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posted February 17, 2007 06:55 PM            

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Here's the lyrics to the Dixie Chicks song, "not ready to make nice," a response to the attacks they recieved after criticizing our hallowed President. I love the Dixie Chicks, they're from conservative Texas, have a country western sound, yet stand up for what they believe in even though it goes against many of their fan bases beliefs. To me, that's courage.

Forgive, sounds good.
Forget, I'm not sure I could.
They say time heals everything,
But I'm still waiting

I'm through, with doubt,
There's nothing left for me to figure out,
I've paid a price, and i'll keep paying

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should

I know you said
Why can't you just get over it,
It turned my whole world around
and i kind of like it

I made by bed, and I sleep like a baby,
With no regrets and I don't mind saying,
It's a sad sad story
That a mother will teach her daughter
that she ought to hate a perfect stranger.
And how in the world
Can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they'd write me a letter
Saying that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should

Forgive, sounds good.
Forget, I'm not sure I could.
They say time heals everything,
But I'm still waiting

Dixie Chicks

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posted February 18, 2007 02:34 PM            

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I love that song. Im not much into country but i love love love that song.

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posted February 18, 2007 02:39 PM              

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I think the song is very negative, and seems to show they really don't care...

I don't know how they won all those awards???

bashing the President seems to be a popular thing to do!

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posted February 18, 2007 07:07 PM            

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Hmm i like the song not because it bashes the president but because I can apply the words to my own life, which is what i usually do with music

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posted February 18, 2007 07:38 PM            

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The song clearly does not bash the president. It doesn't say anything about him.

Exactly bud, the song is about not backing down when you have a cause that you believe in, something that certain people, especially softer pisces/libran types need to be reminded of.

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posted February 18, 2007 07:44 PM            

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I think the song is very negative, and seems to show they really don't care...
I don't know how they won all those awards???

bashing the President seems to be a popular thing to do!

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Actually, they became very unpopular within their own community for speaking out against the President. This song is not about bashing the President, its about not apologizing for what they believe in.....even though they are "in" again with the Country Music Community. I'm not into Country Music but I applaud them for "not making nice" because they shouldn't have to.

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posted February 18, 2007 08:51 PM              

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Obviously I know this song
doesn't bash the President

A mother will teach
her daughter to hate
a perfect stranger???

seems wrong to me, is all. ...

makes things seem hopeless, if you ask me... .

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posted February 19, 2007 01:49 AM            

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Exactly DL, you have to be very brave indeed to say something that will alienate your fan base.

Anyone that places more importance on their values than on money is OK in my book.

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posted February 19, 2007 03:07 AM            

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I recently read about the circumstance of the original comment, and it wasn't intended as a major political statement. It was just an offhand joke/remark that became this huge thing.

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posted February 19, 2007 07:54 PM              

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I like Dixie Chicks...theyre one of the only "country" music groups Id listen to.

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posted February 20, 2007 02:23 PM            

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A mother will teach
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a perfect stranger???

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I don't think you read the lyrics otherwise you would've known the context in which those words were meant. They said that it was sad that a mother would teach her daughter to hate a perfect stranger....which happens by the way (prejudiced attitudes and all).

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posted February 20, 2007 03:07 PM              

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yes, it's sad, it's negative, and it projects negativity...

when we have the choice to see the glad, the positive, and project positivity...

Free Wi11 choice. ...

I've taught my daughters to LOve all equally...

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posted February 21, 2007 12:36 PM              

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I don't blame Nathalie for being "mad as hell"....Her life was threatened for stating a dislike for her president. Sounds like something out of Castro's Cuba, not the United States of America. Well, at least the president and his people didn't respond to her comments, so I guess America isn't too far gone. Just some of it's people are.

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posted February 23, 2007 06:31 PM            

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Ha, this would be so much more impressive if the President's approval ratings weren't so low.

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posted February 24, 2007 03:46 AM            

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LOL.

True, Johnny.

Keep in mind though, the comments were made a few years ag.

Remember when everyone had American flags flying off their cars? God that was scary and weird. Nationalism is scary.

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posted February 24, 2007 04:58 AM            

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Yeah. Just another tool to control the masses, huh?

Well, thank God Bush is a Christian, that's all I have to say.

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posted February 24, 2007 02:37 PM            

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Such a good Christian!

Too bad he can't follow the sixth commandment, thou shall not kill.

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posted February 24, 2007 08:13 PM            

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(Was being sarcastic.)

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posted February 24, 2007 08:29 PM            

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I realized

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posted February 24, 2007 10:47 PM            

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Too bad he can't follow the sixth commandment, thou shall not kill.

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And may I ask who did he kill?

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Nationalism is scary.

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We all fear what we don't understand

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posted February 25, 2007 10:52 AM            

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And may I ask who did he kill?

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The death toll of the Iraqis is somewhere in the thousands I believe.

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posted February 25, 2007 05:58 PM            

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Yes but he didn't commit murder which is what the commandment refers to. Much of the Bible's prophets have been leaders and warriors and yet they are not considered murderers. To kill in battle is not against any commandment...and Bush is not in Iraq either way so he himself has killed no one. You cannot be punished for sins you did not commit.

I am okay with people saying the war is wrong and the death toll is high, but calling someone a murderer when they aren't is nothing more than biased labeling.

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posted February 25, 2007 06:34 PM            

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I know it's inconvenient to talk about the Iraqi civilians terrorists and the so called insurgents have deliberately killed...which is most of those who have been killed; but it would be refreshing if just once anyone who constantly accuses the US or Bush of killing Iraqis displayed the intellectual honesty to admit it.

Those who are fighting against the legitimate government of Iraq, the government elected by Iraqis are not innocent civilians. They are terrorists...because they deliberately target civilians and they are combatants.

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posted February 26, 2007 02:03 PM            

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To kill in battle is not against any commandment.

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I think you're wrong on that one. It's a very simply stated commandment that was put forth without condition.

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I am okay with people saying the war is wrong and the death toll is high, but calling someone a murderer when they aren't is nothing more than biased labeling.

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No, biased labeling is what Jwhop does with people he considers to be traitors. Labeling someone a murderer for initiating a war is something that is quite universally common.

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posted February 26, 2007 02:31 PM            

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As I have said before and as biblical scholars have attested to for many years acoustic, the 6th Commandment does not speak to killing per se but to MURDER...the deliberate killing of those innocent of any wrong doing. We've had this discussion before acoustic. Perhaps you'll get it this time.

"However, like English, Hebrew, the language in which most of the Old Testament was written, uses different words for intentional vs. unintentional killing. The verse translated "Thou shalt not kill" in the KJV translation, is translated "You shall not murder"2 in modern translations - because these translations represents the real meaning of the Hebrew text. The Bible in Basic English translates the phrase, "Do not put anyone to death without cause."2 The Hebrew word used here is ratsach,3 which nearly always refers to intentional killing without cause (unless indicated otherwise by context). Hebrew law recognized accidental killing as not punishable. In fact, specific cities were designated as "cities of refuge," so that an unintentional killer could flee to escape retribution.4 The Hebrew word for "kill" in this instance is not ratsach, but nakah, which can refer to either premeditated or unintentional killing, depending upon context.5 Other Hebrew words also can refer to killing.6-8 The punishment for murder was the death sentence.9 However, to be convicted, there needed to be at least two eyewitnesses.10"
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/notkill.html

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