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pidaua
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posted September 28, 2006 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well now, some people really know how to pick someone to use to voice their opinions.. but picking a complete and total racist's remarks just because HE ALSO hates President Bush? How assinine! This guy also hates the Jewish People, most American's and the medical industry...

You can find some of his best work on
www.cresentandcross.com
http://www.crescentandcross.com/index.php?page=articles&author=joseph_cortina&s ubpage1=without1

One of his articles is titled

"A USA WITHOUT A JEW"

A USA WITHOUT A JEW
“America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great”--Alexis DeTocqueville – famous statesman, historian and social philosopher 1805-1859
After remembering reading some post about ‘A Day Without A Mexican’, (an article made into a movie supporting amnesty of illegal alien Mexicans) I thought I would do a kind of a sequel – and call it – ‘A USA WITHOUT A JEW’.
The original ‘A Day Without A Mexican’ was supposed to show – in a positive light - what wonderful contributions these illegal aliens have made to the heritage of America. Well – as you might have guessed – it backfired – BIGTIME!
It seems that hard working taxpayers here didn’t buy the BS. Apparently the reality ---- of the statistics of violent crime – ruthless street gangs – gang wars – countless murders and rapes WAY out of proportion to the number of Mexicans – degrading of entire communities – burning and looting of major cities! - disruptive conduct in schools – constant welfare drain – lost jobs – the proclivity of these people for violent Marxist ideologies (Atzlan etc etc) and a laundry list of other horrific social problems – not to mention a HUGE economic drain on our already shaky double-digit inflation economy ---.woke up most American citizens.
Well – here is what would actually happen if – you can imagine for a moment – that there were NO SELF- CHOSEN in America – PERIOD! Not now – or EVER! That of course is only wishful thinking - and sadly for America – the reality of situations that we now have - thanks to the lifelong conduct of Jews in America, is that we are morally bankrupt.
AND - I feel compelled to add – that in no small part – the culpability for this monumental moral disaster must be shared with the greedy ignorant and spineless average American gentile as complicit in ‘allowing’ these avoidable disgraceful ‘events’ to change this once wonderful and unique Christian nation of my childhood into the Sodom- like foul morally rotted corpse that we have most certainly become. Make no mistake – God will NOT hold the ‘other 95%’ - whole harmless.
These assumptions are based on history- events - experiences – laws – organizations - lawmakers and a general complexion and condition of the moral, sociological and economic of our nation that would in all probability NOT have happened without Jewish influence.
There of course must be a perspective for comparison. Since there was little Jew influence at high levels when I was a ‘teenager’ – I use many personal experiences from that general time frame as a pre- benchmark period of our relative innocence and goodness as a people and a nation in general. The horrible things that have happened to America since that period, are what would happen if Jews had influenced America – or more accurately stated – what DID happen – SINCE they DID eventually ‘poisoned the well’. I emphasize those horrible consequences that we have lived with for most or all our lives.
For those of you over 60 this will only be a ‘refresher’ course in America’s recent moral history – as most of you will recall life in the US during the 40s and 50s . For younger generations – especially – who read this – you did not live during those wholesome times - so learn these lessons well – for if you fail to heed this message – you will inevitably repeat these mistakes and completely seal the fate of your country – and your children. Teach them well. Teach them THE TRUTH! Teach them NOW - or you will be despised by them long after you are gone – as being the generation that allowed their country to end up on the ash heap of history – like EVERY other nation which has sold it’s ‘soul’ and lost it’s moral compass.
FOR EXAMPLE =====
Grade school and high school violence crime and pregnancies would be as non-existent as they were in the 40s and 50s. Why? Because we would still have school prayer as WELL AS ‘Golden Rule’ ethics taught in school as well as wholesome ‘clean cut’ entertainment and positive role models for our youth instead of the garbage that infected our society like a plague.
No Jews – No large number of teen pregnancies
There would have been NO ‘Columbine’ school massacres and no huge numbers of children forced to be drugged out 24-7 on horrible dangerous class 2 narcotic drugs because there would have been no psychotropic drugs pushed by predominantly Jewish psychologists (fake doctors) to ‘cure’ Jew fabricated non-existent ‘diseases’ (My own son is one of the victims of these horrors and I know ALL TO WELL, EXACTLY what is going on with this insanity) Another ‘gift’ from the Jews.
No Jews – No drugged out children
Instead of the drooling imbeciles that we churn out year after year, in a completely failed education system - America would still lead the way with excellent graduates from our public school systems – as it was some 50 years ago – before the Jews dominate the policies of our educational system through the horrid NEA and other State and local policy makers.
No Jews – no purposeful ‘dumbing down’ of America
We would still have Creationism and other wholesome Godly concepts taught to our children in Schools. There would be NO teen suicides at the alarming increasing rates we see today. Why? Because we would still be teaching that there is value in human life – and that we are more than just ‘hairless apes’ – and that human life has worth beyond material ambitions.
No Jews – no high teen suicides
We would not have the monumental destructive ‘street’ drug problems that have plagued us since the 60s. Countless young people’s lives irrevocably ruined – perhaps an entire generation – drugged out – turned on and dropped out – all because we allowed soulless immoral Jews like the Beetles and other trash of their ilk to become our NEW icons and role models instead of the wholesome entertainers I grew up with as a teen.
No Jews – No drug culture
When I was a child – we could walk blocks away to visit Grandpa or friends without our parents worrying about some dreadful thing happening to us. My parents their cars and seldom locked the house. There was NO reason to. Decency prevailed and crime against a private citizen was rare indeed. In EVERY society on earth – when Christian based morals are cast aside – crime and violence has ALWAYS filled the ‘vacuum’. This is NOT UNREALISTIC FANTASY! I lived in that happy time without the chocking Jew influence in every aspect of life.
No Jews – No spiraling violent crime rates
Christmas was a happy time where virtually EVERYONE celebrated the birth of Christ. There were prayers before every school sports event and it was CHRISTMAS – NOT the Jew preferred ‘holiday season’ of today. NO ONE was EVER forced to participate in ANY Christian custom then, and mockery of our Lord was unspeakable and unthinkable. We were taught of the Founding Fathers and that ours was a blessed Christian Nation based upon CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES.
No Jews – no destruction of Christmas
The cinema was wholesome and safe from the monstrous blasphemies against Christ that the Jews use with a vengeance against their perennial hated enemy. When I was a child - the damning of God was UNTHINKABLE in public entertainment. There was even a Christian watchdog group – called the Legion of Decency who kept the predictable Jew filth – sadistic violence – gratuitous sex and graphic homosexual perversions away from destroying the innocence of our children.
No Jews – no profanity and blasphemy in the cinema
