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goatgirl
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posted March 13, 2006 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bush raises alarm: U.S. can't afford isolationism
By David E. Sanger The New York Times

MONDAY, MARCH 13, 2006

WASHINGTON The president who made pre-emption and going it alone the watchwords of his first term is quietly turning in a new direction, warning at every opportunity of the dangers of turning the nation inward and isolationist, and making the case for international engagement on issues ranging from national security to global economics.

President George W. Bush's cautions on the dangers of pulling back behind American borders - in trade and investment, in immigration, and in his effort to make the spread of democracy the signature of his second term - first cropped up in his State of the Union address six weeks ago.

But it accelerated even before the Dubai ports deal was blown up by members of his own Republican Party last week, and before an unexpected uprising began among some neoconservatives. They are now arguing that Iraq, while a noble effort, has turned into a failed mission that must be abandoned.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/13/news/bush.php

Interesting read.

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TINK
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posted March 13, 2006 04:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd almost rather isolationism than this sticking our noses in everyone else's crap business we're currently engaged in.

"noble effort" my ass. Leaving that country in the mess it's in, now that would be dishonorable.

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jwhop
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posted March 13, 2006 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hadn't thought about David Sanger since he attempted to throw the 2004 election to the traitor John Kerry...perhaps because I don't think much of David Sanger.

Shades of Dan Blather who attempted to throw the election to Kerry with a phony story about Bush based on forged documents.

Perhaps you remember; this is the leftist twit who broke a story in the reliably lying NY Times, only days before the 2004 election, that American military forces examined a munitions dump in Iraq, found oodles of high powered explosives, got in their vehicles and drove off....we don't know if they even bothered to lock the gate.

Next thing we knew, the munitions disappeared. Forget the fact the area was swarming with Coalition military forces..on the roads and in the air, this twit concocted a story which would have Saddam loyalists backing up a convey of 18 wheelers and making off down the highways with their loot right in front of the US military

The timing of the story was more than suspect and proved to be untrue but it did have one of it's desired effects...it occupied a lot of time for the White House.

I see this leftist twit still has his head screwed on backward. He starts right out with the big lie. Bush going it alone. Bullsh*t.

These are the coalition partners in the Iraq War. Oh, I know they didn't contribute as much as America and therefore they didn't contribute anything at all...leftist speak.

Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.

To that list, add Kuwait, which was swarming with coalition forces...still is and was the jumping off point for coalition forces.

To that list, also add the UAE, where numerous US air bases were and still are operating and let's also not forget the ports there which serviced and still are servicing US warships.

What an insulting little bast*rd Sanger really is.

Nevertheless, all the little Kool-Aid drinkers belly up to the bar and order doubles. Just can't get enough.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop..they are looking for the big Kool-Aid guy..

maybe they will blame him next. ...

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jwhop
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posted March 13, 2006 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well TINK, I wonder what your position is going to be when all those Saddam tapes are transcribed. Tapes of Saddam talking to his cabinet and military officers about WMD and hiding it.

There's already an Iraqi General who says Saddam's WMD was transferred out of Iraq just days before the war.

I wonder what you'll be saying when it gets into the public sphere that Saddam was training al-Qaeda members in the use of chemical and biological weapons and that Saddam DID have a far closer relationship with al-Qaeda than has been reported.

Actually TINK, that relationship has already been proved. There is a commercial jet parked about 30 miles south of Baghdad which was used to train terrorists in hijacking airliners. We know that because the commander of the training camp has confirmed that when he heard the reports of how the terrorists...al-Qaeda took over the planes used in the 9/11 attacks, those tactics were exactly the same tactics taught at Salmon Pak....right down to the box cutters.

There are 48,000 boxes of Iraqi documents captured from Iraqi complexes in Iraq. Hardly any have been so much as translated at this point.

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jwhop
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posted March 13, 2006 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean this Kool-Aid man lotus?


WHO CAN TAKE A SUNRISE
SPRINKLE IT WITH DEW
COVER IT IN CHOCOLATE AND A MIRACLE OR TWO
THE KOOL-AID MAN
THE KOOL-AID MAN CAN
THE KOOL-AID MAN CAN 'CAUSE HE MIXES IT WITH LOVE
AND MAKES THE WORLD TASTE GOOD

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 05:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Jwhop that be the one..hehe

I guess what I was getting at..is this..now that the President is forced to deal with all this negativity..it will now trickle sown into blaming others for where we are..so..passing the buck..will happen again..

why does everyOne need someone to blame? The entire government is to blame..we are to blame..why are we so disrespectful..as people in general?

and we can't just leave..Iraq..they have to take responsibility for themselves..it's nice to have the U.S. putting in all that money and help..but come on now, why haven't they gained control?

because they are relying on all that help. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 05:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shows how much I am paying attention..

that is the candy man, ahahahahahahaha

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ozonefiller
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posted March 13, 2006 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well maybe that is the whole problem right there Lotusheartone, the fact that we keep on sending that message that it is OK for the US to occupy Iraq, but the Iraqis just keep on telling us that they don't us want to be there any longer then we have to, but since we have our forces there, it's OK for our military to stay.

Why does this seem like a clear cut case of to "Come closer, but dont come any further" type of mentality?

What is it that they really from us?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ozonefiller..

well, I think everyOne is finally seeing what a mess all of this is..and there is no clear way out..it's wrapped in spies and lies and deceptions from everywhere. ...

even to the point, where now we feel the mess across the World..

Big Heaping Mess..

Perhaps we could bridge the gaps..

The World needs a hug..

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