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maklhouf
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posted March 17, 2006 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the globe really warming? It's springtime going on midwinter in London.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 17, 2006 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it's gonna wobble..on it's axis..because we are out of balance..

Love and Light!

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lotusheartone
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posted March 17, 2006 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you imagine the waves that would make?

Global warming..hmmm..the glaciers are melting..due to our moving position..
I see alot of desert land..and a hazey green sky..but then I also see..some beautiful places..the end is the beginning..

we need an AWakening..of mass proportion..to re-verse the poles. ...

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maklhouf
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posted March 17, 2006 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are making deserts, that's for sure, but actually I'm freezing!

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lotusheartone
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posted March 17, 2006 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well then..here is a warm hug of Love..

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posted March 17, 2006 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We had snow last week here in the Bay Area, California, and that's not normal either.

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proxieme
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posted March 17, 2006 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of climatologists think that if global warming does proceed along projected pathways, the British Isles'll lose their fair clime - the Gulf Steam'll move away from ya'll leaving you to freeze like everyone else at your latitude.

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posted March 17, 2006 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And, no, I'm not saying that that's what's happening now.

Maybe it's just an odd season.

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posted March 17, 2006 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well we had a tornado pass through in Dec. and earlier in the week we had a thunderstorm with hail.

Weather has become increasingly erratic in the past few years. Something is coming...

You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

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posted March 17, 2006 12:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amen-Awomen to that..

sign sign everywhere a sign. ...

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Weather Control
Greats Floods of 1993 Caused by US/Russian Weather Control?

Tesla Weather Control Over America
by C.B. Baker

There is powerful evidence that the GREAT FLOOD 1993 was the result of secret, joint weather-engineering conducted by the Russian and U.S. Governments. The Clinton Administration is utilizing the deluge to TAKE OVER many farms and private land, via a massive expansion of areas subject for Federal wetlands control.

GREAT MIDWEST FLOOD HAD STRANGE AND UNUSUAL CHARACTERISTICS

The Midwest Deluge had anomalous characteristics that were similar to many previous weatherwar operations. Across the Midwest corn-belt, it has rained in Biblical proportions - 49 straight days, often in torrents (18 July 1993, NEW YORK TIMES). "We've got flooding where we haven't seen much before (said Lary Black, a hydrologist for the National Weather Service" - (7 July 1993, NEW YORK TIMES).

The 7 June 1993 NEW YORK TIMES reported that S.K. Nanda, chief hydrologist at the Army's Corps of Engineers at Rock Island, ILL., said that "SUCH MAMMOTH LEVELS OF FLOODING HAVE NEVER BEEN SEEN IN JULY." Almost all of the rain storms were carefully directed away from flood-control storage basins.

Beginning on June 11, a foot of rain fell in southern Minnesota and laser amounts fell in northern Iowa (USA). Four days later, 11 more inches fell in roughly the same area. Both storms also moved east and dumped near- record levels of rain on Wisconsin. Most of the water found its way to the Minnesota River, a Mississippi tributary southwest of St. Paul, but not in any place where the Government had build storage reservoirs. On the east side of the Mississippi, the same sequence occurred in Wisconsin, on the Black River and the Wisconsin River. June 1993 - became the WETTEST IN THIS REGION SINCE RECORD-KEEPING BEGAN IN 1876.

THE CREST OF THE MIGHTY FLOOD WAS PROBABLY THE WORST TO EVER WASH OVER THE U.S.A" (8 October 1993, New York Times). In July 1993 - Satellite pictures found so much water covering the Midwest that the region resembled a sixth Great Lake. Since June, 427 of the 791 counties in the nine-state flood zone have been declared Federal-disaster areas". Severe rainstorms continued to pelt the area through September.

LONG-LASTING BLOCKING SYSTEMS AND ALTERED JET STREAMS ARE TYPICAL WOODPECKER ELF EFFECTS

On 4 July 1976, the Soviet Union began generating powerful electromagnetic transmissions, that were dubbed "The Russian Woodpecker" by Western ham radio operators. These transmitters are based upon the original design of the great scientist, Nikolai Tesla. The Russian signals are primarily pulsed at the very dangerous 10 Hertz Extreme Low Frequency (ELF)...

The Tesla transmitters create giant standing ELF waves that have repeatedly formed huge blocking-system that alter the path of the high altitude jet stream and dam up the normal flow of weather fronts. The Soviet ELF transmitters have been able to create droughts that lasted for months and even years, as well as being able to GENERATE DEVASTATING FLOODS.

