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jwhop
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posted June 04, 2006 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really democrats, we already know what you mean when you say every vote should count. You mean votes of unregistered voters, unreconstituted felons, the dead, voters voting multiple times under different names in different precincts and you mean illegal aliens.

I'm just a little surprised one of you democrats said it out loud in public. I'm not surprised at who she said it to...which happened to be a non English speaking Latino.

This democrat then compounded the attempt at voter fraud by suggesting those hearing her words could work on her campaign. So now, according to this democrat, illegals can not only vote for her but work in her election campaign. We know this is true because she was speaking to a group who are most likely to be illegal immigrants..."have no papers".

Of course, this democrat now says she misspoke but the truth is that whatever is in your mind will slip out and we've known about massive democrat election fraud efforts since 1960.

Busby on defense, says she misspoke
By Dani Dodge
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 3, 2006

If an election can turn on a sentence, this could be the one: “You don't need papers for voting.”

On Thursday night, Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate for the 50th Congressional District, was speaking before a largely Latino crowd in Escondido when she uttered those words. She said yesterday she simply misspoke.

But someone taped it and a recording began circulating yesterday. After she made that statement at the meeting, Busby immediately said: “You don't need to be a registered voter to help (the campaign).”
She said that subsequent statement was to clarify what she meant.

The recording, which was played yesterday on Roger Hedgecock's radio talk show, jolted the campaign.

Busby, a Cardiff school board member, is in a tight race with Republican Brian Bilbray, a congressman-turned-lobbyist, who has based his campaign on a tough anti-illegal-immigration stance. Busby has focused her campaign on ethics reform. The two are vying to replace Randy “Duke” Cunningham, who was jailed after pleading guilty to taking bribes.

Busby said she was invited to the forum at the Jocelyn Senior Center in Escondido by the leader of a local soccer league. Many of the 50 or so people there were Spanish speakers. Toward the end, a man in the audience asked in Spanish: “I want to help, but I don't have papers.”

It was translated and Busby replied: “Everybody can help, yeah, absolutely, you can all help. You don't need papers for voting, you don't need to be a registered voter to help.”

Bilbray said at worst, Busby was encouraging someone to vote illegally. At best, she was encouraging someone who is illegally in the country to work on her campaign.

“She's soliciting illegal aliens to campaign for her and it's on tape – this isn't exactly what you call the pinnacle of ethical campaign strategy,” Bilbray said. “I don't know how she shows her face.”

The two later met in a debate in Carlsbad last night.

Earlier, San Diego Minutemen volunteer Anthony Porrello said he got the tape from an an anonymous Minuteman and passed it on to the news media and talk radio. News of the gathering had circulated among local Minutemen before the meeting, according to William Griffith, the independent candidate in the race who has been endorsed by the San Diego Minutemen.

He attended, but did not hear the statement. He said he was in the back of the room.

“I heard what I expected to hear from a Democrat who supports amnesty,” he said. Busby says she doesn't support amnesty, but backs the comprehensive plan pushed by U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that includes opening a path to citizenship for people in the United States illegally if they pay penalties and abide by certain conditions.

Busby said that Republicans are now twisting her words. She does not in any way support or advocate that illegal immigrants vote, she said.

“I was clarifying the question that was being asked in Spanish and then stated that you do not have to be a registered voter to help the campaign because there were many people who appeared to be to be under 18 in the group who wanted to volunteer,” she said in a statement. “I'm not surprised that the Republican Party is making this last-minute, desperate ploy and it is absolutely false.”
**Right!
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/50thdistrict/20060603-9999-1mi3busby.html

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Petron
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posted June 04, 2006 11:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

omg!!! i cant believe she says she's "going to pay illegals to travel to the u.s. just to vote illegally"!!

***********


By-election defeat could signal disaster for Bush
By Tim Reid
The Republicans are alarmed after polls show that voters may turn against them in one of their strongholds
A US by-election tomorrow to replace a jailed Congressman in a traditionally safe Republican seat is too close to call, an alarming sign for President Bush and his party ahead of November’s mid-term elections.

Republicans fear that a Democrat victory in the unexpectedly close contest to replace Randy “Duke” Cunningham, the disgraced Congressman who pleaded guilty last year to accepting $2.4 million (£1.3 million) in bribes, could signal a national trend against them and the loss of Republican control on Capitol Hill in November.

Despite Cunningham’s spectacular downfall, his House of Representatives seat — California’s 50th district — has for years been so solidly Republican that even the most bullish Democrats initially believed that they had no chance of capturing it when he resigned in November. But last night, in a race being closely watched by both parties, Francine Busby, the Democrat candidate who lost to Cunningham’ s landslide in 2004, was in a statistical tie with her Republican opponent, Brian Bilbray, a former congressman turned lobbyist.