Hollywood free of the filth of Jew mentality would be Christian dominated and the entertainment would STILL be suitable for the whole family. We would still have the mind- boggling special effects that are ‘eye candy’ to action movie buffs – but without the associated filth. Oh - and if you think nobody would go because the shows were too boring – ask ANYBODY with gray hair if they felt that George Raft had to blaspheme God to prove he was a ‘tough guy’ for the movie audience – or Humphrey Bogart – or Spencer Tracy or John Wayne. Or if Loretta Young or Greta Garbow or Maureen O-hara or Jennifer Jones were any less beautiful because they didn’t bear their ass for everyone to ogle at. So – you’re a big boy now and you want to see porn! Fine – Just go to your local XXX store – but keep it out of TV and public movie houses.
No Jews – no lurid graphic sex/porn in public movie houses and TV
Disney World was a wonderful place of wholesome entertainment for children and family alike. It was the dream of a wonderful Christian man who wanted a place for decent salubrious entertainment. The Jews with their power in wealth – seized the opportunity and turned it into a hellhole of nasty filth – more to actually honor homosexual pedophile perverts than for joy to children. Everything the Jew psyche touches with his money – regardless of how decent, innocent and clean – he turns into something vile, nasty, filthy and sordid!
No Jews – no homo pedophiles in Disney World – or ANY public place
Abortion was virtually unheard of when I was a teen. I did not know of ONE SINGLE married couple that had their own child murdered for ‘matters of convenience’ till I was well into adulthood. ONE girl was pregnant out of wedlock in our high school – the ENTIRE TIME! JUST ONE! You do NOT have to be a rocket scientist to know either. EITHER (A) the girl’s tummy got big – or (B) she ‘went on a long vacation – usually out of State. Today – children in grade school are routinely made pregnant! EVERY abortion mill and or abortion advocate group IS PREDOMINANTLY funded and or staffed or supported by JEWS – PERIOD! Infanticide is a Jew thing! No Jews – no Jews lawyers – No Jew layers - no Partial Birth Abortion horrors – PERIOD! BTW ‘Holy’ Israel – home of the “CHOSEN” – murders TWENTY PERCENT of its annual live births. So much for the myth of the ‘most holy anointed ones’.
No Jews – Fewer out of wedlock pregnancies
America was free of any major treason since colonial days. That is – until the most repugnant act of treason in history was committed by two Jew Marxist American citizens, Julius and Ethyl Rosenberg. They sold the atom bomb to the devil - just for money! The repercussions from that one vile greedy despicable treachery can never be fully accounted for. The loss of innocent life, misery, torture, destruction loss of freedoms of hundreds of millions of humans is unfathomable. Korea – Vietnam – trillions of dollars spent on defense that could have undoubtedly found a cure for cancer or other plague of mankind was lost forever. Then of course there are the millions of dead and wounded Americans from both wars – widows and orphans. ALL - a ‘special gift’ from the Jews. NONE of those mega calamities would have probably happened were it not for Jews – the people who ‘invented’ communism. Jews = treason.
No Jews – no major treason in America
America has been for most of my life – unique in that we have – as American citizens – been granted the RIGHT to possess and bear firearms. “Freedoms teeth” as President Washington called them. That is- until the Jews got into the act and began to work on their tireless agenda of destroying our Constitutional rights. ALL anti-gun organizations – ESPECIALLY the dreaded legal arm of the Communist Party – THE ALCU – are either supported financed, legislated by and or dominated by Jews.
No Jews – no gun control laws.
Remember hearing this so many times in the past – years ago – if someone voiced an opinion that was controversial – he could always say, “ Heck, it’s a free country!” Freedom speech – so unique to the USA and a Constitutionally granted right that has been fought for and kept by much patriot blood - has been eroded and has ALREADY cost decent sincere Americans prison terms!. Thanks to powerful Jew legislators and lobbies - probably within the next few years – in a decade for SURE – I can be arrested and prosecuted by the Feds just for presenting the facts that I have assembled here. The TRUTH has become a ‘hate crime’ – you know.
No Jews – no ‘thought police’
We were once on the Gold standard – and aside form our ‘Great depression’ I remember that prices were stable for decades! Gold was $36/oz for longer than I could remember. Even relatively economically poor people could afford to buy a home – a car – afford insurance and be able to pay for a Dr WITHOUT medical insurance! My struggling parents could even afford a Dr. to make ‘house calls’ when I was sick. I still remember that. Greedy banker barons changed that. Today greed has eclipsed all reason and the Federal Reserve has been the ruination of our economy. Who has their fingers in all of America’s finances? Who are the bankers that pull the strings on the quality of life of the average working stiff? You got it. The Greenspans - the self-chosen.
No Jews – no worthless ‘Monopoly play money’
Remember when Americans ran America? Remember when we had REAL enemies that REALLY wanted to AND COULD destroy us. They were called Communists. I remember them well – as THEY were the reason I volunteered to join Special Operations. The USA was the ONLY country that stood in the way of their godless agenda of world domination. Theirs was the bloodiest regime on the planet. The Jew originated Communists murdered 200,000,000 TOTALLY INNOCENT CIVILIANS to show that there was no limit to their ruthlessness. Today virtually our entire foreign policies are dictated from Israel. The majority of President Bush’s cabinet and advisors are Israelis or Israeli loyal traitors masquerading as loyal American citizens. Check it out for your self.
No Jews – no Communists
Used to be that it was tradition –(since we ARE – or at least WERE – a Christian based nation) - that all armed forces academies had prayer as part of the curriculum. Not anymore. Prayer AND morality and ethics was of course also a traditional part of American public school policy. Not anymore. You can thank the Jews for that.
No Jews – no forbidden prayers or ethics
Before the Jews invented the NAACP there were few racial problems in America and the injustices in discrimination that existed were well on the way to being resolved. It wasn’t until the disgraceful rise of Martin Lucifer King that I ever heard an intelligent educated man call a black person a nigger. I CLEARLY remember any white person calling a black a nigger just because of his color – as being ostracized by decent whites as a white-trash redneck. Know why? Because the vast majority of blacks back then were decent people and were not ‘ niggers’. Today – thanks to the Jews and their ceaseless efforts to stir up divisive racial hatred (THEY created hate terms like African-American) – we now have a country full of niggers – with decent black folks few and far between and mocked by their own race for being decent and civil. Jews are MASTERS of creating hatred where there was none.
No Jews – no race problems.
I remember when it was unthinkable for a seated American President – the ‘Conscience of the Nation’ – to blaspheme God by encouraging young Americans to go out and murder innocent men women and children in His Name. Today we have a Jew loyal madman – influenced, guided and manipulated by treasonous Christian hating Jew thugs, loyal only to THEIR country - Israel. Soulless amoral sadistic monsters like Rice and Albright teach young Americans that human life is meaningless as they mock any vestige of decorum or decency by describing the wanton murders of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians by OUR military – many of the murdered being children - as “COLLATERAL DAMAGE” – as if these children were inanimate fence-posts or stacks of cordwood! Cindy Sheehen was 100% correct. Her son DID die for nothing – or rather Israel. EVERY MAN THAT HAS RETURNED IN A BODY BAG FROM IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN - DIED FOR ISRAEL! PERIOD!
No Jews – no wasted American lives in the Mid –East – no OFFICIAL demeaning of human life as ‘useless garbage’