Press reports on the causes of 1993's Great Midwest Flood repeatedly described factors that were identical to the previous 17-year history of Woodpecker weatherwar actions.

"Few may know why the area has been plagued with so much rain. The middle and upper parts of the Mississippi Valley have been in what meteorologists call A BLOCKING PATTERN, though they do NOT know why it occurs. While weather systems usually move regularly form west to east across the United States, most weather systems in the last few months HAVE STALLED OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST, said Fred Gadomski, a meteorologist at Pennsylvania State University (4 July 1993 - New York Times).

For five weeks a high-pressure system over the eastern part of the country has been pumping warm moist air from the Gulf of Mexico and dumping thunderstorms over the Midwest, where it meets the jet stream. The rain line is just sagging back and forth between Interstate 70 and 80, said Bill Dieffenbach of the Missouri Conservation Department.

An annotated map of the flood area stated: "AN UNUSUAL SHIFT IN THE JET STREAM, ACTING AS A BARRIER TO A COLD FRONT, HAS BROUGHT 150% TO 200% MORE RAIN THAN NORMAL TO THE REGION" (26 July 1993-Newsweek Magazine).

A weather pattern "has been locked in place for at least six weeks, causing mammoth floods in the Midwest, and parched conditions along the East Coast. The stagnant high-pressure zone has also ACTED LIKE A BARRIER, PREVENTING THE NORMAL FLOW OF WEATHER PATTERNS FROM WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE COUNTRY. Winds, circulating clockwise around the high-pressure dome, have brought moisture from the Gulf of Mexico into the Midwest, feeding the stores there that have brought three times the normal rainfall to the region. The dome has also BLOCKED THE PATH OF COLD CANADIAN WINDS, bringing record low temperatures to the Northwest" (29 July 1993-New York Times).

The 9/93 issue of STORM, THE WORLD WEATHER MAGAZINE carried an important analysis of the big flood that was written by research meteorologist Bob Scot:

"The jet stream during the summer is usually weak, and typically found much farther north in Canada... If the jet stream over Canada were to strengthen and move south at the same time as the high in the Atlantic moved West, the flow of air between the two systems would become more pronounced. This situation would result in additional moisture and rainfall in regions near the jet because warmer, moist air from the south would interact with cooler, dry air from Canada. Furthermore, IF FOR SOME REASON THESE MASSIVE SYSTEMS BECAME SEMI-FIXED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, HEAVY RAINFALL WOULD CONTINUE TO OCCUR ON ALMOST A DAILY BASIS. THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE SPRING AND SUMMER OF 1993."

It is extremely unusual for "weather patterns" to PERSIST for so many weeks, bring heavy rainfall to the same area almost on a daily basis... The reasons for the weather patterns to become fixed, as they did in June and July, 1993, are unclear...

1993 MONSTER FLOOD'S PATH OF DESTRUCTION

"Over 1,00 levees were breached on the Illinois, Mississippi, Missouri and Des Moines Rivers and their tributaries. Over 20 MILLION ACRES OF AGRICULTURE WERE AFFECTED BY THE FLOODS, including 7 million to 8 million acres that were submerged or too wet to be planted. Two-thirds of the nation's corn and soybean crops, grown primarily as livestock feed, are in the flood states" (4 April 1993, Washington Post). 300,000 acres of corn and 600 000 acres of soybeans in Iowa alone were flooded or not planted this year because of wet ground. Even where fields of corn and soybeans appear to be flourishing, yields per acres this fall are expected to be 15 to 25 percent below normal because of late planting caused by cool, wet weather" (8 December 1993, Washington Post).

"Disaster experts say this flood has thus far caused $12 BILLION in farm and property losses, and has driven 50 000 people from their homes" (8 January 1993-New York Times).

The 21 July 1993 - New York Times reported that flood victims "will return to a stinking world of polluted river mud, LACED WITH DIESEL AND SEWAGE.... The recovery for some farmers would be particularly rough because damage to fields, crops, levees and equipment would make it difficult to be ready for next spring's crops. So the flooding could cost them TWO crops instead of one".

The gain southwest blocking system, that played a key part in pumping moisture into the Upper Mississippi Valley, also caused an agricultural drought disaster in southeastern states.

