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Petron
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posted May 22, 2006 05:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
North American Union to Replace USA?

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006



President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.

President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union:

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At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts.

What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005:

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In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.


The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.

The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated:

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The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.

Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox.

Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him?

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965


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Petron
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posted May 22, 2006 05:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Plan to Replace the Dollar With the 'Amero'

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 22, 2006


The idea to form the North American Union as a super-NAFTA knitting together Canada, the United States and Mexico into a super-regional political and economic entity was a key agreement resulting from the March 2005 meeting held at Baylor University in Waco, Tex., between President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin.

A joint statement published by the three presidents following their Baylor University summit announced the formation of an initial entity called, “The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” (SPP). The joint statement termed the SPP a “trilateral partnership” that was aimed at producing a North American security plan as well as providing free market movement of people, capital, and trade across the borders between the three NAFTA partners:

We will establish a common approach to security to protect North America from external threats, prevent and respond to threats within North America, and further streamline the secure and efficient movement of legitimate, low-risk traffic across our borders.

A working agenda was established:

We will establish working parties led by our ministers and secretaries that will consult with stakeholders in our respective countries. These working parties will respond to the priorities of our people and our businesses, and will set specific, measurable, and achievable goals.

The U.S. Department of Commerce has produced a SPP website, which documents how the U.S. has implemented the SPP directive into an extensive working agenda.

Following the March 2005 meeting in Waco, Tex., the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) published in May 2005 a task force report titled “Building a North American Community.” We have already documented that this CFR task force report calls for a plan to create by 2010 a redefinition of boundaries such that the primary immigration control will be around the three countries of the North American Union, not between the three countries. We have argued that a likely reason President Bush has not secured our border with Mexico is that the administration is pushing for the establishment of the North American Union.

The North American Union is envisioned to create a super-regional political authority that could override the sovereignty of the United States on immigration policy and trade issues. In his June 2005 testimony to the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Robert Pastor, the Director of the Center for North American Studies at American University, stated clearly the view that the North American Union would need a super-regional governance board to make sure the United States does not dominate the proposed North American Union once it is formed:

NAFTA has failed to create a partnership because North American governments have not changed the way they deal with one another. Dual bilateralism, driven by U.S. power, continue to govern and irritate. Adding a third party to bilateral disputes vastly increases the chance that rules, not power, will resolve problems.

This trilateral approach should be institutionalized in a new North American Advisory Council. Unlike the sprawling and intrusive European Commission, the Commission or Council should be lean, independent, and advisory, composed of 15 distinguished individuals, 5 from each nation. Its principal purpose should be to prepare a North American agenda for leaders to consider at biannual summits and to monitor the implementation of the resulting agreements.

Pastor was a vice chairman of the CFR task force that produced the report “Building a North American Union.”

Pastor also proposed the creation of a Permanent Tribunal on Trade and Investment with the view that “a permanent court would permit the accumulation of precedent and lay the groundwork for North American business law.” The intent is for this North American Union Tribunal would have supremacy over the U.S. Supreme Court on issues affecting the North American Union, to prevent U.S. power from “irritating” and retarding the progress of uniting Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. into a new 21st century super-regional governing body.

Robert Pastor also advises the creation of a North American Parliamentary Group to make sure the U.S. Congress does not impede progress in the envisioned North American Union. He has also called for the creation of a North American Customs and Immigration Service which would have authority over U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) within the Department of Homeland Security.

Pastor’s 2001 book “Toward a North American Community” called for the creation of a North American Union that would perfect the defects Pastor believes limit the progress of the European Union. Much of Pastor’s thinking appears aimed at limiting the power and sovereignty of the United States as we enter this new super-regional entity. Pastor has also called for the creation of a new currency which he has coined the “Amero,” a currency that is proposed to replace the U.S. dollar, the Canadian dollar, and the Mexican peso.

