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salome
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posted February 15, 2006 03:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The suffering of poor Mr. Whittington -- and the embarrassment of Mr. Cheney -- may not be completely in vain. For as James Carville has noted, this accident provided a timely distraction from more concrete and important examples of the incompetence that plagues the Bush-Cheney administration. The more coverage that is devoted to the shooting, the less attention will be paid to the latest disasters at home and abroad.

In our own country, the details of the federal government's failure to respond to Hurricane Katrina continue to emerge. The latest report prepared by Republican members of Congress lambastes the President for the disaster's aftermath.

In Iraq, the results of shooting first and asking questions later are once more on display. The post-election power struggle in the Iraqi Parliament has empowered the most extreme Islamists in the Shiite community, notably Muqtada al-Sadr, whose renewed influence can only please the Iranian mullahs. How this advances American interests or the rise of democracy in the region has yet to be explained.

In the courts, the facts are emerging about White House manipulation of intelligence to promote a foolish war. The National Journal has reported testimony by Mr. Cheney's indicted former chief of staff, Lewis (Scooter) Libby, which strongly suggests that the Vice President misused classified material for partisan advantage.

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=20368

i believe that none of these shooting, press release, or even hospital events were accidental in the least. these are not the kind of mistakes people like dick cheney and co. makes.


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lotusheartone
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posted February 15, 2006 03:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sad, but true..

and it's gonna get alot worse..
before it gets better..


Hope we all pull together..

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goatgirl
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posted February 15, 2006 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course its ¨big news¨ so that it will distract the easily led public from issues that need their attention like the VP leaking sensitive information about an CIA operative to the press...you know impeachible offenses.

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After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley

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Cardinalgal
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posted February 15, 2006 05:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see Cheney's "taken full responsibility" for the shooting.

"He defended his decision not to report the matter immediately to the public - instead leaving it to the ranch owner to tell a local paper the next day - saying he still thought it had been "the right call". "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4715232.stm

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AcousticGod
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posted February 16, 2006 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i believe that none of these shooting, press release, or even hospital events were accidental in the least. these are not the kind of mistakes people like dick cheney and co. makes.

I not only disagree, but I'm afraid I highly disagree. I've still seen all of those bad news stories coming out. It wouldn't be logical for a man already involved in leaking classified material to endanger the life of someone over 70 by shooting him. A middle-aged man would be a much better choice if you were going to purposely shoot someone while trying to ensure that they survive without too much damage.

I think it was just an ill-timed accident that puts the topping on the cake on all the bad stuff this administration is responsible for.

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Cardinalgal
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posted February 16, 2006 06:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think it was just an ill-timed accident that puts the topping on the cake on all the bad stuff this administration is responsible for.

Yep I'm with you on that!

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proxieme
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posted February 16, 2006 06:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto.

The only reason the press is going so nuts over this is b/c they already smell blood in the water.

This whole story's silly.

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salome
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posted February 16, 2006 12:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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TINK
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posted February 16, 2006 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe the shooting was planned. But I'm certain it will come in handy.

Even the most seemingly unfortunate events can be used to one's advantage. In this case, with very little effort on Cheney's part. Lucky b@stard .

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Mystic Gemini
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posted February 16, 2006 05:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a dumb a$$. He probably shot the guy on purpose.


I'd never trust an Illuminati.


Damn Homophobe
(Yet his daughter's a lesbian)


*Rolls eyes

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Petron
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posted February 16, 2006 08:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

condensed interview


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Interview of the Vice President by Brit Hume, FOX News
Vice President's Ceremonial Office
Eisenhower Executive Office Building

2:01 P.M. EST

Q Mr. Vice President, how is Mr. Whittington?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, the good news is he's doing very well today.

Q Describe the setting.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: It's in south Texas, wide-open spaces, a lot of brush cover, fairly shallow. But it's wild quail. It's some of the best quail hunting anyplace in the country


And a group of us had hunted all day on Saturday --

Q How many?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Oh, probably 10 people. We weren't all together, but about 10 guests at the ranch. There were three of us who had gotten out of the vehicle and walked up on a covey of quail that had been pointed by the dogs. Covey is flushed, we've shot, and each of us got a bird. Harry couldn't find his, it had gone down in some deep cover, and so he went off to look for it. The other hunter and I then turned and walked about a hundred yards in another direction --

Q Away from him?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Away from him -- where another covey had been spotted by an outrider. I was on the far right --

Q There was just two of you then?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Just two of us at that point. The guide or outrider between us, and of course, there's this entourage behind us, all the cars and so forth that follow me around when I'm out there -- but bird flushed and went to my right, off to the west. I turned and shot at the bird, and at that second, saw Harry standing there. Didn't know he was there --

Q You had pulled the trigger and you saw him?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I saw him fall, basically. It had happened so fast.


Q What was he wearing?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: He was dressed in orange, he was dressed properly, but he was also -- there was a little bit of a gully there, so he was down a little ways before land level, although I could see the upper part of his body when -- I didn't see it at the time I shot, until after I'd fired. And the sun was directly behind him -- that affected the vision, too, I'm sure.


Q Now, is it clear that -- he had caught part of the shot, is that right?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: -- part of the shot. He was struck in the right side of his face, his neck and his upper torso on the right side of his body.

