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Topic: Saddam Hussein to be hanged in 30 days
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Sweet Stars
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posted December 30, 2006 04:47 PM
 
You can call it mentally challenged if you want.I call it retarded. which is basically my problem. IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 30, 2006 04:49 PM
Sweet Stars being that i graduated from the best high school in NYC, no i was never diagnosed with down syndrome...though clearly your hate for people that have been further shows what a Nazi YOU are...  Considering the fact that you think that citizens of other nations participate in US elections says much about your knowledge...come to think of it the only person who EVER actually posts opposition PROOF is SGA...perhaps u two can learn something from her and stop plagerizing/making up data...u post a # show where u got it from...until then its ur own delusions...you two are so self righteous its sadIP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 30, 2006 04:51 PM
Look at Iraq and Afghanistan you say? Yes Bush ordered a WAR...a WAR isnt a WAR CRIME...not the same...invest in a dictionary perhaps...Saddam ordered SYSTEMATIC murder of civilians, and they found documents of him making such orders...if you find me documents where Bush made these orders ill kindly agree with you..since you cant or havnt or are too lazy too, do everyone a favor and quit while your ahead...if you dont have proof dont dare insult me because u look like an idiot...IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 30, 2006 04:52 PM
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I call it retarded. which is basically my problem.
Glad u admit to it IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted December 30, 2006 05:17 PM
Saddam killed for the same reasons Bush did.To oppress (and kill) one or more groups over another in order to gain or maintain control of their power. God it's really simple, why cant people see that? IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted December 30, 2006 05:48 PM
First this is just about all bullsh*t.The authorization for the war(s) came from the Congress of the United States...which is the way things work in America. Not that "accidental Americans" would actually know that..or much of anything else. We've already discussed the 600,000 dead Iraqi civilians...which is a number put forth by an antiwar group and challenged even by other antiwar groups..mainly because it also discredits their own efforts to be even loosely associated with brain dead loonies. Just as soon as one of you gets around to admitting that the vast majority of the civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were killed and are being killed by terrorists and those attempting to overthrow the duly elected governments of those countries...then perhaps we can have a reasonable discussion. Until then, you're just slinging BS...and you know it. The sign of sick minds and those who are both intellectually challenged and intellectually dishonest, is that they are the people who make asinine allegations they can't back up with any facts. For some reason, these people think their absurd allegations won't be challenged. Perhaps in the circles in which they run, they get high fives and score points when they spout drivel and lies. In reasonable circles, that doesn't fly. IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 30, 2006 06:20 PM
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Saddam killed for the same reasons Bush did.
Ur kidding right? First of all Bush didnt kill he declared war...Saddam did too but thats not what he was tried for. IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 30, 2006 06:29 PM
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Just as soon as one of you gets around to admitting that the vast majority of the civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were killed and are being killed by terrorists and those attempting to overthrow the duly elected governments of those countries...then perhaps we can have a reasonable discussion.
THANK you Jwhop! Note i said same thing about 3 times but they conviniently ignored me... quote:
The sign of sick minds and those who are both intellectually challenged and intellectually dishonest, is that they are the people who make asinine allegations they can't back up with any facts.
seriously...all they are doing is pointing fingers like toddlers...he did it...i say show me...they start screaming HE DID IT CUZ I SAID SO...yea ok... IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted December 31, 2006 03:36 AM
No it's not bullsh*tYour mercury in virgo has its drawbacks...you get lost in the semantics and have difficulty cutting through the bullsh*t you keep spinning in. Very good the Congress authorized the war...Bush Incorporated presented his skewed argument to the Repulican led Congress...Cheney saw the CIA daily to find a reason to go to Iraq...They actually provided false evidence to convince your dumb Congress leaders to go to war... Have you forgotten the reasons you went to Iraq? There was no connection between Saddam, Iraq and Al-Qaeda. No WMD were ever found. What has your war accomplished today? 3/4 of a trillion almost spent in Iraq to destroy Iraq. Now there is no clean running water, no sewage system, no electrical power, no proper education, no more free medical...even America didnt have the free med Iraqis had before the war. Americas destroyed it all...they shook the hornets nest. 700 000 Iraqis dead. And counting. Yes we've discussed that almost 700 000 Iraqis have died as a result of this American led war. This number was put out by world reknowned research groups from world reknowned universities MIT and John Hopkins University. Have you forgotten that they have more credibility than your beloved corrupt right wing politicians? Why dont you talk about the censorship your government applies to any news of civilian and soldier deaths on the media? You wont see the coffins of all the dead soldiers on the media, the coffins that now outnumber the coffins created by 9/11. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted December 31, 2006 04:13 AM
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We've already discussed the 600,000 dead Iraqi civilians...which is a number put forth by an antiwar group and challenged even by other antiwar groups..mainly because it also discredits their own efforts to be even loosely associated with brain dead loonies.Just as soon as one of you gets around to admitting that the vast majority of the civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were killed and are being killed by terrorists and those attempting to overthrow the duly elected governments of those countries...then perhaps we can have a reasonable discussion
What a great way to take the blame and the blood off of the American gov't's hands. Hey guys, I'm looking for a 6 letter word that starts with a "d". I know! Its called........denial. You see, once America gets off its "savior complex" and stops denying the fact that the invasion of Iraq was the offsetting factor for all the sectarian violence, then maybe we might actually be going somewhere. 
