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Topic: No offense ladies...
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beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 10, 2006 10:54 PM
But if we (here in the USA) were to have a woman president I would be glad if she was a Scorpio. Hillary is a Scorp if memory serves and I just don't think the FIRST woman president should be anything but a Scorp. It's not that I don't think females of other signs wouldn't necessarily be qualified, but firsts make me nervous and Scorps make me feel secure. hehe I'd vote for her. What do you guys (except Jwhop) think? *Just kiddin Jwhop, bring on the criticism. I want to hear the dirt too. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted January 10, 2006 11:24 PM
I think you are silly... IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2006 11:49 PM
if you want the job done right, get a woMAN JWHOPIP: Logged |
Planet_Soul unregistered
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posted January 11, 2006 01:36 AM
Hilary would have my vote.IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 11, 2006 02:13 AM
Good ol' Hil is basically a man anyway..if anyones going to lead us into the purported "apocalypse of 2012" it should be a scorpio dammit!Plus it'd be fun to see Bill up to his old antics in the white house. Prancing around with interns behind hillaries back etc etc..good times! IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain unregistered
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posted January 11, 2006 02:17 AM
I think Hilary is very intelligent but I am not so sure about her capability as a president per say...not really something concrete to put my finger on, but she is strong nonetheless. However, I would like a break from all the water... (Bush)... it'll be eight years now. I think Scorpio women are super strong and agree that the first female president (if there ever IS one in america, not happening), should be a fixed sign. I have no preference among these fixed signs. However if some random woman were to magically become president next term I would put in an order for a Taurus or Aquarian because I feel practicality and detachment from the situation is necessary for clarity; and emotions have run too high this presidential term. Love SG IP: Logged |
beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 11, 2006 08:38 AM
SGA,Did you know that more American presidents have been aquarius than any other sign? IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain unregistered
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posted January 11, 2006 04:47 PM
Hi beebuddy, I didn't know that. Interesting! I know that Cheney is an Aqua (right?) but I still think emotions have run too high, and the kind of patriotism that has been adopted by a lot of neo-con, or bible-thumping america has scared the bajeepers out of me... and deported some nice harmless people I knew. Even from the political left, there has been too much anger I think. Regardless of what people may say...I miss Clinton, that was the time when I felt safe. Love SG IP: Logged |
TINK unregistered
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posted January 11, 2006 06:10 PM
No need to state the obvious, beebuddyIP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 12, 2006 10:32 PM
I have no objection to a woMAN president lalalinda. I just don't think it's going to be Hillary. Hillary is one of the most divisive personalities in politics. Besides, Bill doesn't qualify as First Gentleman All those interns, so little time Roger beebuddy...there's all those "gates" in Hillary's past and if she ever becomes a candidate for President, she isn't going to be able to duck all those questions by responding "that's old history". On the other hand, there's Condoleezza Rice, Scorpio woman and per Lois Rodden, Cancer Moon, Aquarius Rising. A woman who bootstrapped her way to the top against all odds...as opposed to Hillary who rode the coattails of Commander Corruption to her position of power and influence. Hey you, knock off the crap! IP: Logged |
beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 13, 2006 12:14 PM
WHOA! She is seriously ugly!Seriously though, I thought the whole FISA court thing was BS and when I heard her explanation for it... Oh wait I never heard her give an explanation, she just said "Mr. President was acting within his authority". lol. Anyway, the FISA thing is enough to keep me from ever voting for those guys. I mean if the FISA court has rejected 1 request (which was later succesfully appealed) since it's inception, what could be the reason for dumping it and breaking the law? Oh wait could it be "PATRIOT ACT" (pronounced like Dana Carvey's church lady "SATAN" schpiel). Seriously, here is what I can come up with... the patriot act DOES give Bush the authority to spy on anyone he wants to BUT that part of the legislation is secret. Or was secret. But as far as I know it is illegal because of the FISA act. If it is legal they won't tell us which is BS. Either way I'll be happy to know what kind of secret BS the patriot act contains and hopefully no Pres. will ever be able to spy on Americans without at least one judicial branch overseeing the spying. Spying is fine (who doesn't love james bond?) but spying without anyone to watch over you is scary. Jwhop, you love republican stuff, aren't republicans supposed to hate it when government is ultra-powerful? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2006 02:04 PM
Beebuddy, what is it with leftists that prevents them from processing factual information and arriving at the intended meaning?Is it a mental disorder as Michael Savage asserts? Or is it supreme and terminal intellectual dishonesty? I've already spoken to this so called illegal violation of civil rights by the President. So called because it's not in any way illegal under the circumstances which prevail and IS in fact, his sworn duty. Now beebuddy, you can go here and read what's already been written about the subject of warrantless searches...including electronic surveillance. When you do, you will note the FICA Court has already ruled the President has the inherent power to do so. You will also find the Congress of the United States conferred the same power upon the President by a legislative act and funded the activity...among others. Lucky you beebuddy; while you're reading through the information, you'll also come across a spy program of Commander Corruption's, code named ECHELON. You'll also stumble across the fact Commander Corruption specifically authorized warrantless searches by Executive Order....as did the bungling, incompetent James Earl Carter...Jimmy. And since you are pretending outrage beebuddy, let me invite you to look up another spy program instituted by Commander Corruption...code named CARNIVORE. Do get back to me and tell me how outraged you are about all that beebuddy. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001593.html So, beebuddy, if the President has the inherent constitutional authority to direct warrantless searches be done.....and if the US Courts have confirmed the President has that inherent authority....and if the Congress of the United States have restated that same authority of the President to do so....then beebuddy, the President really does have that authority and leftists in Congress, leftists in the press, leftists groups and leftists at large are pis*ing into the wind. The President needs no provision of the Patriot Act to authorize warrantless searches. Lastly beebuddy, it's particularly un-PC for leftists to comment on someone's appearance.....since political correctness is an invention of leftists. Don't you think you should live up to the PC code of conduct? IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ unregistered
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posted January 13, 2006 06:27 PM
I nominate Her Majesty Queen Noor of Jordon to run for next president of the United States... ` ` ` ` ` ` QUEEN NOOR ` ` ` ` I've always admired this very intelligent, insightful, spiritual, woman who was married to King Hussein of Jordon for twenty years before his death in 1998. She was born Lisa Halaby in America, was schooled in Los Angeles, Washington DC, New York City, and Concord Academy in Massachusetts. She received a B.A from Princeton University. Queen Noor would make a terrific president for us, but I doubt she was want to be nominated....