This was once a TRULY Christian country – with the teachings of Jesus the Prince of Peace dominating ALL who claimed Christianity as their moral compass. It didn’t matter if the church were Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist or any other Christian based denomination – the basic teachings were essentially AND necessarily the same. Compassion – love for our fellow man – moral behavior - modesty – contrition – truthfulness – fidelity and the spirit of the Golden Rule. Today we see a bastardized self-contradictory Talmudic Zionist heresy, which has almost completely destroyed true Christian doctrine in America. Satanic Churches seething with boisterous hatred, lies, and blasphemies beyond imagination – preaching racism, death and destruction. This monstrous nightmare did NOT exist before the Jews got influential enough to infiltrate their eternal nemesis – Christianity
No Jews – no destruction of TRUE Christianity
Television commercials used to be annoying at worst and sometimes even entertaining and clever. BUT – they NEVER taught our young to be evil or commit sins or that immoral conduct was absolutely OK -- actually BETTER than OK – and should be REWARDED! That was before Jews dominated Madison Ave. The Jews OWN the add world and care not who is hurt or what damage is done as long as there is MONEY to be made. The examples are legion – but I will mention a couple of classic categories. The one where the car company tells our youth that it DOESN”T MATTER if that have no credit or EVEN BAD CREDIT – that they WILL BE REWARDED ANYWAY! In other words – its OK kids – if you are a cheat, deadbeat, fraud, liar, con artist or crook – THAT IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR TO US AND WE WILL REWARD IT WITH A NEW CAR! Or how about the condom adds? Why not just tell teenagers that their parent’s wishes be damned – and just go out and screw their brains out anyway – cause it’s the COOL thing to do today! If you can’t understand that Jews are behind this degenerate mentality – you have already swallowed their poison.
No Jews – No legitimizing of evil
Remember when art was art? Something beautiful that inspired the imagination and passion of the viewer. Timeless paintings of the masters – breathtaking sculptures, ageless classics. No matter what the medium – it was the inordinate skill and imagination of the true artist that inspired him to create beauty and amazement for all ages and all generations to enjoy. Take the kids or Grandma to an exhibit without concern. Then came the Jews with their degenerate ‘art’ - usually sexual porn that the Jew mind seems so pre-occupied with – or something more sinister – openly blaspheming God in the most offensive way imaginable. AND to guarantee that their filth was made public – they ‘created’ the NEA and plenty of Jew Judges to enforce their public displays of depravities under the guise of ‘art’.
No Jews – no filth disguised as ‘art’
When I was a kid – I loved parades – all kinds – festive floats – huge balloon figures! Pretty girls in foreign costumes – patriotic parades with marching bands and soldiers – Christmas parades to get that feeling of brotherly love and peace – Western – Indian and cowboy parades with their Wild-West themes and so much more. It was wholesome and as American as apple pie and loved by kids – of all ages! But that is no more. Today a parent MUST approve the ‘parade’ lest it be - OR include some of the most graphic and filthy conduct imaginable to man. A parade with homosexual perverts! Their public displays of sodomy, public fondling – mockery of Christ – as universally disgusting us as they are – have ALWAYS been approved by, financed and or organized by Jews. You can take that to the bank!
No Jews – No homo public filth
It used to be that if ANY pervert was caught molesting an innocent child he was better off going straight to the police than chance the wrath of an angry mob of children’s parents. THAT friends – is ONE of the reasons why there were virtually NO such incidents when I was growing up in a not yet Jew controlled America. Today – if the pervert is a NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) ‘member’ – the parent will probably end up being sued by the pervert. You think I’m kidding! The Jews run NAMBLA and – big surprise – always defended by the powerful Jew dominated ACLU. These are now dangerous people because we were ‘tolerant’.
No Jews – no pedophile support
Remember when the good ole USA would defend its own – and if attacked ( I MEAN A REAL ACT OF WAR!) by a foreign Government – God help the country which would do such a thing.
Can you imagine a country like say Japan – during 1941 when their Govt. ordered their military to conduct an unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor, having such a STRANGLEHOLD on our country that when informed of the attack – President Roosevelt ordered our forces to stand down and allow the attack to continue because “ he did not want to embarrass our friend Japan”.
Of course not! What a ridiculous unrealistic scenario! We wreaked havoc on Japan and let them and the world know that such an act would suffer the severest consequences – of course! Lesson here? – you don’t screw around with American lives, without consequences mister!
Well – realities have changed. Fast-forward to the late 60s when the FRAUD/STOLEN so called State of Israel had time to insert her spies and poisonous influence with America. Let us create a truly analogous situation – albeit on a smaller scale – when the Jews committed an unprovoked attack on an unarmed American ship in international waters with the intent to MURDER ALL OF THE CREW and sink the ship. They failed in their cowardly treachery to sink the ship – but butchered in cold blood - over 200 of our sons fathers brothers neighbors and friends! That was the USS LIBERTY. NOT only did we PURPOSLY NOT come to the aid of our OWN citizens AS THEY WERE STILL DYING ON THE DECKS – but NEVER punished the animals that committed this act of war. WHY NOT? – YOU ASK IN UNDERSTANDABLE DISBELIEF AND AMAZEMENT? Because the Jews OWN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA LOCK STOCK AND BARREL – AND - there has NEVER EVEN BEEN A PROPER FORMAL INQUIRY!
No Jews – no unpunished murders of Americans by Jews - AND no spineless ‘puppet’ Presidents controlled by Israel!
The above shameful incident needs an additional ‘what if’ there NEVER any Jews in America approach. This is ‘speculation’ and the only part of this document that is not arguably factual. However it is an educated guess. The first thing that would have happened would have been that Med Fleet’s aircraft would have destroyed ALL of the attacking forces. Secondly – a state of war would have been declared by the President and most probably all of Israel’s aircraft and naval fleet destroyed by fleet air arm within hours. Whether or not we would have bombed that piece of crap phony country into the Stone Age is conjecture. They would been declared an enemy of the United States (officially) as they have of course been an enemy of ALL free people since day one. Their aid would have been cut off and there would have been such an outcry of anger from Americans that Jews here would probably be under strict surveillance by ALL Americans. There would be no angry Arab people – no concentration camps in Palestine – the stolen lands returned to its rightful owners – no ‘terrorists’ angry with America – no 9-11 – no dead American sons in Iraq and Afghanistan – no hundreds of thousands of murdered civilians by American war criminals – no hatred of America by a billion Muslims – and most probably no more Nambla no ACLU – no Jew controlled Disney World – no filth on TV – no pro-homosexual legislation – no anti-gun legislation – no freedom of speech legislation – no above a dollar /gal gas – no tax increases – no inflation – no filthy TV - no homosexual movements – no pedophile problems -no desecration of Christmas – and of course – flying would still ‘be fun’. The possible and probable positive consequences are endless!
I have only ‘scratched’ the surface - but use your own imagination for a hundreds of other blessings in a USA without Jews – or in this case – even if still present as people - at least without their corrosive pernicious immoral greedy influence and stranglehold on our nation any more. Take this country back – or lose it forever!
2006 by Joseph Cortina
jcortina@crescentandcross.com


