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Author Topic:   Russ Limbaugh Accuses Michael J. Fox of Faking His Parkingson's Disease
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posted November 01, 2006 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is sick, I cant believe Maher did that- I saw a parody on the web once with a stingray chasing Steve Irwin's face..made me sick...how do people live with themselves?

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posted November 01, 2006 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop,

I read about Fox not reading the MO bill that he is supporting. His words:

"Fox: Well, I don't think that's true. You know, I campaigned for Claire McCaskill. And so I have to qualify it by saying I'm not qualified to speak on the page-to-page content of the initiative. Although, I am quite sure that I'll agree with it in spirit, I don't know, I— On full disclosure, I haven't read it, and that's why I didn't put myself up for it distinctly. "

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The interview was actually quite unbearable, even to read because he is all over the place. Stephanopoulos didn't get much to say either.

Later in the interview Fox contradicts himself when he discussing using fertilized eggs to harvest stem cells

"Fox: Right, and I agree with them on adult stem cell research. I mean, let's talk about what we agree on. I agree that stem cell research is fantastic; we should pursue it. I agree that we should have no human cloning. We're against that. We're against egg farming, that notion. We agree on all of that. The only thing is, we would like to include embryonic stem cell research, which our scientists say has the best hope for cures and breakthroughs.

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IF you open the door to embyronic stem cell research you open the door to egg farming. They would like to take the embyros of from donor eggs (from in vitro fertilization clinics) and use those to develop and harvest cells. Once harvested- the egg or what is left, is trash.

People will start to sell their eggs for fertilization- to be used for research.

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=2613377&page=2

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posted November 02, 2006 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is simply pathetic Pid that someone would permit himself to be used in the service of a special interest group who are working in opposition to his own best interests.

MJF has put himself forward in support of a Constitutional Amendment...not merely a new statute but a Constitutional Amendment which memorializes "cloning" into the Missouri constitution.

Here's another story bearing on the subject of stem cell research you probably haven't heard anything about...at least not from the main stream press who are backing embryonic stem cell research.

The Big Stem-Cell Breakthrough
That you're not hearing about . . .
by Wesley J. Smith
10/31/2006 12:12:00 PM

DID YOU SEE THE SIZE OF THOSE HEADLINES?

"Stem Cells Used to Create Artificial Liver," the New York Times screamed on its front page. "Breakthrough! Stem Cells to One Day Create Organ for Liver Transplant," was how the Washington Post put it. "Stem Cell Breakthrough Demonstrates Viability of New Science," yelled the Los Angeles Times. "Stem Cell Hope for People with Liver Disease," agreed USA Today. The story was so big that Katie Couric narrated a special report, expressing her profound gratitude for the hope these dedicated stem-cell scientists had brought to suffering humanity.

What's that? You didn't see those headlines? You say you somehow missed the story? Well, don't blame yourself. You are not out of touch. The above headlines never appeared, the stories have not been written.

Don't get me wrong: The breakthrough described in the fictional headlines is real. British scientists have created an artificial liver--from scratch--using stem cells. The research does offer tremendous hope for the alleviation of human suffering. But you probably didn't hear about this amazing achievement because the stem cells the scientists used to build a human liver did not come from embryos: They came from umbilical cord blood.

This made their scientific achievement politically incorrect. A story that doesn't validate the stem-cell mantra that embryonic stem cells offer the "best hope" for future cures isn't worth much attention. Even the most important adult or umbilical cord blood stem-cell breakthroughs usually receive only minor, inside-the-paper coverage. This is the primary reason why so many people still don't know about the many advances being made on a continual basis in human research with ethical, adult and umbilical cord blood stem cells.

HERE'S THE STORY:

Two scientists from Newcastle University, Nico Forraz and Colin McGuckin, have built dime-sized human livers using stem cells found in umbilical cord blood. The livers are already sufficient for use in drug testing--perhaps in place of using some animals and humans as research subjects. The scientists believe that within five years, stem-cell generated liver tissue could be sufficiently perfected for use in treating human diseases caused by injury, disease, and alcohol abuse. Perhaps in 15 years, the technique could even be employed to manufacture whole human livers suitable for transplantation.

Contrast this general media's shunning of this major story with its sensationalistic reporting several weeks ago of the bogus story that scientists had obtained embryonic stem cells without destroying embryos. That story, unlike the umbilical-cord-blood-stem-cells-into-liver breakthrough, got front-page play and major television coverage. It was deemed news because it was seen as undermining President Bush's stem-cell policy.

Indeed, if this new breakthrough had been accomplished with embryonic stem cells instead of umbilical cord blood stem cells, the headlines would have been enormous. The second paragraph of the stories would have accused President Bush of holding up potentially life-saving cures. Notable scientists and bioethicists would have been touting the new dawn of regenerative medicine that was coming into being, despite Bush's resistance.

Instead, we hear the sound of silence--thanks to the news blockade that doesn't care much about stem-cell breakthroughs unless they come from destroyed embryos.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/886hpnnn.asp

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posted November 02, 2006 03:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The One thing Science must do is..

is tie in the Soul..that within..through Soul..the body is healthy..and aware..of
God OverSoul Source. ...

there would be no Need..for this..reSearch
if we searched OurSelves..for all the answers
are there... .

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posted November 02, 2006 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jhwop - that is an excellent article!!! I think it deserves it's own thread - hint hint... people need to understand the truth about stem cell research and how we have advanced using non-embyronic tissue.


Thank you for that article

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posted November 02, 2006 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps you're right Pid. Perhaps more people do need to see that it's not necessary to kill life to save life.

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