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posted July 14, 2006 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever thought that MAYBE in a country like Iraq where its most likely, they cant read the damn SIGNS? illiterate is likely... yeah think about that one before you think it somehow justifies their deaths coz theyre too "dumb" to read the signs at the checkpoints, and another thing... why the hell are they there(the checkpoints)? protect innocent? hows that? when they are killing the innocent....

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posted July 14, 2006 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um...to prevent terrorists from driving into populated areas with car bombs maybe??? This is something that happens almost on a daily basis there.

And even if they are illiterate, they're certainly not blind. You can see a road block from a mile back.

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posted July 14, 2006 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and,

you are oversimplyfing things and allowing emotions to cloud reason. Checkpoints prevent people with bombs from entering into an area and killing.... oh let's say a bus with 100 people. If the car with the bomb gets stopped and TWO people die.. well, 100 lives of innocents saved is worth 2 terrorists dead.

Let's look at all the innocent people killed since 9-11 (and we'll count American's as well) and divide them up by those that have been killed by coalition forces and those killed by terrorists.

I am betting we're going to see for every one innocent killed by Coalition forces at least 15 were killed by terrorists.

The media and websites like "bodycount.org" report a skewed number.

Instead of saying 100 innocent civilians died as a result of a car bomb in Bagdad, they list the numbers as those suffered because the US was there and that is why the bombers did what they did.

Are they for real? These Muslim extremists have been doing this kind of crap (killing their own) for YEARS!!!!

The fact that impressionable people believe it really is sickening.

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posted July 14, 2006 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS... If illegal immigrants coming over the border can read the cattle crossing and border patrol signs (which are almost ALL in pictures) I think people in Iraq can manage.

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Venusian Love
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posted July 14, 2006 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Um...to prevent terrorists from driving into populated areas with car bombs maybe???


Obviously hasn't worked because many soldiers die from that on a daily basis.


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PS... If illegal immigrants coming over the border can read the cattle crossing and border patrol signs (which are almost ALL in pictures) I think people in Iraq can manage.


I don't know. I'm not sure I'd be able to manage missles and weapons in my country 24 hours and 7 days a week....not knowing whether I am going to be alive the next hour.

Could you? Actually....don't answer that.


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Are they for real? These Muslim extremists have been doing this kind of crap (killing their own) for YEARS!!!!


Wow. I guess since the EXTREMISTS do it then that gives US the right to also! Now I see how it works!

It's bloody murder on both sides.


Wake up ogar....oops I meant princess

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lioneye68
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posted July 14, 2006 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're such a loser. Your arguements don't have a shred of common sense in them.

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posted July 14, 2006 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO.... I know lioneye, I think she is just happy she can post a quote. That is quite a feat for one that wears a helmet / drool cup.

VL..... you are funny.... my 1 year old nephew makes more sense that you do and he still craps himself

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Bear the Leo
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posted July 17, 2006 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bear the Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and, VL,

You both may want to turn on the TV or even look at a paper every once in a while. Wait the only papers you folks read are only the ones about Soldiers dying and how they kill innocent people around the world. The signs you are asking about have "stop" in there own language and picture signs for "stop". "Even a child" in the states knows how to read a stop sign or at least knows what one looks like from the shape and color. Its the same over there. They are not a dumb. They are inventive though. Just so I can educate you real quick its not really the car bombs though they are becoming more evident with the new guy in charge since thats his specialty. For your education, car bombs aren't the problem at those check points, but they are becoming more evident since the new person in charge of the insurgents specializes in that form of warfare. Most of the sSoldiers are being killed by IEDs (Improvised Explosive Devices) launched or emplaced by insurgents. The checkpoints are set up with what we call dragons teeth, because they are staggered so one can weave through them thereby giving them more time to understand a checkpoint is ahead. Then the vehicle is searched to ensure no harm or minimal damage occurs.

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Venusian Love
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posted July 17, 2006 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look you beast. Oops I mean bear.


I read papers that tell it like it is.


From both sides. Not just one.


They show what actually goes on.


They don't hide it.


I'll remind you that people in this country have complained before due to the media not telling all.


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Venusian Love
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posted July 17, 2006 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet your local news doesn't show things like this does it? I bet they say everything is dandy and Bush is a hero huh?


Israeli strikes kill more Lebanese


Monday 17 July 2006, 21:44 Makka Time, 18:44 GMT


A wounded Lebanese boy in Saida in southern Lebanon

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Israeli aircraft have bombed Hezbollah positions in Lebanon for a sixth successive day but the attacks have not stopped the Shia fighters from firing over 50 rockets at Israeli towns and cities.


