posted October 31, 2006 12:40 PM              

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I will go by what the majority of the Medical (specifically pediatric) associations say. -pidaua

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I learned that more and more physicians now realize that any potential benefits of circumcision are far outweighed by its risks and drawbacks. The American Academy of Pediatrics has stated that “Routine circumcision is not necessary”.

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/DOC/mposition.html

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No medical society in the world recommends routine infant circumcision. The American Academy of Pediatrics, which has made conflicting statements in the past, has just recently concluded that routine newborn infant circumcision cannot be recommended.

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/info/reiss1.html

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posted October 31, 2006 01:28 PM              

i would seriously suggest that the next time you slather all over jhwop's magnificent posts and impeccable sources, that you consider actually reading the posts and the sources presented. there is a very good chance that they may contain information to which you will have same reaction as ~

"I do not believe the crackpot BS..."

that you have toward the article from frontpage magazine.

also, "You can find all the articles you want from doctors that are against male circumcision because of their personal or radical beliefs..." these 'radical' beliefs happen to coincide precisely with the information in this highly conservative publication...

posted October 31, 2006 02:56 PM            

Merely chanting your same old worn out mantra "pidaua is mean, pidaua has no comprehension skills and can't read, pidaua is full of hate...blah blah blah" doesn't make it true. I know you, like other leftest wacknuts, believe if you say something enough it will come true. LOL.... but, I am sure the spaceship will be coming down soon to rescue you enlightened people from having to be subjected to us mindless NWO brainwashed folks. I do hope it happens soon!

posted October 31, 2006 03:32 PM              

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Oh please naiad, your wannabe attempt at being rational and intelligent is a waste of time.

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any re-read of this thread would very glaringly highlight you as the one severely lacking in your attempts at being rational and intelligent. omg....i can't believe how you can you say these things in all seriousness.

in case you didn't notice, my posts were a direct follow up on jwhop's position of the misogyny that can be found in religious leaders' statements in monotheistic religions.

the title of the article on circumcision -- "Ga. man accused of circumcising daughter"...is quite obviously about the crime of circumcising children. i believe that both girls and boys should be free from this tragic and barbaric practice.

that you don't doesn't make my opinion any less valid. it is you rather who attempts to hijack this thread with your continuous personal derision, lies and attacks on me.

posted October 31, 2006 03:49 PM            

Keep in mind you are stating that the Christian religion and jwhop feel the following towards women:

"Misogyny

–noun hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women. "

While human beings have perverted religion (interestly enough you always seem to focus only on the Protestant religion) religion in itself was not designed with a hatred or women in place.

Maybe if you could stop foaming at the mouth with hate towards Christianity, men and all things Conservative long enough to research a point in full you would stop looking like a fool.

posted October 31, 2006 03:51 PM            

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I WILL give jwhop compliments as his posts, unlike yours, have an actual thought process to back them up as well as real facts instead of your incessent cutting and pasting.

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posted October 31, 2006 03:55 PM            

"in case you didn't notice, my posts were a direct follow up on jwhop's position of the misogyny that can be found in religious leaders' statements in monotheistic religions."

posted October 31, 2006 03:55 PM            

Also as to the misogyny, she has made the allegation in earlier posts. That is, unless she is scurrying to edit them like she normally does LOL....

posted October 31, 2006 04:06 PM              

yes jwhop can speak for himself. i would go so far as to submit that he sometimes even reads what i post, lol.

just because you disagree with my opinion about circumcision does not validate turning this thread into an argument about whether or not i am allowed to express that opinion, lol.

you really should consider my advice to take a deep breath and read what people post here pidaua without uttering such thoughtless inanities, allegations and utter lies.

posted October 31, 2006 04:13 PM              

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Naiad,

I will not even entertain responding to you.

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oh dear, i was so hoping that the one rational thing you've said here would stand.

oh well.

posted October 31, 2006 07:37 PM              

Let me speak, I'm Australian, says sheik

October 31, 2006 12:00

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MELBOURNE'S Sheik Mohammed Omran, who has caused fresh controversy with comments that Muslim rapists are more harshly treated than non-Muslims, says he can say what he likes because he is an Australian.

In a sermon last Friday, the sheik questioned the consistency of sentences handed down to Muslim rapists compared with other sex offenders, such as "bikies" and "football stars", saying Muslims received harsher penalties.

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Sheik Omran said rapes committed by non-Muslims were treated more leniently than those committed by Muslims, referring to notorious gang-rapes in Sydney in 2000.

Today, Sheik Omran said he should be free to express his view, that the Muslim youths involved had first received excessive jail terms of up to "60 years" compared to less than 10-year terms for other sex crimes.

"In that case, in particular, I couldn't see that (consistency), otherwise, I should see the one who rape his own daughter, or the priest who rape a child under his care, or the teacher who have a sexual relation(ship) with his student, they are equally dealt with.

"And the journalists, and the radios and the stations and the Prime Minister are angry with them at the same level, but I don't see that, and that's what upset me."

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in a new speech posted on his website, he tells worshippers that rape is a major sin in Islam, punishable by death.

The sheikh says that widely differing jail terms are handed out for the crime of rape, depending on the cultural background of the offender.

