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Topic: we always forget the casualities
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writesomething unregistered
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posted June 23, 2006 08:18 AM
great link:http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ ------------------ "WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit" "Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation" -Khalil Gibran IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ unregistered
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posted June 23, 2006 11:21 AM
writesomething....I NEVER forget... My heart hurts everyday at the carnage...and the man above has all those deaths on his hands....HE'S THE ONE RESPONSIBLE... He and that horrible Cheney, Rumsfeld and all the rest... BLOOD THIRSTY WAR MONGERS!!!!!! IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2006 02:42 PM
No writes-something.. most of us DO NOT forget those that have died fighting the good fight. Most of us humans realize the pain and suffering of war and some more that others are connected to the Military which causes more grief. Some mentally and ethically challenged human being can't wait to use every death, every injury and all the lies told by the Mid East media to perpetuate their own evil hateful agenda against Bush, Cheney and others. Those people would rather not have our men / women there to rebuild Iraq, to unthrown a dictator, but would rather hear of millions more Iranians and Kurds being murdered by Saddam. Those people love to see our Soldiers die but pretend they care- yet.... they never say anything positive about the military, they can't allow any positive news to go noticed from our Soldier's effort to rebuild a broken down country and they sure as hell can't even say Happy Birthday to the Army because that goes against their communist, Anti-American ways. Instead... each death becomes another notch in their leftest political belt, each coffin another reason to celebrate and every picture of dead Soldier another opportunity to post a picture of Bush carrying a coffin. No.. there aren't many that forget the casualities... it is all in how you remember them and their cause. IP: Logged |
sue g unregistered
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posted June 23, 2006 02:48 PM
"fighting the good fight"What if that dead man was yer son or husband..... No fight is a good fight.... Is it? IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2006 02:55 PM
It very well could be Sue. Bear is a SGT First Class in the US Army. He's also airborne and a UAV pilot. He can be deployed at any time.My father is retired law enforcement. He could have died at any time at work - does that mean he shouldn't have been law enforcement? Several of our friends (my ex- also in the Military) and Bears have been killed in conflicts. Some of been killed because of friendly fire here in the states and equipment malfunctions. I am closer than you think to all this... IP: Logged |
Eleanore Moderator Posts: 112 From: Okinawa, Japan Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2006 03:01 PM
Um ... WWII was definately a good fight ... against Hitler and the Nazis. But then I simply find the slaughter of innocent people by their own unfortunately demonic dictator absolutely intolerable for any reason. Just my onion, you know.------------------ "To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall IP: Logged |
sue g unregistered
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posted June 23, 2006 03:03 PM
Sorry to hear that PidHow very worrying.... IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2006 03:30 PM
Thank you Sue, I do appreciate it. I think we all learn to accept certain things even if they have the potential to break our hearts. My father became a police officer and then a Special Agent (undercover narcotics) and didn't retire until 2 years ago. When I was little a lady asked my mother "How can you let him do that? You know he could die" My mother very calmly said "He had just left Vietnam when we met, I knew he was going to become a cop. If should depart this world unexpectedly, I know he'll be with God". Through the years my father has lost many co-workers through the job- although he never lost anyone on his team. I think about Firefighter's and how they are in such dangerous positions and yet they give 100% without looking back. What really irks me about this war is when the idiot terrorists get one over on our Soldiers. Why should the good people die at the hands of dirtbags? For every loss I think of these cockroaches hiding back underground and I ask 'Why should one of our Soldiers die fighting these morons?