For anyone to quote this man, use his articles to further their ideology or in endorse what he has said is truly SICK at heart. There is no excuse - one should do their homework before one quotes an author. Unless of course, that person is also full of hate and is an Anti-semite.

This guys shares space with other Anti-Semites..

You Might Be An Anti-Semite If... by Mark Glenn.

I don't want to post anymore of that hate here..but people need to know the truth about the idiot Mr. Cortina.

Blech!!!

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Bear the Leo
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posted September 28, 2006 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bear the Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This guy is really sick in the head. I cant believe the stuff I am reading that he writes. It is just sickening. Yes I agree, homework is a good thing when it comes to this type of stuff.

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posted September 28, 2006 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joe Cortina's lying rhetoric is representative of the bullsh*t coming out of leftists at move-on, daily kos and democrat underground.

These people are haters of the first order and they hate America and Americans first and foremost.

These are the same people who think they and their radical leftist friends should be running the United States.

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posted September 28, 2006 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's another America and American hater leftists swoon over.

Bill Maher Tells Larry King That America is 'A Stupid Country with Stupid People'
Posted by Noel Sheppard on September 4, 2006 - 15:03.


Whenever comedians make jokes about America or its people, folks are quick to defend their statements as being innocent and intentionally sarcastic just to evoke laughter. The implication is that such entertainers really don’t hate America, or Republicans for that matter, but are just kidding. Well, on August 28, Bill Maher was Larry King’s guest (replayed on September 2), and his statements about the United States and her people should quell the view that opinions he is expressing on HBO’s “Real Time” such as those identified here are done so just to get a laugh (audio link to follow with full transcript).

For example, Maher showed little regard for America by stating (emphasis mine): “You know, this country is, I've said this before, I'm going to keep saying it, it's a pitiful, helpless giant.” Think he was kidding? Later, Maher elaborated: “Again, because it's a stupid country with stupid people who don't pay attention.”

But Maher was just warming up. Early on in the interview, Maher once again expressed his anti-theistic proclivities (emphasis mine): “Well, first of all I think the bottom line is that religion makes people arrogant. One of the things I don't like about religion is I think it is arrogance...I think religion is usually, especially in this country, it's arrogance masquerading as humility.”

Later, he went after Republicans in a pretty childish fashion (emphasis mine): “They're bad at sex. They're pasty, unattractive white people, and if you had to have sex with them it would be over in an excruciating three minutes.”

Next, he went after Sen. George Allen (R-Virginia) and President Bush (emphasis mine):

“The point is George Allen and we've had him on the show, he's a nice guy. But he's another guy cut in the mold of George Bush. In other words, dim. Sorry, Senator Allen. I know you probably won't be coming back on my show now, but that's the truth. He's not a bright guy. And his excuse, we can concentrate on what an idiot I am or we can look to the future.”

Finally, Maher demonstrated his utter ignorance of geopolitics when King asked if America is better off with Saddam gone (emphasis mine): “We are not better off. We were never better off because Saddam was actually a bulwark against terrorism.” Some bulwark, Bill. How about the $25,000 he would regularly give to the families of successful Palestinian homicide bombers? Or, doesn’t that count? Maher continued: “He would never have allowed al Qaeda in Iraq. And I know people say oh, yes, there was al Qaeda. Yes, there was a few al Qaeda in the northern part of the country, which he did not control.” Nice piece of revisionist history, Bill. Those "few al Qaeda" actually comprised a terrorist training camp where Musab al-Zarqawi took refuge after America attacked Afghanistan. Who's dim now, Bill?
http://newsbusters.org/node/7373

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posted September 28, 2006 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once again we have a newsie / celebrity calling America a Country full of stupid people. Yet, how many times have I seen people post here in praise of people like Cortina or Maher?

DO they believe they are somehow NOT part of the stupid people or do they think Maher et. al., feel that only "we conservatives" are a part of that pool?

LMAO.... Most often these blowhard celebrities are so full of themselves they wouldn't give mere mortal lefties the time of day to even wash their clothes let alone care what they think.


How long will people sit there and say "Yeah, he's right! America IS full of stupid people and is a stupid country - well, everyone BUT ME" LMAO...

Sad and pathetic!

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posted September 28, 2006 08:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can overlook a lot of stupidity but all I can say to this guy's trash is WTF is wrong with him?

"No Jews – No large number of teen pregnancies
No Jews – no high teen suicides
No Jews – No drug culture
No Jews – No spiraling violent crime rates
No Jews – no destruction of Christmas
No Jews – no lurid graphic sex/porn in public movie houses and TV"

I couldn't even make it through the rest of the article. He uses the "n" word to describe African-Americans........OMG, it blows my mind that people like this really exist.

It sounds like Hitler is his idol. Let's keep the Jews and throw this ******* out of the country instead.

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posted September 29, 2006 01:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read a bit...not in the mood to read the rest.

From what I have read, that is some racist, bigotted stuff to generalize people of the Jewish faith like that and to try pin all the problems and ills of society on the Jews He's part of the problem because he's distracting people from getting to the truth of the matter by writing racist and hateful stuff, like this.

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posted September 29, 2006 02:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Day Dreamer.....he seems to be confusing "the Jews" with the New World Order People.....

.....or maybe he thinks they are one and the same...

Gotta admit he sounds pretty radical - at least in the article above....

As of now, I can't say I know exactly where he's coming from....(I thought I did from something of his, on another thread which I read before this)

Whatever he's trying to say, he needs to tone it down a little.....at least regarding the Jewish people...

Coming on so god-awful strong like that will certainly not win him more "Jew Haters" if that's what he's looking for....eeeeeeee

Must say I am curious as to why he is so bitter.....

(He had george bush down to a "T" I couldn't help but notice..so he's got something right!)

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posted September 29, 2006 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Joe Cortina's lying rhetoric is representative of the bullsh*t coming out of leftists at move-on, daily kos and democrat underground.

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posted September 29, 2006 03:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is a freak!

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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posted September 29, 2006 07:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah.....Rainbow???
He just needs to tone it down a little bit?
Are you serious?
Even if he toned down his radical language, he would still be coming from a place of total hatred.
This guy is a nut job.
He is a foaming-at-the-mouth racist.
The things he says have no logic to them.
Of course, America has changed since the 50s (I, for one, say thank God)..... society has changed and progressed.....all of western society has seen changes, not just America. I am sorry but I do not buy the "logic" that all ills of society are due to the influence of the big, bad, evil "Jews". No wonder his son is suicidal; listening to his nut-job father, I probably would be, too. We don't need to post any more of this guys rhetoric; it should stay buried in the deep, dark sewer of life -- where it belongs.

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I just wanted to add one more thing. He begins his rantings by degrading Mexicans. I am so tired of people who only want to hate/divide. I worked in staffing (putting other people to work) for quite some time and worked a lot with Mexican immigrants. The folks we put to work were not illegal -- as they had to have a work visa to get a job. As a whole, they were some of the most dependable, hard-working people I have met. We have a huge Mexican presence here and there is now an area where most reside (coined "little Mexico") -- anyway, this area used to be run-down and inhabited by drug dealers. They have turned this neighborhood around, cleaned it up, built churches and restaurants -- and are adding to our community in a positive way.

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Mystic,

I absolutely agree with you about immigrants. The key word for me is "illegal" but to confuse the two, as Cortina does, is just wrong. I don't condone what he said about Mexican's period - illegal or not. Slamming a race to make oneself feel better makes me sick.

Rainbow,

That is some pretty harsh verbage coming out of your mouth (or keyboard). 'Tone it down a litte" are you kidding? This guy is evil and blames EVERYONE for his problems, Bush is just another in his book of people to hate.

It is sad how you can actually semi-defend this guy, wondering why he is so bitter yet applauding his take on Bush.

That is similar to saying "well, I don't think Ted Bundy should have killed all those women, but I think he was right about his philosophy concerning abused women".

What is next? "well Hitler was wrong for killing Jewish people, mentally challenged and those who opposed him, but I do love his take on Astrology".

Blech!!!!

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Some people just don't get it do they? Talk about someone filled with hate and evil. Nice endorsement of this hate-monger Rainbow -

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Pid.....
Thanks for the very interesting articles by Joe Cortina....


He's an excellent writer....with a lot of savvy!

I'd like to post the link.....

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ISRAEL - MY EXPERIENCES THERE, IN THE SUMMER OF 1989

....

