posted April 27, 2006 01:40 PM            

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was shepherded through Congress by Woodrow Wilson...a democrat, who considered it one of the crowning achievements of his Presidency.

There have been other democrat Presidents in the interval between 1913 and 2006.

Neither Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Carter or Clinton lifted a finger to repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

So Mirandee, your attempt to cast this as a Republican SNAFU is laughable.

If your little leftist twit writer had mentioned the illegality of the Federal Reserve in his article, one would assume you would have posted that...since this thread is all about the fed fraud. Your take, that you didn't want to increase the length of the article you posted isn't persuasive.

Sometimes I don't post an entire article but if I do that, I put the part quoted in quotation marks or indicate there is more..like this............

However if you would like to post what you left out of the article alleging fed fraud and illegality, please do so.

As for Bush and the Fed, I see nothing inconsistant in Bush appointing business and banking people to the Governors Board, nor is it cronyism to place people you know in positions of authority. In fact, that makes more sense than an unknown.

I disagree there should be a Fed or a Fed Board of Governors in the first place.

One of the most important functions of Congress was to be the control of the American money supply and by extension, the economy...the elected/appointed representatives of the people who could vote them the hell out if they screwed it up.

posted December 19, 2007 02:39 AM              

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Linking the fed to the British Crown is another non starter.

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here is a list of banks who have stock in the
Fed Reserve

The Federal Reserve is PRIVATELY OWNED by Thomas D. Schauf ( an american CPA) http://www.freewebs.com/rumorsconspiracybooks/Folder1/The%20Federal%20Reserve%20is%20PRIVATELY%20OWNED%20by%20Thomas%20D%20Schauf.pdf

THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to coin (create) money and regulate the value thereof. Today however, the FED, which is a privately owned company, controls and profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value. The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners (stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison (Reference 1, 14). The FED banking system collects billions of dollars (Reference 8, 17) in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money (through the Treasury) at no interest to the FED. The FED creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud (Reference 1,2,3,5,17). Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: Rothschild Bank of London Warburg Bank of Hamburg Rothschild Bank of Berlin Lehman Brothers of New York Lazard Brothers of Paris Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy Goldman, Sachs of New York Warburg Bank of Amsterdam Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152) These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they planned to control us by
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controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt (Reference 4, 22). The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank. (Reference 22) First National Bank of New York James Stillman National City Bank, New York Mary W. Harnman National Bank of Commerce, New York A.D. Jiullard Hanover National Bank, New York Jacob Schiff Chase National Bank, New York Thomas F. Ryan Paul Warburg William Rockefeller Levi P. Morton M.T. Pyne George F. Baker Percy Pyne Mrs. G.F. St. George J.W. Sterling Katherine St. George H.P. Davidson J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life) Edith Brevour T. Baker (Reference 4 for above, Reference 22 has details, P. 92, 93, 96, 179) How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act. In 1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation (Reference 3, 4, 5). When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully replied (referring to the FED), "I have unwittingly ruined my country" (Reference 17, P. 31). Now the banks financially back sympathetic candidates. Not surprisingly, most of these candidates are elected (Reference 1, P. 208-210, Reference 12, P. 235,

another surprise more than 75 % of the American Presidents since Washington are related to the Royal British Family

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Neither Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Carter or Clinton lifted a finger to repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913

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posted December 27, 2007 03:42 AM              

Then why honor their money? Why honor their contracts their laws or any of that other stuff? Why? Because everyone else will?

Tsk tsk..

posted December 27, 2007 05:06 AM            

If it ain't worth being uncomfortable for, why not just throw your PC into the trash, along with everything else you bought w/ American currency?

It's not that I don't agree w/ you on certain points, here and there, but although I see that you're trying to provoke thought with some of your comments, you fail on the other hand to see the hypocrisy in the standard you seem to expect from others that you don't even uphold, and you do it all w/ a "Tsk tsk sheesh".

posted December 27, 2007 11:41 AM            

Federal Reserve Notes are not the money of account of the United States...in fact, these notes are more along the lines of promissory notes which are circulating like they are money.

The US needs a circulating medium of exchange. Our economy is far too large for a barter system which only can work in a small closed society.

The real fight is to inform citizens of the fraud being imposed on them in sufficient numbers they will throw the bast@rds out of the Congress of the United States if Congress does not repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and institute a Constitutional monetary system controlled by the Congress.

Those who suggest we shouldn't use the Fed's so called money are suggesting what??? Exactly what are they suggesting? Are they suggesting we use the constitutional money supply already out there...gold and silver coins? Those coins have a face value and no one is going to give any extra value for them...unless you are selling them to exchange for fed money. In exchange for food, clothing or anything else, you will get exactly the face value in exchange which would put you at a severe economic disadvantage.

venusdeindia, not many people know the fed is a private corporation. It was only in the 1970's or so that a case came to the courts where it was ruled the federal reserve is a private corporation. You will never find that being taught in any American school nor will you find the fed being audited. It's hard to find anyone in Congress even questioning the actions or legality of the Fed.

I think you're right about Kennedy. Certainly, he was talking about a gigantic fraud being imposed on American citizens...enough to get him killed and I think that's what actually happened.

Were it up to me, every member and every executive officer of the Fed or any Fed bank would spend the rest of their lives in a federal prison.

Isis, I think you're right. I'm not going to starve myself to death or trash everything I have which is tied to federal reserve notes.

Tsk, tsk indeed.

posted December 27, 2007 05:39 PM              

Then I guess it's settled. None of us wants to get rid of these notes or the necessities that we're pretty much forced to buy with those same notes.

So what are we complaining for again? Just to blow off steam? The cattle are lowing..that sort of thing?

If we won't or can't do anything..isn't this pointless?

I mean we can talk about how Knoxx sold out his own country, tying us to an illegal income tax in order to ensure the Fed's prompt payment until we're blue in the face.

If we're not willing to do anything about it..then it's a worthless exercise in bitching and moaning.

You yourself said so on another thread Jw.

posted December 27, 2007 05:50 PM            

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My views on the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 are well known and have nothing to do with Bush, Republicans, Democrats, leftists or rightists.
Those who scammed the American public in 1913 are beyond the reach of any punishment for their treason. Giving control of the printing and circulation of a nations money to a non governmental body is treason as it's directed against the interests of the people and specifically forbidden by the Constitution; which states in part, "Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof". It doesn't say a word about Congress handing the power off to a non accountable private corporation or corporations.

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posted December 27, 2007 08:20 PM              

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What can WE do about it?? What can *I* do about it in my own small way, today??

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See? Now that's a good question.

Azalaksh is my new hero.

(Ok maybe just my Fridge Magnet of the Week.)

daf

P.S. Suggestion: What I used to do is wait for Alan Greenspan to come out of his office at the end of the day, shake my head in disappointment and point at my watch to indicate that he's running out of time.

posted December 28, 2007 11:00 AM            

The obvious first step is making sure your congressman/woman and Senators repeal the Act.

The way to make sure this happens is to write them...real letters not email and get them on record as either opposing or supporting repeal.

Next step is to unelect those who are in the pocket of the Fed in the next election cycle when they are up for reelection....and question every person who is running for a seat in the House or Senate as to whether they oppose repeal of the Fed. Obviously, you wouldn't give your vote to those who would not sponsor a bill of repeal and vote for it.

In my opinion the repeal of this Act is the most pressing issue we have on our plate. The consequenses of having a private banking cartel in control of the US money supply and money issue..illegally...is enormous.

The problem is that Federal Reserve Notes are not money at all. Those notes are a fiat currency having no intrinsic value whatsoever.