If President Bush had run openly in 2004 on the proposition that a prime objective of his second term was to form the North American Union and to supplant the dollar with the “Amero,” we doubt very much that President Bush would have carried Ohio, let alone half of the Red State majority he needed to win re-election. Pursuing any plan that would legalize the conservatively estimated 12 million illegal aliens now in the United States could well spell election disaster for the Republican Party in 2006, especially for the House of Representative where every seat is up for grabs.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15017

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Petron
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posted May 22, 2006 06:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"I pledge allegiance to el bandera,
of the United States of North America.... eh?
and to the Unión for which it stands...
tres nationales under uno Creator,borderless...
with libertad, justicia, and citizenship for all...eh?"

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DayDreamer
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posted May 22, 2006 06:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what to think of this. Funny looking flag though.

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Rainbow~
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posted May 22, 2006 10:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron....

It's not the first time I've heard this....

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Mirandee
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posted May 22, 2006 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to give this some thought because at first glance it sounds wonderful to me to have a united continent with joint cooperation and no borders except for the continent itself. A unity among the peoples sounds great. However, it might be real hard not to have the U.S. become dominant over the other countries depending on the leadership at any given time in the three countries.

Knowing this of course makes it more than obvious to all that this whole immigration issue in Congress and Bush calling out the National Guard to patrol the borders is nothing more than an attempt at appeasing the conservatives who are breaking ranks with him over his broken promise regarding immigration and securing the borders. I think it should also be obvious to all Republicans that this is just another Bush smoke and mirrors distraction. Something he is very good at doing in all respects.

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lotusheartone
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posted May 22, 2006 12:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Canada..will not allow this..so it was never part of the plan..and they have always wanted to stay separate..especially Quebec..I'm sure the President has always been aware of that fact. ...

Love and Respect for ALL..

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Mirandee
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posted May 23, 2006 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have to agree, Lotus.

My best friend lives in Edmonton Alberta. Two years ago my husband and I took a road trip to visit with her and husband. We wanted to see areas of Canada we had not seen before.

People that we talked to in motels, restaurants, laundry mats and those we met in Edmonton all disliked Bush. I think the Canadian people would be very much opposed to and mistrustful of any joint union with the U.S. at this point.

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lotusheartone
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posted May 23, 2006 12:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well..their attitude about the U.S. has been like this for a very, very, very long time..

I've always pointed out to my famliy..since I lived most of my life in NH..and just came back from Canada..all the things that are better in the U.S., like healthcare..for instance..education..the list goes on and on..I've lived in both places..

I chose to come back to the U.S. for many good reasons. ...

Love and Respect for ALL..

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salome
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posted May 23, 2006 03:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as per usual, lies, lies and more lies...

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Petron
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posted May 23, 2006 05:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America: Progress

Canada, Mexico and the United States share a continued commitment to enhance the security, prosperity and quality of life of our citizens within North America. We recognize that the success of our countries is enhanced by working cooperatively. The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which celebrates its first anniversary this month, provides a framework for us to advance collaboration in areas as diverse as security, transportation, the environment and public health.

We are convinced that regulatory cooperation advances the productivity and competitiveness of our nations and helps to protect our health, safety and environment. For instance, cooperation on food safety will help protect the public while at the same time facilitate the flow of goods. We affirm our commitment to strengthen regulatory cooperation in this and other key sectors and to have our central regulatory agencies complete a trilateral regulatory cooperation framework by 2007.

North American Smart, Secure Borders.Our vision is to have a border strategy that results in the fast, efficient and secure movement of low-risk trade and travelers to and within North America, while protecting us from threats including terrorism. In implementing this strategy, we will encourage innovative risk-based approaches to improving security and facilitating trade and travel. These include close coordination on infrastructure investments and vulnerability assessments, screening and processing of travelers, baggage and cargo, a single integrated North American trusted traveler program, and swift law enforcement responses to threats posed by criminals or terrorists, including advancing a trilateral network for the protection of judges and officers.
The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America represents a broad and ambitious agenda. We instruct our Ministers to develop options to strengthen the SPP and present them next June as part of the second report on progress of the SPP.
President Fox and President Bush were pleased to accept, on behalf of their countries, Prime Minister Harper's invitation to host the next trilateral leaders meeting in Canada in 2007.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060331.html

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Mirandee
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posted May 23, 2006 11:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think all around on the surface this sounds like a very good thing to me. I also think it could serve to improve our relations with Mexico and Canada.