Rainbow goes on to state:

It looks to me as though Mr. Cortina has some pretty impressive "credentials" and has had quite a few years of experiences to validate some of the stuff of which he speaks....so while it is easy enough to call him an anti-semite (which he most probably is) - one should not be so quick to consider that it is not be without (what he considers) good reason.

It looks to me as though his "dislike" for Israelis is attributed to some of the things he actually experienced and saw with his own eyes, rather than him being just some guy who "hates the Jews" for the fun of it!

He has a lot of bitterness to be sure....but much of it appears to be for a lot of "covering up" that's going on, among many other things...

I'm glad that he's still able to ventilate....

Free speech....

That's what it's all about, huh?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002737-3.html


You make me want to vomit because your words are so disgusting. No wonder I never really took offense to you words- look at who they come from and the type of people you support.

Get some help!

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Not that you noticed, SISTAH! (and you certainly know what I mean by THAT seeings how we're in the SAME club - in fact, I think you were the organizer)......

....but I explained to Day Dreamer in my post to her that when I posted what you just posted above, (which you are no doubt displaying, hoping to ''belittle" me in your typically Pid fashion.....)

.....when I posted that - I HAD NOT YET SEEN HIS HATRED POST ABOUT THE JEWS (which you went digging for to try and put me down!)

I feel no further explanations are necessary.


I KNOW WHAT I DID, AND WHEN I DID IT......

SO POST ALL YOU WANT WITH YOUR 'EVIDENCE' THAT RAINBOW IS A 'JEW HATER!" You're really stretching it, woman!

You're still the trouble maker, I see....so much for wanting peace around here....ha. Big joke!

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PS....PID I thought you were so totally AGAINST using posts from "other threads!" I've seen you b1tch about it, enough, but it's okay when YOU do it! Typical you!

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What is it they say?

"What's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander?"

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Since we're using posts from "other threads" let's show my WHOLE post, so at least those you are trying to turn against me, will have the opportunity to know to what article of Mr. Cortina's I was referring.....

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Pid.....

Thanks for the very interesting articles by Joe Cortina....


He's an excellent writer....with a lot of savvy!

I'd like to post the link.....

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ISRAEL - MY EXPERIENCES THERE, IN THE SUMMER OF 1989

My name is Joe Cortina.

I am a retired Florida businessman who has done
substantial world traveling - some purely as a 'tourist' and some in areas - shall I say- 'having nothing to do with vacationing'.

I am a former special
operations officer and have done intelligence investigator work for over 15years - some of it overseas - mostly in Central America - but also in the Mid-East.

My political posture is ‘conservative’ and my religious values are Christian.

Exposing lies and revealing the truth was what I did professionally for a long time.

I have hunted REAL terrorists in jungles with Salvadorian Rangers
and Marines - so I am not a stranger to dangerous environments and am
familiar with basic protocols of civilized conduct regarding civilians and the military - something that the Israelis do not consider applicable to them.

For anyone wishing to challenge my credibility - I am willing to show credentials.

I have a flawless civic record, an honorable military record
and have never committed a crime nor ever been accused of such.

I am mentioned as my father's son in the registry - 'PIONEER FLORIDA.'

My grandfather was a pioneer in Florida in the most literal sense, and my
father was a respected businessman and foreign diplomat.


I was invited to Israel by a former military comrade who attained a substantial rank and subsequently ended up as the ranking military attache'
from our govt., to the Israeli military (IDF).

I went places and saw things
only a hand full of 'private sector' Americans will EVER experience.

My 'specially authorized' trips included Gaza City, Hebron and areas of
militarily protected Israeli 'settlements'.

I will touch on only a few of
what I considered the most revealing experiences.

I can't stress this
enough.

What I write here is but a tear in a sea of misery that I witnessed.

Treason to the United States:

While there I witnessed MANY signs and graffiti showing enthusiastic and
shameless support by Israelis for the convicted American traitor Jonathon
Pollard - a Jewish - Zionist Soviet spy.

Intelligence experts in America have termed Pollards treasonous acts second only to the Rosenbergs in the
level of betrayal and endangerment to every American man woman and child.

According to officials in Tel Aviv, Pollard was AND STILL IS considered a
hero - literally - to the Israelis.

So much for any notion of the Israeli 'love and concern' for American families.

Israeli destruction of civilian homes and businesses:

The road blocks as one neared Gaza strip became increasingly secure and
formidable.

The absence of any civilian traffic was conspicuous.

Once in either a suberb of Gaza or another city in the 'Strip' - I don't remember the
exact name - a ride down the main street looked like a scene from some WWII
movie.

Windows shattered, charred rubble and destroyed vehicles littered
the area. (I saw one still burning).

Then I noticed something a little strange.

There was no building with any floor above the first. ALL buildings had any
additional floors blasted into rubble - much of the jagged former construction black and charred.

This was a city street no much different from any American small town. Shops, restaurants, services, apartment etc. blown to bits and vacant as a tomb.


I learned quickly why the upper parts of the buildings (peoples homes and
businesses, incidentally) - were blown away. This was to reduce any cover
for potential snipers who might threaten Israeli patrols.

Kind of like the mentality and rationale if it had been your hometown - after being occupied by the Soviets or Chinese communists.

Just blow it all up!

It is of no consequence if these were homes and businesses of the Palestinians -- it
was occupied by the Israelis now!


Mockery of America:


At one of the many roadblocks - usually manned by a small IDF military unit,
we stopped our armored vehicle just long enough for the CIA to 'inspect' the
situation.

I got outside and overheard 2 of these young soldiers speaking.

Much to my surprise, they had Brooklyn accents! I asked them where they
were from, and they answered New York.

Apparently they had left the States to serve a foreign power -remember - these were American citizens (who just happened to be Jews).


Puzzled at this bizarre reply, I decided to give benefit of doubt and responded with something like: "Boy, you guys are really something - having served the military of your country (remember - they were AMERICAN citizens) and then investing your time in a 'feeling for duty' to Israel".

They answered proudly and without hesitation: " Oh no - we haven't served in the
United States military - there's no way."

So if there is any doubt where
their loyalties lie - consider their unabashed answer of mockery for the notion of serving America.


I can't think of ANY male American CITIZEN who would sneer at serving the
United States but willingly owed their loyalties to -say Italy, or Greece or
Ireland, or France or Germany - just because his ancestors were of that
ethnic group.

AND - if one such person voiced such an opinion - you can imagine what people would think of him.

But of course - apparently if you are Jewish - such odious and OPENLY PROUD mockery of love of this
country is acceptable conduct.

So much for American Jewish loyalty to America.


Israeli sanctioned creation of 'incidents':


I witnessed 'settlers' vehicles driving around and around the homeland of
the Palestinians (JUST LIKE YOUR HOMETOWN - NEVER FORGET THAT FACT!) whose purpose was only to taunt and humiliate the local inhabitants.

One of these cars had a sun roof through which protruded an Israeli flag (just like a Red
Chinese flag from a car driving around in your American 'occupied'
neighborhood)

- AND an M-16 automatic rifle to insure their torment of the helpless Palestinians was 'enforced.'

ANY resistance to the dreaded
'settlers!" and the UNITED STATES supplied - IDF rolls in and just blows
them away.

After all - remember - the Palestinians are considered no more than animals
to the Israelis. Do you see some sort of hypocrisy here?

Regarding the
horrendous brutality to the Palestinian civilians - more than one
conscientious Israeli journalist has concluded that "the Palestinians are
now the Jews - and the Israelis are now the NAZIS."