"Midwestern railroads have sustained between $100 and 200 million in flood looses." Many bridges were washed out; up to 500 miles of track has been submerged" (8 April 1993 - Washington Post). Closing the river has severely affected a barge industry already in poor financial condition, and new bankruptcies and mergers could leave only five or six large companies running the freight boats" (15 August 1993 - Washington Post).

Losses from the flood will bankrupt many more farmers and allow the land to be GRABBED up by the big bankers - The 7 September 1993 - Wall Street Journal reported: "Among America's two million farms operators, roughly 10% are considered financially overextended, so economists guess that RAIN WILL WASH OUT THOUSANDS MORE THIS YEAR than the typical annual exodus of 15,000 or so."

The 8 May 1993 Washington Post reported: "THE WIDE SPREAD FLOODING COULD PROVE A DEATH KNELL FOR SOME RURAL COMMUNITIES" said Jack King of the American Farm Bureau's Chicago headquarters... Localized economic disruption may be significant. Bankers expect that many of their farm borrowers WILL HAVE TO SIGNIFICANTLY SELL ASSETS...

TESLA-STYLE ELECTROMAGNETIC WEATHER-ENGINEERING

The June 1981 (Vol.3#1) P.A.C.E. NEWSLETTER reported that Dr. Ralph Markson of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology suggests "that if atmospheric variations do affect the weather, the appropriate use of Extreme Low (ELF) and Very Low (VLF) Frequency radio waves might the same trick".

It is known that VLF (Very Low Frequency) radio waves, such as those generated by lighting, can cause trapped particles to be dumped into the atmosphere by destabilizing plasma in the magnetosphere. Experiments to cause such triggered particle precipitation have been conducted from the space shuttle.

"...Laboratory experiments and modeling indicate they [electrical fields] may play an important role in cloud electrification and coalescence of droplets.... Also, the rate of growth of ice crystals from water vapor is reported to accelerate with increasing electric field intensity."

Dr. Markson's article in the 30 May 1980 SCIENCE MAGAZINE stated: "The earth's fair-weather field, is maintained by worldwide thunderstorm activity. Increases in stratospheric ionization or the intensity of the fair-weather electric field, or both may affect thunderstorm electrification and thus, may lead to physical effects on ice particles and droplets within clouds that could result in changes in the earth's albedo and transformation of atmospheric energy."

THESE COULD AFFECT AIR MOTIONS ON ALL SCALES FROM CONVECTIVE CELLS IN CLOUDS TO THE GENERAL CIRCULATION... There is a global circuit, sometimes refereed to as the Wilson circuit, in which the ionosphere is maintained at a positive potential, generally in the range 200 to 300 kilovolts, relative to the earth. In the non-thunderstorm (fair-weather) portions of the atmosphere, a return conduction current flows between the ionosphere and the earth, AND THE CIRCUIT IS COMPLETED BETWEEN THE CONDUCTING EARTH AND THE BASES OF THUNDERCLOUDS through a combination of conduction, convection, lightning, point discharge and precipitation currents. The charge, put on the earth by thunderstorms, maintains the earth's electric field and the ionospheric potential.

This natural global circuit, was discovered by Nickolai Tesla in the 1890's. The Tesla system involves utilizing giant magnifying transmitters to act as global generators and ARTIFICIALLY create the same global electromagnetic circuit functions that are NATURALLY created by thunderstorm activity. The April 1969 issue of SPECTRUM, a publication of the prestigious institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) carried an article by Aeronautical Engineer, Seymour Tilson, which stated: "Workers in the fields of atmospheric electricity and cloud physics have accumulated sufficient evidence to suggest that electric fields, forces and changes in the earth's lower atmosphere play a critical role - perhaps the critical role - in the development and behavior of clouds that produce precipitation. This in turn, suggests that manipulation of the electrical properties clouds may someday provide the long-sought key to modification of weather by man."

One of the first scientists to sound the alarm about Soviet weatherwar actions was Dr. Andrew Michrowski of the Planetary Association for Clean Energy (P.A.C.E.). After establishing monitoring stations across Canada, Michrowski sent out a February 1978 letter stating: "In the case of the winter of 1976-77, the Soviet managed to establish relatively stable and localized ELF (extremely low frequency) magnetic fields, WHICH WERE ABLE TO HAMPER OR DIVERT THE JET STREAM FLOW IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.