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Mystic Gemini unregistered
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posted January 13, 2006 06:39 PM
I'd definitely vote for Hillary. ------------------ Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra
*´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity Blind my eyes I cannot see Lost my soul but found my heart Again a time, when I shall start IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion unregistered
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posted January 13, 2006 10:03 PM
another vote for hilary...& i like the fact that she's a scorpio...IP: Logged |
beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 13, 2006 11:10 PM
Jwhop,Without making me read too much nonsense, what legislation is it that says that the executive can spy on whomever they please? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2006 11:50 PM
First of all beebuddy, there is no legislation which says the President can spy on whomever he wishes.Before I waste any more of my time refuting your absurd allegations, let's see where we are. Have you conceded that federal courts have ruled the President has the inherent constitutional authority to order warrantless searches? IP: Logged |
beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 14, 2006 12:20 AM
"Have you conceded that federal courts have ruled the President has the inherent constitutional authority to order warrantless searches?"No, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. And if it is that is of course considered outrageous. The impression was that "warrentless" spying had a 72 hour window after which time a warrant was needed. The president is exempt you say? IP: Logged |
beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 14, 2006 12:24 AM
BTW, what case set that precedent? I would like to read those opinions.IP: Logged |
beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 14, 2006 12:47 AM
""Lastly beebuddy, it's particularly un-PC for leftists to comment on someone's appearance.....since political correctness is an invention of leftists. Don't you think you should live up to the PC code of conduct?""That's your imagination there Jwhop. "beebuddy" never claimed to be a leftist, to like ugly chicks or to not call ugly chicks that put themselves in the public "ugly chicks". IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 14, 2006 12:55 AM
This is the Joint Resolution authorizing the President to use necessary actions against terrorists, terrorist organizations, terrorist supporting nations and personsSo, the President has congressional authority to undertake surveillance activities against terrorist and you will notice, there is no requirement those actions be taken outside the US. You will also note there is no restriction put on what actions the President is authorized to take. Joint Resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq. "Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary; Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;" This is the information relative to court cases where the court ruled the power to order warrantless searches is inherent in the President. "In Re: Sealed Case," the FISA appeals court decision cited a previous FISA case [U.S. v. Truong], where a federal court "held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information." ***Notice, the authority is inherent in the president. The court's decision went on to say: "We take for granted that the President does have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not encroach on the President's constitutional power." ****Notice, this authority is a constitutional power bestowed on the president. Oh the outrage! Of course, all this feigned outrage is total bullsh*t...in light of Commander Corruption's authorizing of ECHELON and CARNIVORE....which I note beebuddy you absolutely avoided commenting on. You also avoided commenting on the Executive Orders issued by both Commander Corruption and Jimmy Carter authorizing warrantless searches. Why is that beebuddy?
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 14, 2006 01:09 AM
Question beebuddy...why are you referring to yourself in second person language?Are you not beebuddy? You're already anonymous; do you claim to be an anonymous impostor as well? Can't blame you for not wanting to be identified as a leftist beebuddy
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beebuddy unregistered
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posted January 14, 2006 03:36 PM
It will take a while to sort through the onerous verbage, but to start with may I ask who is "Commander Corruption" and what has he got to do with "beebuddy?" IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 14, 2006 04:02 PM
Interesting beebuddy, someone else does all the work for you, condensing down all the material to the essential elements and yet, you find reading a few short paragraphs onerous. Commander Corruption is William Jefferson Clinton, the most corrupt President in US history. So says a large panel of historians, presidential scholars and presidential watches....from a study and poll which was about a year in the making. BTW, the public side of the same poll got exactly the same result. Now beebuddy, would you care to comment on the reasons you find the Bush warrantless searches outrageous...though they were targeted at only terrorists or suspected terrorists....but you don't find ECHELON outrageous, the program which targeted every form of electronic communication in America? I don't know what you have to do with Commander Corruption...unless....is that you Bill? IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ unregistered
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posted January 14, 2006 03:11 PM
I still say we should coax Queen Noor out of Jordon and let her run for president. We could certainly use a lady such as this.... No garbage; no scandals; Just integrity; peace and a loving nature....what a refreshing breath of fresh air she would be.... On the other hand it would be sinful for us to use a beautiful soul such as Queen Noor...a "virgin soul" so to speak, thrown into a den filled with corruption, wolves, vampires, self-serving, thoughtless, heartless, mindless, selfish politicians, hiding under the guise of "good guys" with only our betterment in mind!!!! Sometimes I'm so get soooo sick of all the **** ! IP: Logged | |