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Xodian
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posted February 08, 2007 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Surprising results. See what I mean when I say that U.S. isn't a country of haters? People seriously need to look at their prespectives.

But still... We Canadians rock! Ca-Na-Da! Ca-Na-Da!

Canadians object least to a Muslim neighbour

But 17% surveyed would dislike a gay person next door

Randy Boswell, National Post
Published: Thursday, February 08, 2007

Source: http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=8f3f1110-fc7c-488c-b023-c55b12e7010f&k=19497&p=2

Canadians are least likely among citizens of 23 Western countries to have bigoted attitudes toward Muslims, according to a new international study that measured the level of "Islamophobia" in each nation.

The survey asked respondents whether they would object to having certain kinds of people as neighbours. Only 6.5% said they would not want to live next door to a Muslim, the lowest of any of the nations surveyed. However, the survey found that more Canadians would object to having a homosexual neighbour than would object to a Muslim one.

Homosexuals were more likely than any other group -- in Canada and nearly every other country -- to be shunned by a potential neighbour. Just over 17% of Canadians said they would not want a gay person living next door.

In Western nations, the overall percentage who objected to a homosexual neighbour was 19.6%, with Italy (28.7%) and Sweden (6%) at the opposite ends of the range.

"The question of homosexuality carries with it the moralistic connotations," said Wsevolod Isajiw, a University of Toronto sociology professor emeritus. "Nobody considers it a sin to be Muslim."

The survey also found that Americans were more tolerant of Muslims than most Western countries. In the United States, 10.9% of people did not want a Muslim next door compared with an overall percentage of 14.5% in western countries with the highest percentage being in Greece at 20.9%.

This comes as no surprise to experts, who say experience builds tolerance.

"Both Canada and the United States have a long history of experience with other cultures," said Mr. Isajiw, a prior holder of the Robert F. Harney chair in ethnic, immigration and pluralism studies. By comparison, European countries' exposure to massive floods of immigration is relatively new, said Mr. Isajiw, while Canada, with its official multicuturalism policy, and the United States, with what he termed "practical multiculturalism", have achieved a broader degree of acceptance.

The fierce nationalism fostered within many European countries can breed intolerance, the academic said.

Despite the West's "reputation for liberalism, there can be little doubt that, in the past decade or so in western countries, there is an increasing awareness of, and a hardening of attitudes towards, people who are 'different,'" argue the study's coauthors, economists Vani Borooah of the University of Ulster in Northern Ireland and John Mangan of the University of Queensland in Australia.

"Arguments about the Muslim veil in Britain, and the headscarf in France, are part of a wider debate ... about the erosion of national identity through the steady drip of special demands predicated on tolerance for cultural diversity," the authors state in the paper titled Love Thy Neighbour: How Much Bigotry Is There In Western Countries? to be published in the journal Kyklos, International Review for Social Sciences.

More than 32,000 respondents from 19 European countries, plus Canada, the U.S., Australia and New Zealand, were asked the question: "Would you like to have a person from this group as your neighbour?"

The groups were Muslim, homosexual, Jew, "of a different race" and immigrant of foreign worker.

Of the nearly 2,000 people surveyed in Canada -- which has recently drawn international attention for the CBC's airing of the prejudice-piercing comedy Little Mosque on the Prairie -- only 6.5% said they would not like to live beside a Muslim.

Respondents in Greece (20.9%), Belgium (19.8%), Norway (19.3%) and Finland (18.9%) were most likely to answer "No" to the question.

Results in Britain and the U.S. were 14.1% and 10.9% respectively, and the average percentage of negative responses across all western countries was 14.5%.

Fewer than 5% of respondents from Canada said they wouldn't want to have a neighbour who is Jewish, an immigrant or of a different race.

Salma Siddiqui, an official with the Toronto-based Muslim Canadian Congress, told CanWest News Service yesterday that the survey results reflect the fact that "Canada is a very tolerant nation.

"We are lucky to be living in a country that recognizes all human rights," she said. CanWest News Service, with files from Natalie Alcoba, National Post.

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Dulce Luna
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posted February 08, 2007 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well yeah, the U.S. isn't a country full of haters but I'm sure you know that every group is full of good guys and A-holes. I remember first comming here as a youngin and yes, I also remember experiencing xenophobic crap from others. And before anyone accuses me of being racist I will say that the "others" happened to be African-American(I had lived in a neighborhood with alot of them at the time). Now I don't condemn all of them but I do begrudglingly remember some of them casting me as an outsider.

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pidaua
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posted February 08, 2007 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Racism happens in EVERY country and within EVERY race. Some African Americans hate Whites and there are Whites that hate Hispanics and Hispanics that hate both groups.

I grew up in Southern California where we have a very diverse county- yet where I grew up it was mostly white, some hispanic and mostly upper middle to upper class. Yet bigoted attitudes and racism existed in all classes and all races.

When attended college in the Liberal Land of Portland, OR I had a few idiots tell me that I would feel more at home at the reservation in Yakima that at our college. A couple months later I was told to go back to Mexico because they were tired of paying for my school (it was a private Lutheran University and I didn't receive scholarships based on race).

People can be close-minded and bigoted. I saw an incredible example of reverse (as if there is such a thing) racism in Maryland where many African Americans hate whites. There was deep segregation at our Biotech company brought about by the AA's not wanting to socialize at all with the others.

