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jwhop
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posted June 23, 2007 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and look, this idiot is flashing a Mao bag. Some remember Mao as the murderous communist tyrant who caused the murder of about 100,000,000 Chinese citizens. Others had or have their heads up their as$es and aren't capable of remembering what they had for breakfast.

At least some Peruvians are wide awake.

This Hollywood moron has the intellectual capacity of a gnat.

Cameron's bag raises a few eyebrows
Jun 23 04:33 AM US/Eastern



Actress Cameron Diaz appears to have committed a major fashion crime in Peru.

The voice of Princess Fiona in the animated Shrek films may have inadvertently offended Peruvians.

They suffered decades of violence from a Maoist guerrilla insurgency by touring there on Friday with a bag emblazoned with one of Mao Zedong's favourite political slogans.

While she explored the Inca city of Machu Picchu high in Peru's Andes, Diaz wore over her shoulder an olive green messenger bag emblazoned with a red star and the words 'Serve the People' printed in Chinese on the flap, perhaps Chinese Communist leader Mao's most famous political slogan.

While the bags are marketed as trendy fashion accessories in some world capitals, the phrase has particular resonance in Peru.

The Maoist Shining Path insurgency took Peru to the edge of chaos in the 1980s and early 1990s with a campaign of massacres, assassinations and bombings.

Nearly 70,000 people were killed during the insurgency.

A prominent Peruvian human rights activist said the star of There's Something About Mary should have been a little more aware of local sensitivities when picking her accessories.

"It alludes to a concept that did so much damage to Peru, that brought about so many victims," said Pablo Rojas about the bag's slogan.

"I don't think she should have used that bag where the followers of that ideology" did so much damage.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=paDiazsat08diazbag&show_article=1

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SattvicMoon
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posted June 23, 2007 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesn't the same rule apply to christian cross too? or the various other such "symbols?

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posted June 23, 2007 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No...at least not until you find so called Christians running around murdering millions of people people who simply disagree with them.

When that happens...get back to me.

Until then, continue to defend the indefensible.

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posted June 23, 2007 01:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember - the inquisitions! (I got back to you now)

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posted June 23, 2007 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SattvicMoon,

Symbolism is symbolism,yes?

The article takes it from that distanced statement and makes it one of empathy and outrage:

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The Maoist Shining Path insurgency took Peru to the edge of chaos in the 1980s and early 1990s with a campaign of massacres, assassinations and bombings.
Nearly 70,000 people were killed during the insurgency

How many living Peruvians remember seeing their loved ones slaughtered in the Inquisitions?

Now how many living Peruvians do you suppose watched their loved ones slaughtered by Maoist Shining Path insurgency?

Therein lies the difference (in this specific instance)


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posted June 23, 2007 09:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do understand that Juniper, but closing the eyes doesn't make the day night, does it?

Anyways, all said and done, I am an anti-communist myself, and communism is the bane of today's world, creating insurgencies, and extremists world over for their selfish interests.


And for some celebrities, "being different" is the in thing, but most of them are either down right stupid, or they are ignorant of the common life and man.

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posted June 23, 2007 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cameran Diaz is an idiot. Pure and Simple.

Sattvic.. What she did was offensive, it is just AS offensive as someone wearing a Hitler T-shirt while visiting Auschwitz.

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posted June 23, 2007 11:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sattvic.. What she did was offensive, it is just AS offensive as someone wearing a Hitler T-shirt while visiting Auschwitz.

Yes, very much I agree, no second opinions here!

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lalalinda
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posted June 24, 2007 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're posting again
oh be still my heart
I'm so so happy you're here

Jwhop

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posted June 24, 2007 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY COOL BAG I'D TOTALLY WEAR ONE I WANNA BE JUST LIKE CAMERON DIAZ

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posted June 25, 2007 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juniperb,

A more appropriate response regarding Sattvic's posts would have been to point out that Christian religious symbols are often considered symbols of love and hope and at worst harmless and benign in this day in age.

Otherwise, I would agree that the symbols of Christianity are now far removed from context in terms of the Inquisition while Maoist Shining Path insurgency is still a recent memory.
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Meanwhile, as anyone would guess to be the case, we find that her wearing it was completely unintentional and a result of ignorance of the local history.

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"I sincerely apologize to anyone I may have inadvertently offended. The bag was a purchase I made as a tourist in China and I did not realize the potentially hurtful nature of the slogan printed on it," Diaz said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press.