This is a COMMON
reference in Israel today.

Ever see that analogy in an American Newspaper,
magazine or TV presentation?

Ever wonder why not?


There are dozens of such stories involving brutality and inhumane treatment
of the Palestinians by the Israelis - which must be put in historic
perspective.

This is the ancestoral heritage and home of these Palestinians
for over TWELVE HUNDRED YEARS!

An entire MILENNIA longer
than the United States has been in existance! Just immagine a FOREIGN power
GIVING AWAY some 85% of the entire United States to an invading foreign
Colonizer!

This land has been the home for generations and generation of
Palestinians, and 'Israelis' are the intruders and occupying force here
-- NOT the other way around.

Cold-blooded murders, torture, shelling
of schools and hospitals, bulldozing of homes with civilians buried alive,
destruction of ambulances - and nearly every type of war crimes imaginable
including torture of eight out of ten Palestinians brought in for "questioning"!

Many of these incidents were shared with me - although several from
UNQUESTIONABLY reputable sources, I cannot PERSONALLY
attest to them - but what I have told the reader and will tell -
are incidents and conduct I witnessed FIRST HAND.

Brutality against children:


I will share one more incident - one I will not forget - which classically
characterized the Israeli attitude to people which they OPENLY refer to as
"animals."

While in another area of Gaza, we were following our IDF Para escort.

It was an open jeep with heavily armed Paratroops. Suddenly it screeched
to a halt not 10 yards in front of us and out jumped the men!

- one immediately dropped to one knee and took careful aim at his victim to our
immediate right.

The 'enemy' some 50 feet away - throwing egg size rocks at their tormentors.

Hardly sophisticated or dangerous - but there he stood - proud, defiant and fearless - a 10 year old child.

This was HIS neighborhood
and HIS country and HIS land -and he was a prisoner in this Israeli
'concentration camp' for "animals."
Think of it as a 'role change' for David and Goliath.

Children like this young lad, routinely 'disappear' in
occupied territories. They are just never seen or heard of again.

I have children
- and grandchildren whom I would defend with my life. I would like you to imagine
for just a moment that you are not an American - just close your eyes and visualize
-- finding your beloved 10 year old child with half his head blown away - the flies
feasting on his scattered brains. The unimaginable accident ? - NO - a war crime- and it is
YOUR child!

The 'sin' of your child?

He was throwing egg sized rocks at an Israeli tank
- BOUGHT and PAID FOR by AMERICAN citizens.

Could you just forget it as if
were only the family cat - or would you swear revenge/ justice against the monsters that
made it happen?

Could you possibly be so arrogant as to believe that this Palestinian
mother and father loved their child any less than you would - or that 'his' life is 'worth'
less in the eyes of God?


I had a Canon 35mm camera (official CIA issue at the time) and immediately
jumped out of our vehicle and zeroed in on the would-be murderer - not 10 paces in front of me.


Apparently he saw what I was doing and muttered something I couldn't hear -
as he withdrew back to his jeep. I never saw the child again and was
grateful that I had been able to save his life by my 'intimidation' with a
camera.

God only knows how many children that same jeep full of soldiers had
murdered before or after I was there. It is a common practice by the Israeli
govt. military to murder children for even the slightest provocation.

It is doubtful
that the young child in this incident ever saw another birthday. Just another nameless
dead "goy" - animal- to the Israelis.

These are the events that occur daily in the 'concentration camps' of the
Israelis - and MUCH MUCH worse! You will NEVER EVER see these horrors in
the 'news' and rarely if ever even hear of them. Virtually ALL of these
brutal activities are 'filtered' from the American public.

You are ONLY
ALLOWED to see what the 'entities' which control the media see fit for you
to see.

ONLY relatively recently - with the wider offerings of 'chat rooms'
'web sites' and other similar internet facilities, do we begin to gain
access to the truth without thousands of miles of travel - years of seasoned
intelligence experience or personal perils.


If you are disgusted with the mega-lies and misleading propaganda - educate
yourself as to what is REALLY going on in the world.

You will NOT find the
complete truth in the newspaper - or Time - or Newsweek - Or Rush - or our
Govt. - or TV or even our hypocrite evangelical pseudo-Christian church
'leaders'.

These daily atrocities committed by the Israelis AND funded by YOU and ME,
are carefully 'filtered' by our Israeli controlled press.

Despite the one-sided
propaganda, disinformation, distortions, and outright lies that we have been fed for years,
you may now find and know the truth. The REAL truth – as in “so help me God”

We Americans have been responsible for the deaths of WAY too many
innocent human beings throughout the world recently. Sooner or later - the
truth will come to light - as it always does.

Do YOU have innocent blood
'on your hands'?

ESPECIALLY encouraged by the blasphemous hatred sponsored by your supposedly ‘Christian’ church? A LOT of Americans do - and a 'higher' Judge WILL hold them accountable for these crimes against humanity - even if not in this life.

Keep your eternal soul. Keep you conscience clean. The truth IS available.
World War III is in the 'making' folks. The ‘model’ revelation for ‘Armageddon’ as described by Nostrodamus centuries ago, is now, at the beginning of the second millennium - becoming frighteningly clear. It is a no-brainer if you just open your eyes and your ears. There is still time.

Thank you for taking time to read this. I am willing to speak personally with any moral American who still possesses a conscience and must know the truth.

I may be contacted through whtt@cox.net

May God grant you the conscience to care about the good and the evil
May God grant you the wisdom to distinguish the good from the evil
May God grant you the courage to defend the good and expose the evil

May YOU open your eyes and your ears- AND your heart
so God may be able to grant you these priceless gifts.


Joe Cortina

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It looks to me as though Mr. Cortina has some pretty impressive "credentials" and has had quite a few years of experiences to validate some of the stuff of which he speaks....so while it is easy enough to call him an anti-semite (which he most probably is) - one should not be so quick to consider that it is not be without (what he considers) good reason.

It looks to me as though his "dislike" for Israelis is attributed to some of the things he actually experienced and saw with his own eyes, rather than him being just some guy who "hates the Jews" for the fun of it!

He has a lot of bitterness to be sure....but much of it appears to be for a lot of "covering up" that's going on, among many other things...

I'm glad that he's still able to ventilate....

Free speech....

That's what it's all about, huh?


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posted September 29, 2006 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow,

Let's look at the time line shall we?

I posted the articles about Cortina on the 'Bush is a Devil" thread first. To which you answered:

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Pid.....
Thanks for the very interesting articles by Joe Cortina....


He's an excellent writer....with a lot of savvy!

I'd like to post the link.....

______________________________


You then went on to post the article about his time in Isreal which is RIFE with anti-semetic remarks.

You KNEW about the remarks because you posted to GeminiStone on that SAME thread at 11:06PM EST:

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geminstone........
Sorry to hear about the shabby treatment your father, has been subjected to....

He certainly doesn't deserve it....

How sad!

A respected Vietnam Vet who served his country well....

.....and please tell him he should NOT feel "shame" for considering encouraging his son to dodge...should the draft ever come back....

My god....THAT'S PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE!

Then at 2:30AM you post this.....

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Day Dreamer.....he seems to be confusing "the Jews" with the New World Order People.....
.....or maybe he thinks they are one and the same...

Gotta admit he sounds pretty radical - at least in the article above....

As of now, I can't say I know exactly where he's coming from....(I thought I did from something of his, on another thread which I read before this)

Whatever he's trying to say, he needs to tone it down a little.....at least regarding the Jewish people...