The fronts were localized along the Polish and Romanian borders, along the Gulf Stream between South Caroline and mid-and off the West Coast of North America between Baja California and the Alaskan coast... THIS PERMITTED GREAT DIVERSION OF AIR MOVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE OF HIGH AND LOW PRESSURE AREA.. FOR LONG PERIODS.

In the case of the winter of 1977-78, the Soviet scientists involved had the ingenious idea of setting up one series of standing columnar waves that extend form the Westerly tip of Alaska all the way to Valparaiso, Chile. This columnar wave front... is projected from near Angarsk, Siberia.

It has created a world-wide weather modification, in that east of this formation the weather is drier, and west of it, PRECIPITATION IS ENHANCED. As the standing columnar waves rotate clockwise, Westerly winds are sucked upwards counter-clockwise into the upper-atmosphere, while a drag brings air from the upper atmosphere to the opposite side. The giant standing wave segments were approximately 250 miles long. To the west, of the standing wave, we note a rising low pressure circumstance, and to the east, the descending high pressure."

THE ABOVE DESCRIPTION IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE GREAT FLOOD OF 1993, where the area west of the giant standing wave blocking unending rain and the area east of that standing wave system experienced caseless drought.

Dr. Michrowski's 1978 letter continued: "At the same time, this formation cut diagonally the magnetic field of this planet, thus disrupting the normal dynamic of the whole, and creating a vast territory of the earth, a havoc of proper weather prediction, since the critical factor of local magnetic influence on weather has become extremely variable".

In his July 1979, P.A.C.E. NEWSLETTER, Dr. Michrowski provided additional information about the Russian Woodpecker system. "At least five USSR installations are operating simultaneously up to 24 hours daily, since July 1976, with an intensity of up to 40 MILLION WATTS (the most powerful transmitters in the world). These emit pulses ranging from 5 to 26 hertz (ELF). At least eleven carrier frequencies are involved, some of which are random...The installations appear to act in liaison with the highly magnetic MHO apparati located at Semipalatinsk.

The magnetic component appears to be able to siphon and pump 60 Hz electric power transmission system, indicating a Luxembourg effect mechanism. Magnetic field impulses demonstrate no time lag when compared with the other USSR emissions components normal radio wave propagation. THIS SUGGESTS RESONANCE WITH EARTH-IONOSPHERE CAVITY AND CORE..."

THE HIDDEN WEATHER-ENGINEERING FUNCTION OF THE GROUND WAVE EMERGENCY NETWORK.

In the 1980's the Federal Government undertook the construction of a nation wide network of Groung Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) towers. The official purpose of these towers is to maintain defense communications in the event of a nuclear attack upon the Unites States. These is strong evidence that these GWEN towers have hidden weather-engineering functions...

GWEN TOWERS AND THE GREAT FLOOD OF 1993

Depending upon the specific local geological formations, the continuous signals of the GWEN antenna are clearly capable of altering the magnetic field within a 200 to 250-mile radius of certain units. As documented, alterations of the earth's magnetic field can strongly influence precipitation.

The November 1980 BULLETIN OF THE ATOMIC SCIENTISTS listed some of the GWEN tower locations. Of extreme significance were GWEN units directly in the middle of the high rainfall area. Although not all towers are completed, some of these units were on line and functioning when the Russian Woodpecker system altered the jet stream and set up the long lasting weather-blocks in 1993. Some operating and planned GWEN unit locations are at: Mechanicsville, Iowa; Ledyard, Iowa; Chelsea, Wisconsin; Shephard, Minnesota, Curryville and Dudley, Missouri; Whitney, Nebraska and other units in Colorado and Montana, whose range could influence the magnetic fields in neighboring states. A total of ten GWEN units are in the Midwest.

The existence of working GWEN units inside the area targeted by the Russian Woodpecker weather-war transmitters greatly enhanced and helped to maintain (by altering certain local magnetic fields) the constant precipitation levels inside the Upper Mississippi Valley. Thus, US Government GWEN Units made a significant contribution to creating the Great Flood of 1993.

US-SOVIET JOINT WEATHER-MANIPULATION ONGOING SINCE 1971

The United States and the Soviet Union began secret cooperation on world weather-engineering in 1971. The next year, US and Soviet scientific teams conducted research in the Bering Sea. The second project was POLEX, the Polar Experiment of the Global Atmospheric Research Program. In 1973, both nations secretly cooperated on AIDJEX, the Arctic Ice Dynamics Joint Experiment...