Simple really.... these morons will stop at nothing to kill not only THEIR innocent brothers and sisters, but those that they consider to be infidels / devils etc... In the same respect, I am just as saddened when a police officer is brutally mudered by a drug dealer or gang banger. How can some one so pathetic take the life of someone that is serving the people / country? I can't sit by, and neither can most Americans, and watch a dictator kill, torture and maim his country's people and their children. People here like to call Bush a baby killer- insinuating the is killing innocent infants by going to war. Instead, PEOPLE HAVE VOLUNTEERED for the Armed Services- there is always a chance of conflict- those that joined for the benfits only have their heads on backwards (and trust me I have met too many of those types "Oh we LOVE how the Military takes care of our insurance, housing, education, child care and trains my honey to work - but OMG if there is a war.. we did not sign up for this!!!). ...sad but true IP: Logged |
sue g unregistered
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posted June 23, 2006 03:53 PM
Politics aside Pid....Very sad....lives being lost... Me being a mother....well it throws a different light on things altogether girl.... One is never the same again....and the though of losing my baby.... IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2006 03:55 PM
Yes, I understand that has to be hard for a mother - or for anyone that cares deeply about family- but especially true for a mom IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ unregistered
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posted June 25, 2006 03:15 AM
Yes...CINDY SHEEHAN can tell you that.... IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 25, 2006 03:40 AM
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sue g unregistered
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posted June 25, 2006 06:37 AM
Pid.....I have seen a HUGE change in women after they become mothers....it softens and brings about a vulnerability as well as amazing strength too. Life becomes even more special and precious.... I know for some, they are NEVER the same again...for me it just exaggerated the love energy and I am a lot stronger now that I ever was.... I feel houred and blessed....... Maybe you will one day too...... IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 25, 2006 09:01 AM
I have a very simple solution to the entire Cindy Sheehan affair.Let her meet with the President. That's right. I've finally changed my tune. Let her meet with the President who thwarted the United Nations Security Council and made the case for war. Let her meet with the President who hindered the progress of United Nations weapons inspectors. Let her meet with the President who lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction that they'd use on Americans. Let her meet with the President who killed thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. Let her meet with the President who came to office in a rigged election, and maintained his grip on power through rigged voting and militaristic patriotism. Let her meet with the President who turned his country's media into a mouthpiece for his fascist and discriminatory policies. Let her meet with the President who transformed his country into a single-party dictatorship, sowing fear and resentment against any who dared to oppose his iron-fisted rule. Let her meet with the President who proved himself a coward by fleeing when his country was attacked. Let her meet with the President who should be brought up on war crimes charges for his dastardly misdeeds. Let her meet with the President who spent billions of dollars on weapons while social welfare programs went unfunded and the poor continue to suffer for it to this day. Let her meet with the President who has a track record of invading Arab Muslim countries for oil. Let her meet with the President who knew full well about the bloodthirsty torture and murderous horrors at Abu Ghraib. That's right. Let her meet with Saddam Hussein. http://isfullofcrap.com/oldcrap/2005/08/let_cindy_sheeh.html That's right, and let Cindy Sheehan take her sponsor, CODEPINK leader Medea Benjamin with her and put them both in the same cell with Saddam Hussein. 3 communists who share a common enemy, the United States of America. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted June 25, 2006 09:06 AM
Jwhop..thanks for telling it..like it is. ...IP: Logged |
Rainbow~ unregistered
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posted June 25, 2006 01:46 PM
Yes.....jwhop.....Thank you for telling it like it is.... YOU FINALLY GOT WISE TO BUSH AND HIS GANG, HUH? As for Cindy Sheehan...... Well..... quote: Yes, I understand that has to be hard for a mother - or for anyone that cares deeply about family- but especially true for a mom.
Pid got it right too.... Wow you guys surprise me..... ........all except for your suggestion to put our greiving war mom in the cell with Saddam...I can't understand where your cruelty came from...It's my understanding that you are a patriot......that's no way for a patriot to treat a grieving mother... IP: Logged |
Planet_Soul unregistered
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posted June 25, 2006 03:55 PM
I symphatize w CS losing her son I have a young son, and don't even want to imagine losing him at a young age ): Sadly, many mothers do have their children pass before they do My cousin was killed by a drunk in April. He would've turned 18 this Thursday I have no idea how his parents master the strength to keep smiling at life.If my son decided to join the Armed Forces, I would totally support his decision. If the unthinkable happened, I would be devasted but not angry. As Pidaua mentioned, the military is a voluntary path. One knows the risks involved, and makes a commitment. My fiance is going into the Air Force, like his father before him. It is scary to think of losing him, but I am mighty proud of him. IP: Logged |
sue g unregistered
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posted June 25, 2006 04:33 PM
I am so glad my husband is a graphic designer and we are living in a rural part of Ireland....so safe and gentle Yes.... that was a very cruel thing to say about that mother.....horrible in fact..... Thank God for loving and kind hearts.... IP: Logged |