Coming on so god-awful strong like that will certainly not win him more "Jew Haters" if that's what he's looking for....eeeeeeee

Must say I am curious as to why he is so bitter.....

(He had george bush down to a "T" I couldn't help but notice..so he's got something right!)

_______________________


YOU even referenced him as being an anti-semite.

I never called you a "Jew Hater" I wouldn't know if you hate Jewish people or not, but your words convey otherwise.

I looked this guy up because I thought it was a hoax at first- then I found out his other articles. YOU would have found out too if you did reseach. Heck, even in your initial post when you pasted his letter on the Devil thread you stated:


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SPEAKING OF DISRESPECT......
I found a very interesting OPEN LETTER on the net written by a very disgruntled American who like so many other people, also has no "respect" for dubya.

Now before I get a tongue-lashing for "daring" to post this, I just want it known that I am merely sharing this man's thoughts, and after reading it, confess that SOME of them (tho no all) I indeed share with him..

However, he has some uflattering things to say about Israel and the Jewish people which I DO NOT necessarily agree with, even while agreeing with his asscessment of gwb....

________________________


So you KNEW he had an anti-semetic bend, BUT you couldn't help yourself.

You can call me a trouble maker all you want, but if I posted a letter such as yours and didn't know my homework and someone called me on it - I WOULD admit it and state I was wrong.

I never said anything about not posting from other threads. I have no clue where you got that other than when I have pointed out your less than truthful manner of truncated a post and adding your own TWO-CENTS into it.

There can be no peace unless there is tolerance- something you have quite a lot to learn about.

Keep posting because you just keep making yourself look... well.. you know how you look.

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Sorry Pid....as usual your "flawed logic" doesn't fly.....

Your post above WAS NOT in the '"bush is the devil thread".....so I had not seen it, regardless of what your "timeline proofes" are....as it was on a thread I hadn't seen yet....

Damn, you're goofy!

btw, I've got some extra toads and spiders in case you need them....

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And the immature name-calling.. I thought we were all past that - but I find it ironic that the person that keeps using pictures and references to "clubs" to call someone names is also the person that cried about it on several threads and even started a thread to me about it.

In any case, I have not stooped to that level nor have I gotten mean-spirited with you. If posting facts and telling you that your endorsement of this sick man makes me want to vomit offends you, then that is too bad.

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Sorry.. but you're wrong Rainbow. I did post about the guy along with an article WELL before you posted:

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This Cortina character indicates he has been on medication that makes him sick because the VA won't give him what he needs. He is wrong, the subsitutes are chemically identical to the name brands.
Why would he vote for Bush TWICE when we were already at war at the second go around? If he felt so strongly that Bush was a child murderer, wouldn't this keep him from voting for Bush a SECOND TIME?

His nasty letter and vitrol sounds similar to what I have read here by some of our own hostile leftests...

Makes me wonder....

BUT.. then I came across ANOTHER link with a letter this Mr. Cortina wrote to the Georgia NAMI because he did not want his psychotic son taking meds

"Thanks to you and scum like you, my innocent young son now lives in a drug
infested mind numbing hell. You hypocrite lying quack ******** are guilty
of the murders and suicides of countless young people. You have a LOT OF
INNOCENT BLOOD on your hands.

As God be my witness - if any tragedy befalls my child as a result of the
deadly drugs you criminals advise unsuspecting parents to force on their
children - I WILL spend my remaining life, fortune and energies to see that
you and all the criminals associated with your evil agenda of death and fear
and terror - will be be brought to justice - charged, tried and imprisoned
for your unconscionable crimes!

I WILL be there to testify against you. I will be your biggest nightmare. I
WILL wreak my vengence upon you or ANY person that seeks to destroy my
child. You have been advised!

Joe Cortina - father of a suicidal child - thanks to your ilk"

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He claims MANY people have INNOCENT blood on their hands now doesn't he?


But here is the worst part of it all..

This is his OTHER open letter to war criminals:


AN OPEN LETTER
TO AMERICAN WAR CRIMINALS AN OTHERS WHO SCREAM FOR THE BLOOD OF INNOCENT PEOPLE IN FOREIGN LANDS – AND – AT HOME


I am finally convinced that a huge percentage of the American people are the worst hypocrites imaginable – considering the fact that some 80% of us claim to be “Christians”. The AVAILABLE facts that our barbarian young sons have murdered many thousands of COMPLETELY innocent women and children in Iraq and ten times that many in Afghanistan tell me a great deal about our present day character. The number of innocents dying or dead from disease, starvation, suicide, and deformed mutated newborn ( thanks to our “safe” DU weapons) are now over SIX figures.


But – that’s OK – because these are Arab peoples and are only “animals” as we are taught by our criminal Zionist leadership – and as I was advised while in the Occupied Territories’ at GAZA in the Summer of 89. The Talmudic Jews call them ‘golem’ ( cattle), and our own ‘intellectually challenged’ people slander all of them with terms like “sand niggers” – “camel jockeys” – and “rag-heads”. The tens of millions of American evangelical ‘Judeo-Christians’ who have been weaned on the blasphemous Oxford University Press’s ‘New and Improved’ revised Schofield Bible don’t consider Arab/Muslim people worth being respected as fellow humans – and these ‘sub-humans’ are ALL considered to be “cursed” by God. But of course we are just doing “God’s will”.


I suggest that all this will – in the very near future - lead us into more and more pre-emptive serial wars. I believe that this madness will ignite consequences of unimaginable proportions and will ultimately lead us into a ‘dark age’ in America’s history the likes of which will eventually destroy ALL semblance of any goodness left in this country. A country that has endeared itself to me – in uniform and civilian life for over 60 years. As the venerable French philosopher, writer and statesman, Alexis De Tocqueville so ominously stated over 170 years ago: “ America is great because America is good, and when America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great”. Remember that - always.


So, - for those Americans who feel so arrogant and proud of the unspeakable horrors we have committed AND abetted in committing -- against these innocents – including Palestinian women and children – murdered by the thousands with equipment WE have supplied – and in the name of “just cause” – “honor” – “liberation” etc. - I have decided to do something different.


Instead of endlessly trying to make the “deaf” hear or the “blind” see – I will give you something to remember, a ‘tool’ which should ease you collective consciences – should you ever come to the future realization - that the Godless horrors you now so proudly boast about – just might in fact be a hypocritical abhorrence in the ‘eyes of God.


If the time for soul searching comes – and the nightmares of unspeakable horrors that YOU and your mindless cruelty made possible -creep into your peaceful sleep – just repeat this mantra, over and over and over again until you believe it.


REMEMBER – these dead, mutilate and dying people were NOT your enemies – they were CREATED ‘enemies’. Created by our press – our leaders – our willing cadre of psycho-monsters, and our own inane fears and ignorance.


HERE THEN, IS THE ‘BLUEPRINT’ WITH WHICH TO ‘CREATE’ AN ‘ENEMY’ – KILL HIM – TORTURE HIM – MUTILLATE HIM – STARVE HIM – IMPOVERISH HIM – HUMILLIATE HIM, AND NOT HAVE THE SLIGHTESS REMORSE FOR YOUR CONDUCT.


This 'tool' is the creation of the psychologist. An intense hatred for people who have done us no wrong - whom we have never met or seen and whose sufferings and burdens and culture we may know nothing about. Here then is how the twisted mind of these pseudo physicians have incited weaker minded people to do their depraved murderous tasks. THIS is how we turn our youth into cold-blooded murderers 'on demand'. The humans that our leaders wish to exterminate must first be 'dehumanized' - ESPECIALLY in the naeive, pliable empty minds of our youth..