There were a few hispanics at the company that started a rumor that I got my position in the professional department (I was a research associate) because of my race. They had no idea about my credentials they just hated that I had excelled and landed an great job based on my education and experience.

People need to get a grip and stop holding the few idiots against the entire country.

They also need to realize that if racism exists HERE it exists EVERYWHERE.

I have seen people from other countries and backgrounds come to this site with the only purpose of bashing the US and Canada any chance they get. Any slight is turned into a hatred of all of us and we are accused of being xenophobic.

Then again, maybe people are moving into certain areas of the country that are known for having less tolerance than others. God knows I would never move to the deep South. ewwwwwwww.

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Dulce Luna
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posted February 08, 2007 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, if that post was directed at me did you miss where I said every group has its good guys and bad ones? Or the part where I said, I know all of them were not bad. That was what I was stressing was that every group is a collection of good guys and bad guys....I'm aware that Xenophobism exists in other places besides the U.S., I'm not stupid. I was talking from experience, and I guess I should also take into consideration that because of cultural differences, Africans and African Americans don't get along (and for same reason, some Hispanics and African Americans don't get along as seen out in LA).

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posted February 08, 2007 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sigh*

It's true Pid....racism abounds everywhere. Too bad those people couldn't be held accountable for those comments.

The 17% pretty much seems accurate, I find about 1/5 people is homophobic. And people wonder why I have a problem with organized religion.

It's interesting that straight people are so unaware of homosexuality that I've heard the most apalling comments said right to me. One girl once asked me, "do you think gays are born that way?" I replied, "I"m not sure." She said, "I just think they're fudge packers." WOW. Another person once said to me, "Aids is punishment for gay peoples actions." Note that this was a black guy, a member of the highest rising rate of aids in this country. Not to mention his ancestors and relatives in Africa.

I once had an old friend from grade school, after finding out I was gay, say "You should be shot because you're gay." After I brought this up with my "best" friend, he said I was blowing it out of proportion. They are both right-wing, but that's beside the point. I try to forgive them, they dont' understand what its like to be persecuted for the way they were born.

People are just plain idiotic sometimes. The fact that many people would want to kill me just because of the way I was born makes no sense to me. But then again, it probably made no sense to the Jews during the holocaust either.

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Dulce Luna
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posted February 08, 2007 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those on the far right creep me out...especially the ones from the famous "Bible Belt".

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pidaua
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posted February 08, 2007 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BR said "person once said to me, "Aids is punishment for gay peoples actions." "


UGH!!! That TOTALLY ****** me OFF!!!! I don't understand why people can't accept people for who they are. I understand we all have different values and beliefs, but mine are no better than someone elses UNLESS that person constantly has to put others down because of their race, gender or sexual orientation in order to feel validated.


Every time I hear crap like what that person said to you it makes me seriously sick. I think of my friends out here and people my mother works with (she is a hairdresser and has been since I was born in Laguna) and it hurts to know that they are hated.

What is also bothersome is how anyone from a race, gender or orientation that has been "held down and mistreated" can then apply that same hatred towards others.

I look at them like WHAT???? How dare you say that because you are African American you are entitled to hate all Hispanics for trying to bid on minority jobs (LOL.. this actually happened in MD and the NAACP tried to get the government to categorize Hispanic owned companies as NON-Minority).

BLECH.. how does that crap happen?

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted February 08, 2007 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While that is indeed a wonderful fact to hear (about the low prejudice) I have to wonder whether they took into consideration that Canada is one of the few western countries that havn't suffered terrorist attacks. Lets be honest racism against Muslims in the U.S. was not so prevalent before September 11, and then the London and Spain attacks, as well as French riots quite possibly worsened the conditions in those country. We can count for the murder of Theo Van Gogh in Netherlands too. I actually saw a special on some channal about the maltreatement of Muslims in Netherlands which comes as a shock since its such a free country.

As sad as it is too see I think there definately will be a correlation between the amount of prejudice in a country and its close encounters with terrorist attacks.

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The survey also found that Americans were more tolerant of Muslims than most Western countries

I find that a very interesting fact. I actually in high school had a Social Science research class, and my teacher (as well as the school) was very hard core so we had to do a full fledged project the way they publish in science journals. Mine dealt with racism and nationality and I found that Europeans exhibited signs of prejudice far more than Americans did. So that could account for it as well.

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highest percentage being in Greece at 20.9%.

I would attribute that to history and to still existant conflict with Turkey. I would assume former Yugoslavia was pretty up there too.

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Arguments about the Muslim veil in Britain, and the headscarf in France, are part of a wider debate ... about the erosion of national identity through the steady drip of special demands predicated on tolerance for cultural diversity," the authors state in the paper titled Love Thy Neighbour: How Much Bigotry Is There In Western Countries?

Im sorry but I do not think banning head scarves (they actually banned ALL religious symbols including crosses and yarmulkes) in public schools is bigotry at all. That is the law of the land and just like i stated in the Saudi thread, no one should enter another country trying to change its customs. If French custom is no religious symbols in schools then why should anyone complain...French custom is fashion...and yet a French woman cant wear a miniskirt in an Iranian school...what if they rioted over that...everything is good in moderation


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