posted January 14, 2006 05:49 PM              

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The US has about 20,000 troops in Afghanistan, but Pakistan does not allow them to operate across the border.

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posted January 14, 2006 06:05 PM              

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The US military has denied knowledge of the attack, which US media reported had been carried out by the CIA.

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posted January 15, 2006 02:31 PM              

Leaders of Pakistan's opposition Islamic alliance were preparing on Sunday to launch a fresh campaign against president Pervez Musharraf's government, as anti-US anger mounted in the wake of US airstrikes on a remote village in the north.

On Sunday, there were demonstrations in several towns and cities across the country as protestors vented their anger at the US. In Karachi, the southern port city, at least 10 thousand supporters of islamic and mainstream parties joined hands in protest, in a rare expression of solidarity.

"America, stop killing our muslim brothers," they chanted.

The weekend attack, believed to have been carried out by a CIA-operated unmanned drone aircrafts on Friday, left at least 18 people dead including women and children. But Pakistani officials said Ayman al-Zawahiri, al Qaeda's second in command believed to have been targeted by the US, was not near the site of the strike.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10860233/

posted January 16, 2006 01:38 AM              

i love the part where he says 'darned good information' and 'there might have been some important al qaeda officials'....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/15/alqaeda.strike.us/index.html

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"We regret it. We understand the anger that people feel, but the United States' priorities are to get rid of al Qaeda, and this was an effort to do so."

He added, "We apologize, but I can't tell you that we wouldn't do the same thing again."

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absolutely ridiculous. Pakistans government has been kissing americas A$$ just to keep its citizens safe...even at the expense of being between a rock and a hard place, and a lot of anger and resentment. This is what it gets in return....the way Truman handled the a-bomb, 'i never regret things once i do them...' and things like 'im sorry but it was necessary' absolutely BEE ESS. Well you know then the 9/11 hijackers might have said that they thought maybe an Israeli secret service agent was in the towers so they had to take them down you know, it was just *necessary*. I think Osama bin laden is in your head, president bush, so can i bomb your head now?

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SG

posted January 16, 2006 09:12 AM            

If Islamic nations or any other wish to keep their citizens safe from attacks, the very best way to assure that would be to take control of their radical, murderous terrorists within their own borders. Terrorists who use their country to launch attacks on their neighbors, the US or allies of the US. To the extent they do not, they make themselves part of the war terrorists declared on the West, including the US.

Radical clerics, mullahs and Islamic terrorists goals to plant the flag of Islam over the capitols of western nations is not going to be tolerated.

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"In a speech shown Sunday on state-run Pakistan Television, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf did not address the Damadola strike directly, but he warned his countrymen not to harbor militants, saying it would only increase violence inside Pakistan."

"If we keep sheltering foreign terrorists here ... our future will not be good. Remember what I say," Musharraf said.

"Survivors in Damadola denied militants were there, but some news reports quoted unidentified Pakistani officials as saying up to 11 extremists were believed among the dead."

"A senior intelligence official said Sunday that 12 bodies, including seven foreigners, had been taken from the village."

posted January 16, 2006 02:16 PM            

Perhaps you would understand the reasons most Americans would be loath to take advice from those in nations upon which the sun has already set. Better you should expend your time and energy picking up the poop in your own back yard.

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posted January 16, 2006 04:29 PM              

Brussels hasn't managed to rule us yet and judging by public opinion swinging violently away from Blair, it seems highly unlikely that we will ever be firmly under the thumb of the EU. We have resisted an awful lot on this ancient isle jwhop, mainly because the majority of the electorate tends to question before believing.

And actually my dear, that the sun still shines here, in between our legendary downpours. You may be wise to take advice from a nation who pursued a ridiculous day dream of gaining an empire, and the ramifications it produced. Because to all intents and purposes, an empire is exactly what Bush's administration is pursuing (possibly under the guise of ridding the world of terrorism) - simply read the quote from the Project for The New American Century's mission statement if you don't believe me. To quote myself from a previous thread...

"The British Empire crashed and burned even though it managed to introduce a few positive things such as better educational opportunities and health care to some of the countries it claimed as it's own, not to mention the concept of democracy itself. We've reaped a great deal of karma however from that arrogant 'global muscle flexing' exercise, so perhaps Mr Bush's administration should take note and learn from our past mistakes?

And since our 2 governments have decided to work together, it is "my back yard" jwhop. Just as it's yours and all of ours.

And if you were so keen to seperate yourselves from us, why ask for our assistance ?

By the way, if you wish to prosecute people for harboring or even funding terrorists, you might want to look a little closer to home. Lots of US money went into aiding the IRA cause, and there have been several attacks on the Palestinians by the Israelis who also have a strong supoort in the US.

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posted January 17, 2006 12:33 AM            

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I thank the foreign policy expert from the UK for her comments but would remind her we fought a war to separate ourselves from Great Britain. Kindly mind your own business and leave US foreign policy in the hands of adults elected by United States citizens.

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posted February 04, 2006 08:48 PM              

Its SG not SC jwhop

take control of their radical, murderous terrorists?

you say it as if its SO EASY.

If America, the oh so great superpower of the world can't find these people, do you think its so easy for third world countries with little to no resources for social welfare and infrastructure, let alone policing? And let me tell you another thing, the rate of production of terrorists is much greater than the rate of finding catching and punishing them, because the underlying root of the terrorist cause is not changing. That which enrages them is not changing. Terrorism is not an institution, it is a mentality, and it is spread through homes, through brains and conversations. How are you gonna catch them? And can you tell me what you expect of the Paki govt? Even after theyve persecuted several people (mostly INNOCENT), just to show america that they're trying to do what it wants? Now that we're on the subject, what exactly does the US govt want from the world anyway, to eliminate people it deems as mentally unfit to exist? Whoever they may be? And was america even really able to eliminate the mafia or other institutionalized crime organizations? How can it expect other countries to do so?? How completely incomprehensible that you so easily categorize these governments as terrorist and part of the problem simply because they are not able to completely eliminate this problem. Well, can the US? Then following your logic the US would be terrorist too, because it can't eliminate Al Qaeda, its been several years, and lets face it, it never will. It will continue to bomb innocent people like this till policy makers who buy this policy leave office.

And Prez Musharraf, or more appropriately, Busharraf, is not a reliable source to quote. Saddam was not democratic you say, but Busharraf is, although he overturned a democratically elected PM and refuses to turn over both his military and political power, thus making him a military dictator no different from Hitler or Castro?

And let me tell you who the Paki officials are. they completely fabricated those numbers. They are Busharrafs cronies who had to come up with something quick to kiss Americas a$$ again so that they can keep receiving aid. What a perfectly disgusting way to sell out.

Pakistani govt is not being wise. It has lost its alliance with China as well after selling out to the nation. Do you have any idea how outraged the Paki public was after Busharraf said all this crap? They wished he would die, but people like him never seem to, they live to be like two hundred and seventy three years old.

Not only is Busharraf completely biased against non-Karachiites, he is also completely unconcerned with Kashmir, the Punjabis, the Northerners (who were hit with these bombs), and his neighbors, except India (despite the Indian injustices against several Pakis and Muslims). It is because of purely his own urdu-speaking, karachiite background (he was born in India).

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SG

posted February 05, 2006 06:35 AM              

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And was america even really able to eliminate the mafia or other institutionalized crime organizations? How can it expect other countries to do so??

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posted February 05, 2006 02:56 PM            

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Kindly mind your own business and leave US foreign policy in the hands of adults elected by United States citizens.

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posted February 06, 2006 02:14 AM              

Thats all i have to say at this point.