Start with an ‘empty canvass’ – then sketch, in broad outline, the forms of the men, women and children.


Dip into the unconscious inkwell of your own disowned darkness, and with a WIDE brush – stain these strangers with the sinister hue of the shadow.


Trace onto the faces of ‘the enemy’, the greed, hatred, and cruelty – you dare NOT claim as your own.


Obscure the sweet individuality of each and every face – ESPECIALLY the children! Then erase all hints of the myriad of the loves, hopes, and fears that play through the kaleidoscope of every finite heart.


Twist the smile on every face – ESPECIALLY the children – until it forms the downward arc of cruelty. Strip the flesh from bones until only the abstract skeleton of death remains.


Exaggerate each feature until a man is metamorphisized into a beast – or vermin – or insect. Fill in the background with malignant figures from ancient nightmares – devils, demons, and other specters of evil.


When your icon of the enemy is complete, you will be able to KILL without GUILT – and SLAUGHTER without shame or conscience. The thing you destroy will have become merely ‘an enemy of God’ – an impediment to the sacred dialectic of history!


Envision this morbid panorama over and over until you are comfortable with it and rendered whatever conscience remains as childish and impotent. Then – in your mind-you will have made the truth into lies – evil into righteousness – horror into duty and feel at ease with having sold your soul to the devil. It worked in Afghanistan – it worked in Iraq and will work in every relatively defenseless country we allow the Jews to decide must be destroyed. It works every time – at home ( WACO) and abroad (IRAQ), but ONLY with a dull witted ignorant criminally irresponsible people..


Death will become a merciful escape for most of the poor peoples of any country we decide to destroy next . If we can find no more enemies to torment – be assured that Israel will identify them for us until their last enemy is murdered. THEN there will be only one last enemy – the Christians. The Jews murdered some 20,000,000 Christians in Lenin’s Marxist Russia. WACO was just a ‘test’. The forced removal of the Laws of God from Chief Justice Moore’s courthouse was just another ‘small’ test. You may be ASSURED – it WILL NOT end there.


THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE – most of whom profess to be ‘Christians’ – and essentially - NOBODY offered to protect the people burned alive or the sacred tablets. We will witness more and bolder actions against our own people and our most sacred traditions in the very near future. Not to worry – even if we run out of people around the world to destroy for our amusement - we will be provided with lots of “religious cults” to incinerate as “threats to society” and children to exterminate “for their own protection” right here at home.


And for those who begin to question these grizzly murders, there will always be and lots of ‘gladiators’ and ‘chariot races’ and other perversions in our ‘Coliseums’ around the country. There, of course, to keep our minds off of those ‘unpleasant’ issues like defending our Christian faith or defending our Constitution, teaching our children how to think for themselves, or even defending our OWN neighbors! Here then is the capacity for the average American to set the example of responsibility and maturity and ethics for the future of their country and of their children. This brainless mentality can best be summed up in my community – the Tampa Bay Area with just two words - the limits of our Republican horizon – GO BUCKS!.


Oh – BTW – I AM a registered Republican and a hawk to my friends – have been for decades – and am now not too proud of what we have become.


May God forgive you.


Joe Cortina

He is also an avid Anti-Semite.. http://www.currentissues.tv/Joe_Cortina.html

Well Rainbow, you SURE know how to pick them.


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pidaua
Knowflake
Posts: 5602
From: Arizona - Moving to Germany to be with Bear the Leo
Registered: May 2002
posted September 28, 2006 05:48 PM
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Yes GeminiStone.. you are missing something.
The Liberal Leftest Congress continually cuts aid to the Military and the VA. As long as we have those kinds of people in office, jamming up the raises for the men and women in the service and cutting Benefits for Veterans - they we will ALWAYS be missing something.

PS... I am almost SURE your father is nothing like the Hate filled, anti-semite Cortina.

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You can't back yourself out of this one and even if you try to edit your posts- they will forever be saved in mine


Keep up the name calling....

"btw, I've got some extra toads and spiders in case you need them.... "


It is only showing you for what you are... and yet.. I have still responded in the same manner. It must be killing you.

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posted September 29, 2006 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay Pid...

Here is what I was talking about when I said he had some pretty impressive "credentials."

quote:
I am a former special
operations officer and have done intelligence investigator work for over 15years - some of it overseas - mostly in Central America - but also in the Mid-East.

My political posture is ‘conservative’ and my religious values are Christian.

Exposing lies and revealing the truth was what I did professionally for a long time.

I have hunted REAL terrorists in jungles with Salvadorian Rangers
and Marines - so I am not a stranger to dangerous environments and am
familiar with basic protocols of civilized conduct regarding civilians and the military - something that the Israelis do not consider applicable to them.

For anyone wishing to challenge my credibility - I am willing to show credentials.

I have a flawless civic record, an honorable military record
and have never committed a crime nor ever been accused of such.


....and he even has something in common with you, Pid. He is a "conservative Christian."

He also went on to explain WHY he has such bitterness against the Israelis and (even tho the things he witnessed may have called for way more hatred than you and I may conjur for anyone comminting such acts!)

What he basically said was that he saw innocent children murdered....

....he saw Israeli people "dissing" America...

....and paying honor to one whom we considered a traitor...one Jonathon Pollard

....among other things......

Now the guy could have been making all that stuff up (altho I think everybody should be heard, and information they have looked in to...because many people with truth are ignored)........

.....but why he would want to do that, is way beyond me, unless he was just a guy who was born with "Jew hating" syndrome....

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pidaua
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posted September 29, 2006 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You make it sound like me being a Conservative Christian is wrong- since he identifies himself as such. By the way, bolding that line the way you did seems a bit over the top. As if we are in some kind of "conservative Christian club". I'm not sure how my religion or political party is relevant when it comes to this racist or the fact that you quoted him.

We can all claim to be something we are not. Actions speak louder than words. His actions protray him as an angry racist.

You can post again and again all the snippets you want. You will still not be able to back out of your endorsement.

If you have something intelligent or new to say / discuss. I will respond. But concerning this rambling on about your posts, endorsements or otherwise - The point has been proven.. I am moving on.

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posted September 29, 2006 03:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pid, Pid, Pid....duh! and double duh!

The article Cortina wrote which you posted at the beginning of this thread entitled A USA WITHOUT A JEW was by far the worst article he wrote concerning his dislike for Israelis....

When I say I DID NOT SEE IT until you posted it there.....BELIEVE ME....I DID NOT SEE IT! (that's the ONLY fricking place you had it posted)

So no matter how much you try to twist and turn things (which you're not really very good at, but I sure give you credit for trying like hell).....you CAN'T make it work out that I did....so quite wasting your time!

Now....as far as the "hag" thing...I'm willing to give it a rest...*sigh*

HOWEVER......

......when I see you baring your poisonous fangs, as you've been doing of late, (by saying such things as " I make you want to vomit," then I feel it is my duty to remind you that you're starting to reveal your true identity as a member of the "sistah hood" that you organized.

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posted September 29, 2006 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and i am NOT trying to back out of my endorsement!

I agreee with EVERY thing that Mr. Cortina said about george w bush!!!!!!

He had that all EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!!!!

Now go tend to your caldron.....

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