And you want to talking about making allegations you can't back up, you keep insisting that there was some big "connection" between Al Qaeda and Saddam.Hmmmm..... I still haven't seen any proof. The idea itself is absurd once you consider what Al Qaeda was about and what Saddam was about. It's like the idea of having a communist and a capitalist collaborate.......they go together like ketchup and mayonase.(note that ketchup and mayonase taste disgusting together)
Also, if either of you were referring to my allegations, I still stand by them. Yes Bush lied, about the above and the WMD. Most of them had been destroyed by the UN in the late 90's and the following air strike by the U.S. in '98 further diminished Iraq's weapon supply. There were none of the "stockpiles" in 2002 that Bush alleged Saddam to have. There was not even any evidence of a weapons program ever taking place after the early 90's.
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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 31, 2006 12:14 PM
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ush Incorporated presented his skewed argument to the Repulican led Congress...
Actually ill be honest with you he doesnt need to present a skewed argument since the congress is ruled by his own party. I also was wondering from Jwhop (i dont know) was there ever a declaration of war? and if so what was the date? Cuz one of the executive powers is to send troops anywhere for 90 days. quote:
hey actually provided false evidence to convince your dumb Congress leaders to go to war...
Actually thats what Jwhop said...CIA came up with evfidence which turned out to be untrue and Bush had to act on it. So if anything the fault lies with the CIA not Bush or Congress quote:
Have you forgotten the reasons you went to Iraq? There was no connection between Saddam, Iraq and Al-Qaeda. No WMD were ever found.
Considering the fact that im not pro war in Iraq i wont disagree with you there. The only reason I argue here is because it annoys me how mispalced people's anger is. And how tall the tale can get...no hes not a murderer no the troops arent a demon army, he just made and unfortunately foolish decision, one that I do not agree with. People go wayyyy overboard. quote:
no more free medical...even America didnt have the free med Iraqis had before the war. Americas destroyed it all..
Thats because Baathists are a socialist party...which I was trying to prove reeeally hard a few times....(not a bad thing just a matter of fact) quote:
es we've discussed that almost 700 000 Iraqis have died as a result of this American led war.
Ill settle with you on middle ground...as an INDIRECT result...because saying the Americans are responsible for these deaths is implying soldiers killed 700,000 Iraqis...they did not...most died due to suicide bombings WHICH happen because of warring factions (that were always warring) but got a change to take it full scale after Saddam's dethroning. quote:
You wont see the coffins of all the dead soldiers on the media, the coffins that now outnumber the coffins created by 9/11.
WHat would be the point of showing that? To upset the widows? To use their deaths for political gain? Its morbid... quote:
What a great to take the blame and the blood off of the American gov't's hands. Hey guys, I'm looking for a 6 letter word that starts with a "d". I know! Its called........denial.
So ur telling me US soldiers shot 700,000 people...and those car bombs they report every time were total flops (despite taking place in populated areas) and didnt hurt a soul...and Im in denial??? quote:
You see, once America gets off its "savior complex" and stops denying the fact that the invasion of Iraq was the offsetting factor for all the sectarian violence, then maybe we might actually be going somewhere
Haha i love how you change ur statement...actually thats exactly what i have been saying. But in those words and nothing else...OFFSETTING factor...it set off the violence that was already build up...it didnt by any means create anything that wasnt already there... quote:
And you want to talking about making allegations you can't back up, you keep insisting that there was some big "connection" between Al Qaeda and Saddam.
Who is this "you" that your talking to...cuz i personally said that there isnt a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda more than once... quote:
I still haven't seen any proof. The idea itself is absurd once you consider what Al Qaeda was about and what Saddam was about. It's like the idea of having a communist and a capitalist collaborate.......they go together like ketchup and mayonase.(note that ketchup and mayonase taste disgusting together)
Not to burst ur bubble but i know many people who love ketchup with mayo But other than that i already said Saddam isnt tied to Al Qaeda cuz hes anti theocracy...please read carefully next time quote:
s Bush lied, about the above and the WMD.
Not lied...was misinformed quote:
Most of them had been destroyed by the UN in the late 90's
Thats why Uzbekistan ( a growing Al Qaeda stronghold) hordes much of Soviet Union's cold war weaponry...real safe... IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted December 31, 2006 03:49 PM
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Haha i love how you change ur statement...actually thats exactly what i have been saying.
Ummm, what are you talking about??? Maybe I should re-phrase myself: The U.S. invasion of Iraq without a plan has caused the instability that is there now. End of story. quote:
Who is this "you" that your talking to...cuz i personally said that there isnt a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda more than once...
Actually, the part about Saddam and Al Qaeda was directed at JWhop.
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Not lied...was misinformed
Ok then, if that's your fancy way of dressing it up.  quote:
Thats why Uzbekistan ( a growing Al Qaeda stronghold) hordes much of Soviet Union's cold war weaponry...real safe...