NEW WORLD ORDER GLOBALISTS SUPPORT WEATHERWAR AGAINST AMERICA

The 1970 book, BETWEEN TWO AGES, by Zbigniew Brzezinski (the founding director of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission) stated: "Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised... TECHNIQUES OF WEATHER MODIFICATION COULD BE EMPLOYED TO PRODUCE PROLONGED PERIODS OF DROUGHT OR STORM," which is exactly what has happened in America, following the commencement of the Soviet Woodpecker transmissions. A 1977 official Trilateral Commission publication described increased Trilateral-Communist - "cooperation in the area of WEATHER MODIFICATION."

During 1989, World Bank President Barber Conable (member of the Trilateral Commission) made a speech in Tokyo at a conference on "Global Environment". In that speech he revealed the long-range goals of the international bankers. He said that "while higher temperatures may cause a number of natural disasters, THEY MIGHT ALSO WARM COLD AND UNPRODUCTIVE LANDS IN THE NORTH INTO PRODUCTIVITY" (9 December 1989, Washington Post). This candid admission described the real reason that the Soviets, and New World Order gang have secretly promoted continuous weather-engineering over the Northern Hemisphere since the early 1970's....

http://www.geocities.com/area51/shadowlands/6583/project338.html


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salome
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Can the Russians Control the Weather?
How cloud seeding works.
By Daniel Engber

Always take the weather with you

Last weekend, Russian president Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian Air Force to keep it from raining over Moscow in advance of Monday's military parade. The Air Force used a procedure called cloud seeding, and Russia's defense minister later took credit for Monday's sunshine. Can the Russians really control the weather?

They can try. Proponents of "cloud seeding" say it's possible to induce rain and snow (after which clouds can break up and disappear), suppress hail, and clear up patches of fog. Twenty or 30 countries run cloud-seeding operations of some sort; China has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on weather manipulation over the last decade. The bureau in charge of cloud seeding in Thailand reportedly has 600 staff-members and a $25 million budget. No federal funds go toward cloud seeding in America, but a handful of states finance projects locally. Utah just kicked in for $400,000 worth of weather control projects.

Here's how it works: Rain starts as tiny droplets of water suspended in clouds. Then the droplets clump together into bigger drops (or freeze together into bigger crystals). Once the drops or crystals are big and heavy enough, they fall out of the sky. The frozen drops can melt on the way down, becoming rain, or they can fall to the ground as snow. Cloud seeding aims to jump-start this process by helping droplets to clump or freeze together when they otherwise wouldn't.

Cloud seeders use a number of procedures. In the mid-1940s, three scientists at General Electric (including the novelist Kurt Vonnegut's brother Bernie) showed that by injecting dry ice into a cloud, you could freeze tiny droplets of water, which would in turn make it easier for other droplets to glom on and freeze as well. Later experiments showed that silver iodide—which has a crystal structure similar to that of ice—could also help, by forming "ice nuclei" upon which droplets might freeze.

To induce rain with dry ice, you would fly a plane over a small cloud and sprinkle down a few cups' worth of dry ice pellets. To seed with silver iodide, you'd vaporize a solution at high temperatures and disperse it in the cloud. This can be done using silver iodide flares, which are dropped 8 or 10 at a time from above the cloud, or with silver-iodide-filled rockets or anti-aircraft shells. If you're seeding clouds over a mountain, you can use generators on the ground which release silver iodide vapor into the air currents that rise up one side of the mountain and into the clouds.

Silver iodide and dry ice are examples of "glaciogenic" agents, and they only help to produce rain in clouds of sufficiently low temperatures. For warmer clouds—in which droplets don't freeze before falling—cloud seeders can use sprays of saline solution to attract droplets and, theoretically, to induce rain.

It's difficult to prove whether cloud seeding actually has any effect. Weather phenomena are so variable that slight changes in the probability of rain are difficult to measure, and not many careful, controlled studies have been done. The U.S. federal government was at one time very optimistic about weather manipulation; by the late 1970s, annual funding for cloud-seeding projects hit $20 million. But after years without definitive results, interest in Washington has evaporated (except, perhaps, among the people who introduced this bill in the Senate in early March). Some studies have suggested that cloud seeding actually reduces rainfall, or merely redistributes it. A 2003 report from the National Research Council concluded that while cloud seeding may hold promise, we still don't know very much about it.

http://www.slate.com/id/2118533/

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posted March 17, 2006 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO... The Russian's couldn't even control food lines so I doubt they'd have the brains to control the weather ...