In Lebanon anger was also rising as the Israeli attacks killed at least 40 more civilians, taking the toll to over 200 by Monday evening.

The deadliest attacks came when Israeli aircraft fired missiles at a minibus in the town of Rmeileh, between Beirut and Saida. Twelve civilians were killed.

Reuters news agency reported that the vehicle was taking civilians away from the fighting and towards Beirut when the missile struck.

In Saida, Red Cross rescue workers also discovered on Monday the bodies of nine other civilians who were in a building stuck by bombs on Sunday.

The international community have appealed for calm amid growing calls to deploy a multinational military force to monitor and, if necessary, impose a ceasefire along the border.

Israel has said that it will continue to attack Hezbollah until the group stops firing missiles from Lebanon and releases two Israeli soldiers that it captured last Wednesday.

Israeli air attacks have been concentrated on the border region and areas surrounding the two port cities of Saida and Tyre.

Most strikes have been directed against Hezbollah military strongholds and weapons storage facilities.


Israeli artillery fires at southern Lebanon on 16 July

On Sunday Israel warned all Lebanese civilians to leave their homes in southern Lebanon ahead of the coming offensive.

Many have complied and have travelled north to seek relative safety in the capital Beirut and other major cities.

Israel’s Army Radio quoted Israel's chief of staff as saying that Israel planned to enforce a 1km (0.5 mile) "security zone" inside Lebanon to keep Hizbollah away from the border.

Hezbollah attacks

After killing eight Israeli civilians on Sunday, Hezbollah renewed its rocket attacks on Israeli towns and cities on Monday.

In Haifa, Israel’s third largest town where twenty rockets hit yesterday, five civilians were wounded when rockets badly damaged a residential building.

Short-range Katyusha rockets also wounded six people in the Galilee region of Western Israel. Others landed harmlessly in and around several towns in northern Israel including Acre and Tiberias.

Hezbollah attacks have killed 24 Israelis so far, including 12 civilians killed by rockets.

Negotiations

A United Nations team has also begun trying to broker a ceasefire as the world’s most powerful industrial nations called for an end to the fighting from the Group of Eight summit in St Petersburg.

The French prime minister, Dominic de Villepin called for “an immediate, humanitarian truce”.

Vijay Nambiar, who is leading a UN team to organise a ceasefire said there had been "some promising first efforts on the way forward” but added that “much diplomatic work needs to be done."

Nambiar will hold talks with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni on Tuesday.

Tony Blair, the British prime minister called for an international military force to separate the warring sides.


Israelis in a bomb shelter near the border with Lebanon

"The blunt reality is that this violence is not going to stop unless we create the conditions for the cessation of violence," said Blair, speaking at the G8 summit.

"The only way is if we have a deployment of international forces that can stop bombardment coming into Israel,” he said.

Officials from Iran, the main military and financial backer of Hezbollah, said that a cease-fire and a prisoner swap would be "an acceptable and fair" deal to resolve the conflict.

"In fact, there can be a cease-fire followed by a prisoner swap," said Manouchehr Mottaki, the Iranian foreign minister after talks with Syrian Vice President Farouk al-Sharaa in Damascus.


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pidaua
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posted July 17, 2006 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO... VL- he's in the Army and stationed in Germany (for now) he gets to see many things up close and personal, more so than we will ever see since we are not 1) in the Military 2) overseas 3) getting deployed, been deployed or having others in our company deployed.

As for me- Arizona may still have the pony express and I may be living in quite and old town (granted we don't have shopping cart man or ANY soup kitchen coupons and the air is fresh- so you'd hate it here) but we do get Satellite and this little town has been a big hit for fashion photographers from NYC.

You could do yourself a great service by opening up your mind and if you quit being bigoted towards people based on their locale. We have many East Coast people here that made their fortunes and came to the Old West to breath in fresh air and live the good life.

Then again... I am sure your love for the man with the cart is quite profound...

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lioneye68
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posted July 17, 2006 08:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I bet your local news doesn't show things like this does it? I bet they say everything is dandy and Bush is a hero huh?

Geez, I didn't know Bush commanded the Israeli army too.

Posting that article in an attempt to prove what a jackass Bush is - that just shows how illogically your mind works.

And by the way, what makes you think pictures and stories like these only sadden the Anti-Bush camp? The entire world is saddened by incidents like this, ESPECIALLY when they involve children. But, Bush didn't do that to that boy. I suppose, to you, it's Bush's fault whenever *anything* bad happens. Even when you stub your toe on the coffee table, huh?

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