Republicans have become so alarmed over the possibility of losing the seat that last week Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, flew across the country to campaign for Mr Busby. “Right now the eyes of the nation are on the 50th district of California,” Mr Cheney declared.

The national Republican party has spent $4 million on the race, an enormous sum considering the district’s demographics. In 2004 Cunningham won 58 per cent of the vote to Ms Busby’s 36 per cent, while Mr Bush won 55 per cent in the presidential contest.

“A Busby win would be a huge triumph for Democrats, and probably presage a Democratic takeover of the House in November,” said David Frum, a former White House speechwriter for Mr Bush.

Ms Busby has run her campaign on national themes of Republican sleaze, a thirst for change among voters, and in the light of the Jack Abramoff scandal, refers to her opponent as “lobbyist Bilbray”.

The centrepiece of Mr Bilbray’s campaign has been a hardline stance on immigration. The district, in San Diego’s most affluent neighbourhoods, is just 20 miles north of the Mexican border.

Mr Bilbray contends that the race does not have national implications. He points out that Mr Cunningham’s fall from grace, at a time when Mr Bush’s approval ratings are at record lows and the Iraq war grinds on, changed the dynamics of the contest.

But privately Republicans say that the result could signal how disaffected voters are with Mr Bush and Republicans generally, and also how the issues of sleaze and immigration will affect voting trends.

In California tomorrow and nationally in November, Republicans must turn out their conservative base.

To that end, Mr Bush will today make a speech calling for a Constitutional ban on gay marriage, a proposal that has no legislative chance of success but is aimed at rousing disaffected conservatives.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Governor of California, will discover tomorrow who his Democrat opponent will be when he seeks re-election in November after a Democrat primary contest between Steve Westly, State Controller, and Phil Angelides, State Treasurer.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2211268,00.html

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jwhop
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posted June 04, 2006 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another brain dead moron reporter speculating...aren't they always but it take more than lying, speculating, rumor mongering, fabricating, anonymous sources and innuendo to make a good reporter.

Once in a while they have to have some actual facts and get them right. Something not seen in the MSM for the last 14 years.

The dem said what she said.

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Mirandee
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posted June 05, 2006 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get real, Jwhop.

Even if it is true, the Republicans have done much worse in the past two elections.

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Rainbow~
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posted June 05, 2006 12:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jw said....

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Once in a while they have to have some actual facts and get them right.

Something not seen in the MSM for the last 14 years.


I take it you mean MAIN STREAM MEDIA by MSM....and you must surely be including FOX in that statement, as they are part of the MSM....

How true! How true, jwhop!

We are in agreement once again...

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Mirandee
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posted June 05, 2006 11:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, Jwhop, the Dem said what your conservative reporters are lying about her saying because Francine Busby is leading in Calif. and it is an important race. She is also getting a lot of grassroots donations from American citizens supporting her campaign so she can match the Republican corporate donations.

It is so asinine for you to say any disagreeing article that doesn't match the version of your articles is lying, Jwhop.

The only ones lying here are the mentally impaired Republicans.

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jwhop
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posted June 05, 2006 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That illegal immigrant supporting democrat candidate said what she said and it's on tape.

It can't be spun to mean anything other than what she said.

You don't need papers for voting...illegals don't have papers, don't have voter registration cards, don't have valid drivers licenses and don't have the documentation to vote...legally.

You can still work on my campaign....right, I'm after the illegal votes anyway I can get them and you can help. When I show up in Washington as your representative, I'll vote to throw open the US borders and make you all citizens. Which is what democrats are all about and have been for the last 30 years. Deconstructing the United States by destroying the sovereignty of the Nation...including the US borders.

If the Republican House drops the ball on securing the borders and capitulates on another amnesty for illegal aliens, they're finished as a political force in conservative politics.

I know you and other Toyko Rose leftists would love to see that Mirandee but I wouldn't hold your breath until it comes about...if I were you.

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Petron
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posted June 05, 2006 09:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
she wasnt asked if one can vote without papers.....

her reply was clear.....you dont need to show papers to be a volunteer.....

is that true or false??

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jwhop
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posted June 05, 2006 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That loony democrat said..."you don't need "papers" for voting.

Any reasonable person would interpret that as urging illegal aliens to vote...which they have and for democrats.

"We want every vote to count". That sound familiar to you?

What democrats are angling for is a no identification necessary to vote rule and every vote to count...registered, unregistered, legal or illegal.

That's the reason democrats challenge any rule requiring identification, (papers) to vote.

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