Then again, I'll bet all the TV meteorologists are really Russian spies sent here to give us the wrong weather reports.... Hmmmm, I knew something was wrong when they would say 80% chance of rain and it would be sunny.

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salome
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Chinese conducting weather warfare research
East-Asia-Intel.com, March 8, 2006

China’s military is examining closely the use of weather conditions in warfare, two Chinese military meteorologists reported last month.
Luo Jian, associate professor at the PLA University of Science and Technology, said that understanding and exploiting weather conditions played a key role in the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Asked about the "weather weapon," Wang Weimin, associate professor from the same university, said theories and experiments relating to "weather weapons" include man-made ozone holes, acid rainfall, man-manipulated ionospheres and man-altered storm paths.

Wang acknowledged that a 1977 international convention banned the metrological applications in warfare. However, he stated that all wars will have negative environmental impact anyway and that other countries have never stopped weather weapon research.

Wang said theoretical research on "weather weapons can be conducted but the actual use of the arms should not be taking lightly."

Luo Jian has conducted research on tropical weather, processing meteorological information and automation of military meteorological systems.

Wang has conducted research on studies of atmospheric physics, atmospheric environment and the space environment.

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posted March 17, 2006 01:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poor poor Mother Earth....

I heard it said last week that it is too late.....the damge is now done......

How tragic !!

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Be of good cheer, Sue....

...and Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone else who will be wearing the green today.....

Love,
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maklhouf
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posted March 20, 2006 09:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the info Salome. I am convinced that the weather is being messed up big time. Unfortunately the nasty cold stuff in March, that we are getting in the UK is all too depressingly NORMAL

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sue g
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posted March 20, 2006 09:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow

Thankyou !!!!

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posted March 20, 2006 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alaskans know beyond a shadow of a doubt that climate change is real.

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posted March 20, 2006 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no doubt that climate change is real...it's the supposed causes of it that I take issue with.

I just don't think we have a sufficient understanding of weather cycles on the planet over the long term to really know to what extent we are affecting the environment.

And one thing I think that detracts from the issue are people who vehemently claim the sky is falling, and pick on a limited number of culprits (usually the US, closely followed by "the west"), while ignoring for example the gross unregulated pollution generated by developing countries like China and India. It's hard to take one seriously when they demonize the US for polluting/causing global warming, but nary a word is said about places like Mexico City, Hong Kong, Bejing, or Mumbai.

I think weather patterns are altering, I see it happening all over the place, but whether it's global warming caused by humans or a natural meteorological cycle or it has something to do w/ precession or a combination of all of the above, I just couldn't say, and it doesn't seem many "experts" can either...

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posted March 20, 2006 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Isis... you make TOO much sense. Don't you know that isn't what the anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American people want to hear?

They want conspiracy (especially any one that may be remotely linked to Bush, Rumsfield and Cheney) LOL.... they want to believe that someone ELSE is controlling the weather because it is too logical to believe that there is a pattern that the Earth has been following for thousands of years. Rather than buy into the fact that climates change (think dinosaurs and extinction) and people / organisms adapt, it is easier to BLAME someone / country.

Well.... Maybe our future generations will figure it out.

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posted March 21, 2006 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a fact that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas.
Even if humans aren't the sole cause of climate change, there can be no doubt that we are contributing to it.
The amount of additional carbon dioxide that is released into the atmosphere as a result of human activities is staggering and to not make an attempt to reduce that amount is just plain foolhardy.
It's as simple as that.

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posted March 21, 2006 10:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many of us, walk instead of driving?..when possible

How may of you garden? and can for winter

if we don't re-verse some things..well they will be reversed by the Universal Laws..we are smart enough to fix this..
the question is..How many people are willing to fix it?

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posted March 21, 2006 01:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 inches of snow and counting...yet two days ago it was around 60 degress.

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posted March 21, 2006 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah... we had 3.5 inches of snow down here in Southeastern Arizona (We are 8 miles from the Mexican border). Tucson, Gila, Cochise and a couple other places had a nice snow storm on Sunday.

We are a bit up in elevation, but it's been a damn cold winter and to have snow in March is crazy. This time last year we were already heating up and preparing for the monsoons. LOL...

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