Where the hell does Uzbekistan factor into this? I am talking about Iraq. Don't you remember? You make a left at Iran and keep going.....you can't miss it.  The U.N went there and destroyed most of the WMD.
**Oh and P.S: I know many people like myself who think that ketchup and mayonnase together taste gross. 
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Xodian
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posted December 31, 2006 04:04 PM
It all comes down to the future of the country. If Iraq is to become a sstabilized nation without the threat of civil war, then Saddam's rule will be seen for what it was; a brutal dictatorship clinging to power as much as possible. However, if the country continues to strife with the same turmoil as it is facing now, then his rule may be seen as benifitial since it brought order (even though it was brutal.)IP: Logged |
Sweet Stars
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posted January 01, 2007 03:41 AM
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OMG Sweet Stars! Im sorry to hear that. My bf actually knows someone who hung themselves, it is a rather harsh way to die.
When a person has enough guts to hang themselves, well it just shows that they were really fed up with life. he had a very rough childhood.
There was a dictator in the Dominican Republic named Trujillo. Don't remember the years and to lazy to look it up.
He killed him. My grandfather.
Own wife betrayed him.
(Father's mother)
Long story. Family had his tongue mailed to him by government in envelope.
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Dulce Luna
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posted January 01, 2007 12:21 PM
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There was a dictator in the Dominican Republic named Trujillo. Don't remember the years and to lazy to look it up.
Ooooo, I think I've heard of him from my Dominican friends and some Hatians. He was the one who wanted to wipe away the blacks in the DR and Haiti...am I correct?
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Sweet Stars
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posted January 01, 2007 02:02 PM
Yup. My slutty grandmother was having an affair with one of his soldiers.She rarely cared about her kids either. She was a very white Puerto Rican and her husband, my grandftaher was a very black Dominican.
She told on him.
They came to get him while he was holding his 7 week old son in his arms. They never saw him again. But yes that was his goal. Basically, another Nazi. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted January 01, 2007 03:20 PM
Wow, how awful and sad SS...just horrible. 
I hope your father is resting in peace now 
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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted January 01, 2007 03:35 PM
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The U.S. invasion of Iraq without a plan has caused the instability that is there now. End of story.
OKay then we agree. I dont deny this by a mile... quote:
Where the hell does Uzbekistan factor into this? I am talking about Iraq. Don't you remember? You make a left at Iran and keep going.....you can't miss it. The U.N went there and destroyed most of the WMD.
No no no you misunderstood me sorry...my point was that UN destoying anything is only so accurate as they want it to be. If someone wants to hide something it will be hidden. Plus despite destroying WMD they could have easily gotte or bought new ones via Soviet connections. quote:
Oh and P.S: I know many people like myself who think that ketchup and mayonnase together taste gross.
Actually i do too myself i just know a lot who love it. Hehe' quote:
If Iraq is to become a sstabilized nation without the threat of civil war, then Saddam's rule will be seen for what it was; a brutal dictatorship clinging to power as much as possible. However, if the country continues to strife with the same turmoil as it is facing now, then his rule may be seen as benifitial since it brought order (even though it was brutal.)
I love it...Xodian, you put things in words way better than I can. I was implying that and stating that and ugh didnt come out that precisly. Thats in fact what i mean IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted January 01, 2007 05:38 PM
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Plus despite destroying WMD they could have easily gotte or bought new ones via Soviet connections.
I thought that was only the case with all of the Soviet's former territories (Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakstan, etc.) where the Russians irresponsibly just "left" stockpiles of weapons behind.
I mean I do get what you mean, but the thing is that they never found any such stockpiles. Yes it kind of baffles me, knowing the kind of person Saddam was, but there were never any found the second time the U.N inspectors were there. There is a reason this war was not approved by the U.N. And because the U.S. has wasted time in Iraq, Afghanistan is slowly unraveling as well whether or not anyone wants to admit that. And truthfully, I don't believe anyone should be in possesion of WMD....including the U.S. Why would anyone possess them if they believed that they're such a great danger to the world and were not gonna use them. quote:
Actually i do too myself i just know a lot who love it. Hehe'
LOL
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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted January 01, 2007 06:04 PM
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I thought that was only the case with all of the Soviet's former territories (Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakstan, etc.) where the Russians irresponsibly just "left" stockpiles of weapons behind.
Yea thats what i said re: Uzbekistan. But mostly Russia sells weapons both legally and illegally to a lot of people. quote:
. There is a reason this war was not approved by the U.N. And because the U.S. has wasted time in Iraq, Afghanistan is slowly unraveling as well whether or not anyone wants to admit that.
Agree with you there IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted January 01, 2007 11:38 PM
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But mostly Russia sells weapons both legally and illegally to a lot of people.
This is another gov't I find to be very "fishy". For instance, they claim to want N.Korea to get rid of their Nuclear program...they probably gave them the weapons in the first place 
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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted January 01, 2007 11:47 PM
Yea dont get me started on Russian government lol, they are more than just fishy IP: Logged |
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