posted May 04, 2006 11:28 AM            

When he testified in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee his words amounted to an accusation the United States military was engaged in endemic atrocities in Vietnam. He cited 150 US military personnel who came forward to say so and relate their own accounts of what they had done and what they had seen...as well as what he had done...and said he had seen.

Kerry is a liar. The US military tried to run down through Kerry's list of 150 to investigate the allegations. They found the people who signed the statement either didn't exist at all, or were never in Vietnam at all..including a guy named Hubbard who was second in command of Kerry's protest group...or were not in the military.
Of the list, one...who came forward in 2004 really was in Vietnam and he said Kerry and members of Kerry's treasonous group pressured him to lie about what he had seen and done in Vietnam.

I've been all through this in 2004 and have no intention of doing the research again but this is part of a transcript of Kerry's testimony. In his testimony, Kerry admits to meeting with members of the communist North Vietnamese government in Paris...and discussing their "peace terms"...which Kerry endorsed against the "peace terms" put forth by the United States. That meeting between Kerry and the enemy government of North Vietnam was a violation of US law and the Uniform Code of Military Justice in that Kerry was not directed by the Military or the United States to do so. It was Kerry getting instructions from his communist leaders.

John Kerry is a traitor and the fact Kerry wasn't tried for his treason is immaterial to the fact. Just as a person who sets about to deliberately kill someone and does so..is a murderer..whether that person is ever tried for first degree murder or not. But, giving aid and comfort to the enemy disqualifies one from ever holding an office of the United States or any state.

"Mr. Kerry: I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

This is not exaggeration. This is a lie and it's a lie which influenced the press, the Congress and demonstrators against the war. Demonstrators led by, funded by and directed by the communist governments of North Vietnam and the Soviet Union...including Kerry's group. It gave aid and comfort to the enemy and gave a black eye to America. That IS the very essence of treason.

"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3875422

It is the hallmark of leftists/communists/socialists/collectivists everywhere that when one of them tells a lie, that lie must be endorsed by other leftists/communists/socialists/collectivists,no matter how false, no matter if the lie is later proven to be an absolute damned lie, the big lie must be sustained if that lie is directed against the United States. On that, score Kerry and leftists are in full sync and Kerry is still lying about the United States, the US military and leftists/communists/socialists/collectivists still support the lies and treason of John Kerry.

In the aftermath of the US withdrawal of troops from Vietnam, about 2 million South Vietnamese people lost their lives as they were slaughtered by the communists of North Vietnam. Slaughter, which is an instrument used by communist governments to deal with anyone who doesn't agree with them or who won't bow down and accept their new status as slaves of the communist state.

In addition to those, about 2 million Cambodians also lost their lives as Pot Pol instituted a reign of terror in Cambodia..in the absence of any US military forces in the South East Asia area...purifying the land of non communists and even other communists who were NOT ideologically pure enough for Pot Pol.

posted May 04, 2006 12:51 PM            

As far as your other remark goes Mirandee; John Kerry and the 150 liars who signed his list were definitely NOT serving their country when they lied. Kerry in front of a Congressional Committee and the others who were no where near Vietnam. So stuff that argument.

posted May 05, 2006 02:00 AM              

Just for your information Mirandee. I had NO military obligation, was in no danger of being drafted, was married and had a child. I joined the California Army Guard thinking my unit probably would be called to active duty.

I would say you were pretty safe, Jwhop.

No massive call-ups of National Guard troops occurred to meet the country's military manpower requirements during the Vietnam War. Mobilization of large numbers of Guardsmen would have been inconsistent with President Lyndon B. Johnson's attempt to portray the war as a limited conflict that could be fought with resources already available to the regular Army. Johnson chose to rely on an increased draft and a one-year tour of duty rotation policy to fight the Vietnam War instead of activating significant numbers of National Guardsmen.

There were only 7,040 Army Guard mobilized for Viet Nam and that was just for the Tet invasion of South Vietnam. Those Army Guard that were called in to aide the regular army were there from May 13, 1968 to Dec. 12,1969 when they were released from active duty.

Being married and having a child did not necessarily keep anyone from being drafted during the many years that the Vietnam war went on. There were a lot of men who fought in Vietnam who had one or more children. A friend of mine who had a wife and baby was drafted and died in Vietnam.