To me it just all sounds kind of contradictory to what is going on in this country with the National Guard being called out to patrol the southwestern border and the immigration reform bill. Of course, I'm aware that is all being done for political reasons due to the upcoming election in Nov. Already the Republicans are using it as a campaign issue and accusing the Dems. of being in support of amnesty for illegal aliens and all the other garbage that Karl Rove is famous for pulling in election campaigns. But I don't see how that is helping to acheive this plan for a North American partnership.

It also sounds kind of contradictory in light of all the seeds of fear,suspicion and mistrust of foreigners that have been sown in this country since 9/11.

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lotusheartone
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posted May 23, 2006 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Canada..won't ever agree to it. ...


Love and Respect for ALL...

P.S. people in Canada..do not really like the U.S., like alot of other countries.. due to the wonderful World of Media..

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TINK
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posted May 23, 2006 11:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"central regulatory agencies"

gulp


"people in Canada ... do not really like the US"

That may very well be true. But "the people in Canada" and Canada - in other words the entity that makes the decisions - are two entirely different things. Same thing here in the US .... and Mexico as well.

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Rainbow~
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posted May 23, 2006 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True Tink.....

I would hate to think the stuff dubya and his cronies do, is reflective of the thinking of the U.S. as a whole! (altho I'm sure it does, in certain places...)

The man in power here in my country, absolutely does NOT act in my behalf (and I'm not alone..) sadly....*sigh*

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Petron
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posted June 12, 2006 10:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006

Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn.

Once complete, the new road will allow containers from the Far East to enter the United States through the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, bypassing the Longshoreman’s Union in the process. The Mexican trucks, without the involvement of the Teamsters Union, will drive on what will be the nation’s most modern highway straight into the heart of America. The Mexican trucks will cross border in FAST lanes, checked only electronically by the new “SENTRI” system. The first customs stop will be a Mexican customs office in Kansas City, their new Smart Port complex, a facility being built for Mexico at a cost of $3 million to the U.S. taxpayers in Kansas City.

As incredible as this plan may seem to some readers, the first Trans-Texas Corridor segment of the NAFTA Super Highway is ready to begin construction next year. Various U.S. government agencies, dozens of state agencies, and scores of private NGOs (non-governmental organizations) have been working behind the scenes to create the NAFTA Super Highway, despite the lack of comment on the plan by President Bush. The American public is largely asleep to this key piece of the coming “North American Union” that government planners in the new trilateral region of United States, Canada and Mexico are about to drive into reality.

Just examine the following websites to get a feel for the magnitude of NAFTA Super Highway planning that has been going on without any new congressional legislation directly authorizing the construction of the planned international corridor through the center of the country.


* NASCO, the North America SuperCorridor Coalition Inc., is a “non-profit organization dedicated to developing the world’s first international, integrated and secure, multi-modal transportation system along the International Mid-Continent Trade and Transportation Corridor to improve both the trade competitiveness and quality of life in North America.” Where does that sentence say anything about the USA? Still, NASCO has received $2.5 million in earmarks from the U.S. Department of Transportation to plan the NAFTA Super Highway as a 10-lane limited-access road (five lanes in each direction) plus passenger and freight rail lines running alongside pipelines laid for oil and natural gas. One glance at the map of the NAFTA Super Highway on the front page of the NASCO website will make clear that the design is to connect Mexico, Canada, and the U.S. into one transportation system.

* Kansas City SmartPort Inc. is an “investor based organization supported by the public and private sector” to create the key hub on the NAFTA Super Highway. At the Kansas City SmartPort, the containers from the Far East can be transferred to trucks going east and west, dramatically reducing the ground transportation time dropping the containers off in Los Angeles or Long Beach involves for most of the country. A brochure on the SmartPort website describes the plan in glowing terms: “For those who live in Kansas City, the idea of receiving containers nonstop from the Far East by way of Mexico may sound unlikely, but later this month that seemingly far-fetched notion will become a reality.”