"We don't support the crime, we don't support the one who does the crime, we don't support Sheikh Taj, we don't support anyone, defend criminals or crimes," he said.

"But at the same time we want justice for everyone - either every one goes for 60 years or everyone goes for three years."

Victoria's Sentencing Advisory Council has declined to comment, saying the courts collect no statistics on the racial background of offenders.

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posted November 01, 2006 05:43 PM              

“Jesus the man, incarnated upon Earth as a teacher
to stand as a symbol for all men and women
I cannot give you further details of his lost years
you must search within your heart
..for you know the answers”

“why were those precious years
lost to us?”

“lost because of those spiritual leaders
who were entrusted as the heirs of Peter
with the Keys to the Kingdom
yet, who removed the writings of his years
from the Holy Scriptures
believing themselves to be right in so doing.”

“how could such gross deception be right?”

“part of the answer lies in a great mystery
even now kept contained in the Vatican in Rome
and related in a most astonishing manner

to the mute..but still secretly singing
strange circle of rocks at Stonehenge, England
inter-twined with a never revealed discovery
nearly seven centuries ago..of ancient druidic writings
containing the awesome wondrous, yet terrifying mystery
of the English alphabet..and language
of words and numbers

at which time, certain members
of the religious Hierarchy did determine
among themselves..that these unexpectedly unearthed
secret formulas of the Truth of existence
and the trembling reality
of the lost powers of the gods and goddesses
now called Earthlings

constituted dangerous knowledge for the masses
and therefore, caused to have removed
all references from the Scriptures
which might, even through latent suggestion

light the flame of soul memory
within the sleeping hearts of all men and women
who then might recall their lost powers
and once again use them as a force for awful destruction
in this, the Church Fathers
believed themselves to be right

and the other part of the answer to your question
hidden for many centuries..is the negative motivation
by those who desired to retain the religious patriarchy
for the sake of the priesthood
and indeed, for the sake of the entire religious hierarchy
of even each Protestant denomination
who felt it to be, as did the Church of Rome
a fearsome abomination

for the ‘unclean’ woman to arise
......for the feminine ‘I’ of the individuality
to assume her rightful place – as equal in wisdom
to the masculine ‘O’ of the Overself
this even now reflected in the Church’s attitude toward women
more prevalent in the Vatican and in the Mormon strongholds

for these two pillars do hold many secrets
than do the more direct and uncomplicated Protestant churches

but the time is swift approaching

when all which has been so long buried
..when each earthquaking secret
shall be revealed into the Light of knowing

that long-awaited time is nigh
when each and every ancient lie..shall be exposed
and the Truth shall reign once more
in all of its shining innocence and glory, as before
for this has been ordained by RA Himself..”

posted November 02, 2006 07:55 PM              

she is forever in my heart and mind.

posted November 02, 2006 08:14 PM              

15-Year-Old Reports Rape After Leaving Church
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/AR2006110103175.html

Documentary is chilling look at priest's history of molesting
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061101/A_NEWS01/611010334

Priest admits fondling Foley, says it wasn't abuse
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/19/foley.priest/

posted November 02, 2006 11:20 PM            

OK, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and attempt to view you in the same light you apparently view yourself.

So, as a person who views herself as "reasonable" "rational" and "logical", what were you thinking when you slipped the above tagline into the dialogue? How is Bush reasonably, rationally or logically connected to an Evangelist who is accused of having a gay relationship?

Search as I might, I didn't see the name Bush anywhere on the site you linked to. Are you alleging this is the pastor of the church Bush attends? Are you alleging this is THE pastor Bush consults and whose opinion Bush gives extra weight to or any weight at all on religious matters. Are you alleging Bush has some "special" relationship with this pastor or his church?

Or, is this an illogical, irrational and unreasonable attempt to tie Bush to some "alleged" sexual corruption?

posted November 03, 2006 12:04 AM              

If you're interested in reading the allegations of the double life the President of the National Association of Evangelicals lives, theres more here:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/11/president-of-national-association-of.html

If you're interested in where Bush comes into this, here's a link:
http://www.tedhaggard.com/wsj.jsp

Haggard said he has "direct access" to Bush:

posted November 03, 2006 02:34 PM            

A Saudi court has sentenced a gang rape victim to 90 lashes of the whip because she was alone in a car with a man to whom she was not married.

The sentence was passed at the end of a trial in which the al- Qateef high criminal court convicted four Saudis convicted of the rape, sentencing them to prison terms and a total of 2,230 lashes.

The four, all married, were sentenced respectively to five years and 1,000 lashes, four years and 800 lashes, four years and 350 lashes, and one year and 80 lashes.

A fifth, married, man who was stated to have filmed the rape on his mobile phone still faces investigation. Two others alleged to have taken part in the rape evaded capture.

Saudi courts take marital status into account in sexual crimes. A male friend of the rape victim was also sentenced to 90 lashes for being alone with her in the car.

The court heard that the victim and her friend were followed by the assailants to their car, kidnapped and taken to a remote farm, where the raping occurred.

The victim was quoted by Okaz newspaper as saying she had expected harsher penalties for the assailants, especially as they had pleaded not guilty.