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Venusian Love
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posted June 14, 2006 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Detainees in Despair
By MOURAD BENCHELLALI
Published: June 14, 2006
Lyon, France

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I WAS released from the United States military's prison camp at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, in July 2004. As I was about to board a plane that would take me home to France, the last detainee I saw was a young Yemeni. He was overwhelmed by emotion.

"In your country, Mourad, there are rights, human rights, and they mean something," he said. "In mine they mean nothing, and no one cares. So when you're free, don't forget what you've been through. Tell people that we are here."

I now know that this Yemeni was not among the three prisoners who committed suicide at Guantánamo last weekend, but since then his words have been echoing in my head. Although I'm now a free man, the shared pain endlessly takes me back to the camp.

In the early summer of 2001, when I was 19, I made the mistake of listening to my older brother and going to Afghanistan on what I thought was a dream vacation. His friends, he said, were going to look after me. They did — channeling me to what turned out to be a Qaeda training camp. For two months, I was there, trapped in the middle of the desert by fear and my own stupidity.

As soon as my time was up, I headed home. I was a few miles from the Pakistani border when I learned with horror about the attacks of 9/11. Days later, the border was sealed off, and the only way through to Pakistan and a plane to Europe was across the mountains of the Hindu Kush. I was with a group of people who were all going the same way. No one was armed; most of them, like me, had been lured to Afghanistan by a misguided and mistimed sense of adventure, and were simply trying to make their way home.

I was seized by the Pakistani Army while having tea at a mosque shortly after I managed to cross the border. A few days later I was delivered to the United States Army: although I didn't know it at the time, I was now labeled an "enemy combatant." It did not matter that I was no one's enemy and had never been on a battlefield, let alone fought or aimed a weapon at anyone.

After two weeks in the American military base in Kandahar, Afghanistan, I was sent to Guantánamo, where I spent two and a half years. I cannot describe in just a few lines the suffering and the torture; but the worst aspect of being at the camp was the despair, the feeling that whatever you say, it will never make a difference.

You repeat yourself over and over again to interrogators from the military intelligence, the F.B.I., the C.I.A. The first time you hear "Your case is being processed," your heart, seizing on the hopeful possibilities in those words, skips a beat. After months of disappointment, you try to develop an immunity to hope, but hope is an incurable disease.

I remember once an interrogator warming me up during several sessions for a polygraph test I was going to take, that was, according to him, infallible. After I took the test, I was left alone in the interrogation room; an hour later, the interrogator returned. "Congratulations," he said grimly. "You have passed the test." And he gave me a box of candy.

In the outside world, I thought, the difference between telling the truth and lying, between committing a crime and not committing it, is the difference between being in jail and being free. In Guantánamo, it is a box of candy.

I was eventually released and I will go on trial next month in Paris to face charges that I've never denied, that I spent two months in the Qaeda camp. I have a court date, I'm facing a judge, and I have a lawyer, unimaginable luxuries in Guantánamo. I didn't know the three detainees who died, but it is easy for me to see how this daily despair and uncertainty could lead to suicide.

During my captivity, I saw many acts of individual rebellion, from screaming to hunger strikes and suicide attempts. "They are smart, they are creative, they are committed," said Rear Adm. Harry Harris, who commands the camp. "They have no regard for life, neither ours nor their own. I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of asymmetrical warfare waged against us."

I am a quiet Muslim — I've never waged war, let alone an asymmetrical one. I wasn't anti-American before and, miraculously, I haven't become anti-American since. In Guantánamo, I did see some people for whom jihad is life itself, people whose minds are distorted by extremism and whose souls are full of hatred. But the huge majority of the faces I remember — the ones that haunt my nights — are of desperation, suffering, incomprehension turned into silent madness.

I believe that a small number of the detainees at Guantánamo are guilty of criminal acts, but as analysis of the military's documents on the prisoners has shown, there is no evidence that most of the 465 or so men there have committed hostile acts against the United States or its allies. Even so, what I heard so many times resounding from cage to cage, what I said myself so many times in my moments of complete despondency, was not, "Free us, we are innocent!" but "Judge us for whatever we've done!" There is unlimited cruelty in a system that seems to be unable to free the innocent and unable to punish the guilty.