* The U.S. government has housed within the Department of Commerce (DOC) an “SPP office” that is dedicated to organizing the many working groups laboring within the executive branches of the U.S., Mexico and Canada to create the regulatory reality for the Security and Prosperity Partnership. The SPP agreement was signed by Bush, President Vicente Fox, and then-Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Tex., on March 23, 2005. According to the DOC website, a U.S.-Mexico Joint Working Committee on Transportation Planning has finalized a plan such that “(m)ethods for detecting bottlenecks on the U.S.-Mexico border will be developed and low cost/high impact projects identified in bottleneck studies will be constructed or implemented.” The report notes that new SENTRI travel lanes on the Mexican border will be constructed this year. The border at Laredo should be reduced to an electronic speed bump for the Mexican trucks containing goods from the Far East to enter the U.S. on their way to the Kansas City SmartPort.

* The Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) is overseeing the Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC) as the first leg of the NAFTA Super Highway. A 4,000-page environmental impact statement has already been completed and public hearings are scheduled for five weeks, beginning next month, in July 2006. The billions involved will be provided by a foreign company, Cintra Concessions de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A. of Spain. As a consequence, the TTC will be privately operated, leased to the Cintra consortium to be operated as a toll-road.

The details of the NAFTA Super Highway are hidden in plan view. Still, Bush has not given speeches to bring the NAFTA Super Highway plans to the full attention of the American public. Missing in the move toward creating a North American Union is the robust public debate that preceded the decision to form the European Union. All this may be for calculated political reasons on the part of the Bush Administration.

A good reason Bush does not want to secure the border with Mexico may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap Far East goods into the heart of the U.S., all without the involvement of any U.S. union workers on the docks or in the trucks
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497


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TINK
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posted June 12, 2006 10:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. I'm humbled.

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posted June 12, 2006 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron, are you saying there is no specific legislation authorizing this highway or the merger of commercial interests?

No specific language in NAFTA either?

I think Bush, Republicans, Democrats et.al., are going to be fought tooth and nail over this...if it's true....even if there is already Congressional authorizing legislation or authorization buried within NAFTA.

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lioneye68
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posted June 13, 2006 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I like Americans.

I just don't like the ones that scoff at Canada - you know, the red-neck arrogantly patriotic ones...that boo our national anthem at hockey games, etc. But, people like that are probably just generally rude, so I don't take it personally.

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TINK
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posted June 13, 2006 10:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't fret, lioneye. We all like Canada. honestly, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything derogatory about Canada. Well, occasionally I'll hear someone make fun of the "eh" thing, but even that's usually said with a certain degree of affection.

Acting like animals at sports events is just the American way. Nothing personal against O Canada. It's the team we don't like, not necessarily the country.

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lioneye68
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posted June 14, 2006 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we live the very same life-styles afterall, and have pretty much the same culture sooo... what's not to like?? (all politics aside, which neither you nor I can really do much about, besides b!tch & vote lol...)

The only difference between our two societies is the the U.S. is alot more country-proud than Canada is, and many of you folks have the American flag on your front lawns, or attached to your house, or hanging in windows..etc. - You don't see too much of that in Canada, except maybe on Canada day. Canadians are pretty modest folks that way. At least from an international perspective.

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Rainbow~
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posted June 18, 2006 08:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More food for thought......

"Highway to Hell....."

.....more info at link below...

http://www.rense.com/general72/highway.htm

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"Highway to Hell - a Military Corridor for Martial Law....."

....read more below...

http://www.rense.com/general72/hhig.htm

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posted April 27, 2009 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The illegal Immigrants thread reminded me of this...

Wonder where Petron and Lioneye have been

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posted April 27, 2009 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I'd like to know where Petron and Lioneye are too.

So, what do you think this is going portend regarding illegal border crossings into the US?

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posted November 18, 2009 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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