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ozonefiller
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posted April 09, 2006 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...when it comes to being a musician.

Believe me when I tell you that it is not the liberal life that conservatives would like to believe, you would even be amazed on how liberalism and conservatism collide and to that, one would have to wonder how one would servive in such a world!

It's alot of hard work, plus you are looked at like as if your from out of somewhere beyond the human race, but you always have to keep on working no matter what, unless you become what they call an "icon" in this business!

The only reason why I'm saying all this, is for the fact that I read something that you have written and I can't disagree so much, for I have myself have seen this and I know how hard life can be when you are a musician.

Just don't knock us down so fast, until you have been in our shoes, that's all I'm asking.

Make no mistake, if being a musician of any kind was so easy, everybody would be doing it, like anything else that looks good, sometimes too good!

So, don't kill the messenger, just because you don't like the message sometimes.

Please.

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sue g
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posted April 09, 2006 11:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is JW......Jwhop?

And I agree with your comments Ozone.....struggling artists and all that.....tis a very difficult path.

My music teacher is an amazing fiddle player, and was it not for his ability to teach, he would make virtually no living out of just playing.....even though people are keen to listen to him.

Stay positive and keep on keeping on.....

Keep the faith.......

I so admire people who have the courage to express themselves thro music and the arts. Anyone can work in an office/shop environment......but to have musical ability is a GIFT.

XXX

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ozonefiller
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posted April 09, 2006 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I've playing guitar for a few years now and I've been coming up with some pretty nice riffs for one to play just an acoustic Fender really, but I've seen alot of frustration in this field with alot of other bands trying to keep it together, trying to be together is one of the hardest things to do!

I've noticed that there are alot of musicians around here too, so I suppose that alot of people here can "feel my pain"!

Most of the time I just read and write some tabs.

Here's a well known riff from one of my favorite bands, see if you can guess who this is, song and artist(for those who have some strings laying around)!

Repeat 6x

--p2-----0--h5p--0----0-h2----h4p-0---0--
-----h3-----------h3------h3------h3----
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----------------------------------------
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I don't know whether or not this will come out right on this post, but let us give it a try anyway!

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sue g
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posted April 09, 2006 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey

Strings on my mans acoustic guitar bust at moment so cant figure out yer tune.


SO....you gonna have to put me outta me misery and tell me what sort of music you play.....

Please !!

My man is into playing metal in varying degrees (thrash, death etc)

I love all sorts of music and am very drawn to musicians.....

Am learning to play fiddle, but very slow to catch on to it....

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AcousticGod
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posted April 09, 2006 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I'm not big on tab, and I don't think I've even seen it written that way (with the 'p's and the 'h's), so I can't figure it out either. I'm more of a chord guy - learned piano first. If I'm learning a cover and there's a guitar melody involved, I just learn it by ear.

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ozonefiller
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posted April 09, 2006 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the Ps are pull-offs and the Hs are hammer-ons, normally I don't put the Ps,H, and or Bs(bends) side by side with the fret(the numbers of what I wrote), but because of this particular riff, I had to.

It's the cool sounding riff from the song "Spirit of Radio" by Rush, I think that the speed is only 1/4 or 1/2, I know that it isn't as fast with the finger play as it sounds(that's where the pull-offs come in for that), but I like it nonetheless!

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jwhop
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posted April 10, 2006 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ozone, I have no idea why you would direct this thread to me. Care to let me in on your little secret?

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sue g
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posted April 10, 2006 03:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ozone

I love Rush.....do you know 2112......so COOL.....

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ozonefiller
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posted April 10, 2006 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it is this comment that I was assuming that you were talking about when you said:

quote:
Why are you whining about no one responding to your Cheney thread? Are you really upset that Cheney wants certain items in his hotel room, meager requests at that? Perhaps it would be fun to see what some of the entertainers you idolize demand.

I figured that you were talking about musicians at the top(sort of, kind of)in genenal, which you couldn't be so wrong about. Most of they're lives are so hectic, they don't even have time for much of anything when they are on the road. Everything musicians have they get however does come out of they're own pocket, with the help of all that is apart of they're tours that they go on to.

It's a lonely life too at that, sometimes the only people they get to talk too when they're in that realm, is those that are giving them interviews and that is about it.

But if your talking about something else however, then I apologize JW.

I know 2112 SueG, the Overture reminds me of an "rock operatic" of the song "1812" though and the fact that the concept of the album is nothing really new of a one world government that is in control of all indivisualism in the distant future and some person in that time discovers an artifact(in this case, an electric guitar which gets destroyed in the story)that changes the whole perspective of that person's and finds that the world that person is living in, is not as great as she/he would like to percieve. But still cannot change the world for that fact nonetheless, thus decides to commit suicide as an escape from the world that he/she is in.

Very sad story indeed!

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posted April 10, 2006 08:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got one of my crazy ideas again. What if a talented musician studies his natal chart and just plays the music he/she thinks represents each house in that chart, according to the planets/asteroids in that chart? And why not a group of astrominded musicians get together to compose such music for the astrologically inclined?

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ozonefiller
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posted April 10, 2006 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I gotta laugh...

It has already been done by a Brittish composer named Gustav Holst with The Planets and added on a piece called "Pluto, The Renewer" in the later years.

I don't think it is done in such detail as your explaining Iqhunk, but the music closely resembles that of the signs that are ruled by the subjects that these songs denote.

But it is a excellent idea though!

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sue g
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posted April 11, 2006 05:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

Yeah an excellent idea indeed.....WOW......!!!!

Ozone, are you part of a band and do you do gigs and get people to hear your stuff....

2112.....sad indeed....and aint the lead singer got such a cool voice....very tight underpants I wouldnt wonder.


LOL !!!!!

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posted April 11, 2006 08:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read the link! Gustav has composed a generic masterpiece. What I am saying is composing your own chart.
Mercury in Aries will sound different from Mercury in Cancer. Aspects represented by use of different add on instruments/beats.

Pluto in Scoprio trine Uranus can be like a classical scary movie soundtrack interspersed with Clint Eastwood western whistles.

My logic is that if you can put your maximum creative input into composing your own charts symphony, you will open your consciousness to never before imagined inspirations.

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AcousticGod
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posted April 11, 2006 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would be wild IQ. It's a great idea.

It would be challenging to express some of those energies.

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ozonefiller
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posted April 11, 2006 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Yeah, Geddy Lee(the singer)has a pretty interesting tone to his singing SueG, but I think that he was better in the older cuts that Rush has done in they're earier career. I know that alot of people thought that(since his voice was so high)that he was a woman and I've been in arguements with people over the fact, but one shouldn't argue about Rush with a "Rush" head!

I've done studio fill-ins for other bands on bass, that pretty much explains why I'm so big on tabs so much, where I tend to mainly favor pull-offs,hammer-ons and bends in my playing, rather then chords! I once had a 1977 bass Fender stratocaster, quarter sized tuner-keys, double pick-up, with oak fret-board and black finish. The thing so immense, you can literly surf on it!

I don't know about that Iqhunk, it might work out, but I wonder how one would able to name the pieces for the music. That is something to think about.

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