is Democrats like Sen. Barbara Boxer who are leading the charge to have Bush impeached for spying on people with Osama's cell phone number.

That's all you need to know about the Democrats to remember that they can't be trusted with national security. (That and Jimmy Carter.)

Thanks to the Treason Times' exposure of this highly classified government program, admitted terrorists like Iyman Faris are going to be appealing their convictions. Perhaps they can call Democratic senators as expert witnesses to testify that it was illegal for the Bush administration to eavesdrop on their completely private calls to al-Zarqawi.

Democrats and other traitors have tried to couch their opposition to the NSA program in civil libertarian terms, claiming Bush could have gone to the court created by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and gotten warrants for the interceptions.

The Treason Times reported FISA virtually rubber-stamps warrant requests all the time. As proof, the Times added this irrelevant statistic: In 2004, "1,754 warrants were approved." No one thought to ask how many requests were rejected.

Over and over we heard how the FISA court never turns down an application for a warrant. USA Today quoted liberal darling and author James Bamford saying: "The FISA court is as big a rubber stamp as you can possibly get within the federal judiciary." He "wondered why Bush sought the warrantless searches, since the FISA court rarely rejects search requests," said USA Today.

Put aside the question of why it's so vitally important to get a warrant from a rubber-stamp court if it's nothing but an empty formality anyway. After all the ballyhoo about how it was duck soup to get a warrant from FISA, I thought it was pretty big news when it later turned out that the FISA court had been denying warrant requests from the Bush administration like never before. According to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, the FISA court "modified more wiretap requests from the Bush administration than from the four previous presidential administrations combined."

In the 20 years preceding the attack of 9/11, the FISA court did not modify -- much less reject -- one single warrant request. But starting in 2001, the judges "modified 179 of the 5,645 requests for court-ordered surveillance by the Bush administration." In the years 2003 and 2004, the court issued 173 "substantive modifications" to warrant requests and rejected or "deferred" six warrant requests outright.

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack. Also, perhaps as a gesture of inclusion and tolerance, hold an Oval Office reception for the suspected al Qaeda operatives. After another terrorist attack, I'm sure a New York Times reporter could explain to the victims' families that, after all, the killer's ties to al Qaeda were merely "dubious" and the FISA court had a very good reason for denying the warrant request.

Every once in a while the nation needs little reminder of why the Democrats can't be trusted with national security. This is today's lesson.
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=11286&o=ANN001

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peace
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posted January 08, 2006 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JP,
As a Bush supporter do you think Bush will triumph in 2006?.

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posted January 08, 2006 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JP,
How do you know if I'm a Democrat or Republican?.My first post didn't mention it.

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jwhop
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posted January 08, 2006 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since JP...J.P. Morgan?...JP...Jefferson Pilot? has failed to show up to answer your questions peace, let me take a shot. I'm jwhop.

The President, Bush has yet to complete the first year of his second term in office; having been reelected in November 2004, starting the second term in January, 2005.

So, in answer to your question, "will Bush triumph in 2006"? the answer is that Bush will not be a candidate for any elected office in 2006. Further, it's doubtful Bush will ever again be a candidate for elected office.

As to your second question, how does JP know whether you're a democrat or Republican; a quick review of posts made by JP and other members reveals no one made any comment as to your political party affiliation.

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posted January 08, 2006 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JWHOP,
I abbreviated your name to JP.If you dislike it,I'll stop from there.

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Knowflake

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posted January 08, 2006 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot to mention jwhop,I mean will Bush have his best year in years in 2006 without an election.2005,his worst year ever.Will he get more support this year,since 3 is a lucky number?.

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jwhop
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posted January 09, 2006 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No peace, I don't mind if you want to refer to me as JP...instead of JW or jwhop. I've been called a lot worse

Lalalinda has pointed out that Bush is undergoing his Saturn return. So whatever the reality of his success, I'm not too sure it will feel successful to him.

As a practical matter, presidents have a tendency to become "lame ducks" in the out years of their presidencies. Further, it's an election year. I don't look for his party to lose either the House or Senate and if that turns out to be true, he will get a lot of his agenda enacted into law. I believe his success in 2006 will be tied directly to what happens in Iraq..both in the elections and his legislative agenda.

It's unfortunate but democrats have backed themselves into a very tight corner over Iraq. Good news from Iraq is very bad news for democrats indeed. Dumbest damned thing democrats have done...in a long, long list of dumb things they've done.

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