Mourad Benchellali has written a book about his experience in a Qaeda camp andat Guantánamo Bay, with Antoine Audouard, who assisted in the writing of this article and translated it from the French.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/14/opinion/14benchellali.html?th&emc=th


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Rainbow~
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posted June 15, 2006 10:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for sharing this, VL.....

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DayDreamer
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posted June 15, 2006 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This makes me mad.

No @#^%!$* comment.

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jwhop
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posted June 15, 2006 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does it make you mad? You don't know if a single word of this is even true.

The fact it came from the NY Times is not in it's favor.

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DayDreamer
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posted June 15, 2006 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does it make me mad? This letter must be made up...innocent men are not being abused in this criminal prison.

Why are these men who have never been tried, and many who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, all guilty of being terrorists?

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posted June 16, 2006 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Innocent men, in fact no men are being abused at Gitmo.

That's his story...that he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time...traveling with members of a terrorist group when they were captured in Pakistan.

I know, they're all innocent...because it's right to fight against and resist the invader...who has invaded because your government was sheltering terrorists who killed more than 3000 Americans in a sneak attack and the government refused to turn them over.

Makes sense to me

When people are caught in an area of war, when they are not wearing the military uniform of the country...either country, when they are not in the country of their residence, when it appears they are part of an illegal combatant group, they have no right to be treated as prisoners of war. In times past, they would be executed as spies.

They have no right to be tried in the civilian courts of the United States and they were never brought into the jurisdiction of United States courts because they were never brought within the borders of the United States. They will not and should not be granted the same rights under the US Constitution as American citizens.

Manuals captured in raids of terrorist hideouts and safe houses instruct terrorists who are captured to lie about being abused/tortured/beaten/starved blah, blah, blah...in fact, they are instructed to lie about everything possible.

Of course, lying is against the Muslim religion...unless one is lying to the infidels.

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posted June 16, 2006 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know, they're all innocent...because it's right to fight against and resist the invader...who has invaded because your government was sheltering terrorists who killed more than 3000 Americans in a sneak attack and the government refused to turn them over.

Where is the proof that the men captured in Gtmo were behind the 9/11 attacks?

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When people are caught in an area of war, when they are not wearing the military uniform of the country...either country, when they are not in the country of their residence, when it appears they are part of an illegal combatant group, they have no right to be treated as prisoners of war. In times past, they would be executed as spies.

Well, in all times past, when was it favourable for anyone to invade someone else's country to start a war...and call the people of that country terrorists because they are fighting the invaders?...(unless one was unlawful.)

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They have no right to be tried in the civilian courts of the United States and they were never brought into the jurisdiction of United States courts because they were never brought within the borders of the United States. They will not and should not be granted the same rights under the US Constitution as American citizens.

They're not Americans. The constitution only applies to Americans. If you're not American, then you're not human, so humanly laws need not apply...only the most unconstitutional.

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Manuals captured in raids of terrorist hideouts and safe houses instruct terrorists who are captured to lie about being abused/tortured/beaten/starved blah, blah, blah...in fact, they are instructed to lie about everything possible.

How do we know these manuals were created by terrorists? Finding some random manuals automatically makes all those who are detained liars?

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Of course, lying is against the Muslim religion...unless one is lying to the infidels.

Lying isnt as bad as locking up and abusing an innocent man.

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jwhop
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posted June 16, 2006 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All this sounds eerily familiar. Sounds like it could have come straight off the propaganda talking points of the poor innocent terrorists themselves.

Get used to it and get over it. The war against those innocent terrorist sociopaths is going to continue.

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DayDreamer
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posted June 16, 2006 12:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah looks like this war is going to continue for a while. Problem I see with this strategy is that you cant bomb and kill all the terrorists.

I hope I dont ever get used to it. But I do think Im used to hearing the same things over and over again....boring...zzzzzzzzz

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geminstone
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posted June 16, 2006 02:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe they have been learning from the Best... and, taking notes too. Sounds like a typical day of the news across the states... but, funny, how so many just stay right where the view never changes. It's very frustrating, I agree,... the Shepherder's job,... it's so much tougher these days... damn black sheep

Venusian Love,
Thank You...
DayDreamer,...

~ geminstone

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writesomething
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posted June 16, 2006 03:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this was heart wrenching....
thanks for sharing this link.

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

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Venusian Love
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posted June 16, 2006 09:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop is mad because his town newspaper didn't publish this.


I know it hurts you to find out that georgey porgy isn't coming to your rescue.

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