Q And you -- and I take it, you missed the bird.

Q And what did you see? He's lying there --

THE VICE PRESIDENT: He was laying there on his back, obviously bleeding


Q And Mr. Whittington was conscious, unconscious, what?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: He was conscious --

Q What did you say?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I said, "Harry, I had no idea you were there." And --

Q What did he say?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: He didn't respond.

Q What did you think when you saw the injuries? How serious did they appear to you to be?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I had no idea how serious it was going to be. I mean, it could have been extraordinarily serious.


Q And what did you do then? Did you get up and did you go with him, or did you go to the hospital?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No, I had -- I told my physician's assistant to go with him

We also had an ambulance at the ranch, because one always follows me around wherever I go.

Q Did you have a sense then of how he was doing?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, we're getting reports, but they were confusing. Early reports are always wrong. The initial reports that came back from the ambulance were that he was doing well, his eyes were open. They got him into the emergency room at Kingsville --

Q His eyes were open when you found him, then, right?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Yes. One eye was open.


Q Was anybody drinking in this party?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No. You don't hunt with people who drink. That's not a good idea.

Q So he wasn't, and you weren't?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I had a beer at lunch

Q Well, did it occur to you that sooner was -- I mean, the one thing that we've all kind of learned over the last several decades is that if something like this happens, as a rule sooner is better.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: As we saw, if we'd put out a report Saturday night on what we heard then -- one report came in that said, superficial injuries. If we'd gone with a statement at that point, we'd have been wrong. And it was also important, I thought, to get the story out as accurately as possible, and this is a complicated story that, frankly, most reporters would never have dealt with before, so --

Q But there were some things you knew. I mean, you knew the man had been shot, you knew he was injured, you knew he was in the hospital, and you knew you'd shot him.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Correct.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060215-3.html


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Rainbow~
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posted February 17, 2006 02:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Dick! How many
times did I tell you,
"Study the following,
carefully, before you
take that damn hunting trip?"


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Rainbow~
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posted February 17, 2006 02:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

And how many times have I told you, I TAKE ORDERS FROM NO ONE!!!

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Rainbow~
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posted February 17, 2006 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Dickie boy, I believe my position here in this faux government here in theese yeenited states uf Amerika is just a tad elevated above yours!

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Petron
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posted February 17, 2006 04:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehee

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Rainbow~
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posted February 17, 2006 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron....I'm so glad you saw this....

(YOU are my inspiration, you know.....although my humble attempts at "political humor" come no where near yours and your your excellent ability...tee hee)

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Petron
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posted February 17, 2006 08:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks rainbow~!!

it was you and pidaua who inspired me to start editing some of the pictures myself...thanx!!

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Petron
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posted February 17, 2006 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cheney-i'm gonna make jr. shoot the next guy himself!!

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Petron
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posted February 17, 2006 08:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"i'm sorry i got in your way dick!"

Cheney Hunting Companion Is Released From Hospital

By John Pomfret
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 18, 2006; Page A06

CORPUS CHRISTI, Tex., Feb. 17 -- The Texas lawyer shot by Vice President Cheney during a hunting trip was discharged from a hospital Friday, and he described his ordeal as "a cloud of misfortune and sadness that is not easy to explain," saying he was sorry for all the vice president and his family had to go through.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/17/AR2006021701888.html

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Rainbow~
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posted February 17, 2006 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This guy (who seems like a nice enough guy), apolizges to cheney for shooting him...

Can you believe that????

Somebody shoots me, and then I turn around and apologize to him for shooting me.....hmmmmm

Something doesn't seem "kosher" about that...*sigh*

Kinda gives one insight on just how much POWER this cheney/devil weilds....

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AcousticGod
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posted February 17, 2006 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he was merely saying that it was unfortunate what Cheney and his family had to go through.

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DayDreamer
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posted February 17, 2006 10:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Early Aquarians, like Dick Cheney (Jan 30) should be getting some heat now. Saturn in Leo is opposing Early Aquarius. Could explain why Wayne Gretzky (Jan 26), and here in Canada, former Ontario premier Mike Harris (Jan 23) also seem to be getting into trouble now. This all makes me want to go into hibernation Any other early Aquarians around here feel like trouble is headed their way?

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Rainbow~
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posted February 18, 2006 12:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG said...

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I think he was merely saying that it was unfortunate what Cheney and his family had to go through.

...ah...yes...of course that's what he was saying...no doubt about that...nevertheless...was that Whittington's fault? Look at that poor man's face...and what HE'S been thru this week...*sigh* cheney should be telling him that HE'S the one who's sorry...I don't think I heard an apology from him...

As for me, I might be just a tad bit pi$$ed off, if some bungling idiot got clumsy and took a shot at me......Mr. Whittington was being a gentleman...

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Petron
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posted February 18, 2006 12:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what is so unfortunate about what cheney and his family had to go thru? you mean all the people making fun of him?

here...play the quail hunting video game and see if you can do better than cheney....

http://dickcheneyquailhunt.cf.huffingtonpost.com/


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"You can see what a lucky man I am,"

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Rainbow~
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posted February 18, 2006 04:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Something Whittington said....

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and he described his ordeal as "a cloud of misfortune and sadness that is not easy to explain,"

Is there a hidden message here?

Is he maybe trying to tell us something?

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