On Friday, one prominent Peruvian human rights activist said Diaz should have been a little more aware of local sensitivities when picking her accessories.

In Sunday's statement, the star of "There's Something About Mary" said the purpose of her visit was to participate in a television show that celebrates Peru's culture. The actress has been in Peru as part of "4 REAL," a Canadian TV production that focuses on young community leaders around the world.

"I'm sorry for any people's pain and suffering and it was certainly never my intention to reopen what I now know is a painful wound in this country's history," she said.

Diaz also spoke of Peruvians' beauty and warmth and said she wished "for their continued healing."



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posted June 25, 2007 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG,
Are you attempting to teach me about religious symbolism or tell me I am inappropriate because I don`t think and speak like you do?


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posted June 25, 2007 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you attempting to teach me about religious symbolism or tell me I am inappropriate because I don`t think and speak like you do?

Ummm, no. He's actually agreeing with you.*mutters to self about the paranoia around here*

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posted June 25, 2007 09:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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*mutters to self about the paranoia around here*

I, for once, thought I was paranoid feeling the same way Dulce! Good to know others feel that way too!

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posted June 25, 2007 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A boogyman around every corner ey

I have confidence AG will take the post, based on the history of our conversations, in the humorous vein it was intended.

If not, just lable me paranoid

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posted June 25, 2007 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm SattvicMoon:

Did you mean the Medieval Inquisition of 1184?

The Spanish Inquisition of 1480? OR

The Roman Inquisition of 1542?

Either way, you got back to me 550 to 833 years late.

Glad we agree about Hollywood morons...of which Cameron Diaz is only one of the crowd.

Right on Juni, the Shining Path communists leave a bitter taste in most Peruvians mouths and a foul stench in their nostrils.

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Dulce Luna
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posted June 25, 2007 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I, for once, thought I was paranoid feeling the same way Dulce! Good to know others feel that way too!

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posted June 25, 2007 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I supposed to post something?

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posted June 25, 2007 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop,

You could literally choose any of those Inquisitions to make Sattvic's point. They were all done under a Christian guise.

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posted June 26, 2007 12:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Either way, you got back to me 550 to 833 years late.

That means you are on the wrong side of things.

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posted June 26, 2007 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you know who is on the wrong side?

None of you rely, on the answers from God..
just what you read, so, who are you?

when you people, actually come to know God,
than come and talk of MOther and Father God..

as long as you work from your ego, your agenda, and not for the good of ALL...

I don't won't to hear it!

a heart for ALL, I practice no favortism!

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How do you know who is on the wrong side?

That is why we have something called "rational thoughts".

That which creates problems, pain, anguish for the masses belongs to the wrong side. That which creates peaceful co-existence, IS the right side.

War against terrorism is a good thing, war against the people (in Iraq, in Afghanistan, elsewhere), is the wrong side. And just because some events are not "fresh" in some people's memory, doesn't make it right either.

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posted June 26, 2007 01:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, all of it counts, from the beginning of this time, and then some..all is connected..
each person chose the life they are living, and the purpose of it..
each personal role, was chosen, each doing the divine thing, that happened from the Universal God Laws, that are immutable..
think about the big picture, if you yourSelf cannot be complete ggodness, then how do you expect our world to be, for we are all connected, and this is what we created..
Mind Over Matter,
Blood and Spatter
NOT!

we made what today is, change yourself, and you change the future

ALL for ONE, and ONE for ALL. ...

get it?
Live it!

Let's bring

Heaven on Earth

Pax et Bonum

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Dulce Luna
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posted June 26, 2007 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I agree with the both of you that EVERYTHING counts. Just because some things happened in the distant past doesn't mean they should be excused. Because sometimes those events from the distant past have had far-reaching consequences that some people are still dealing with today.

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jwhop
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posted June 26, 2007 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry all, that won't fly. Perhaps you've overlooked the thrust of what I actually said....in your haste to excuse the Hollywood moron.

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No...at least not until you find (present tense)...so called Christians running around murdering millions of people people who simply disagree with them.
When that happens...get back to me.

So, name those so called Christians who ARE...in the present... running around murdering millions of people who simply disagree with them.

The F-ing communists have done so in the 20th Century...and they still are doing so in the present, yet the Hollywood morons are oblivious to both the facts and the symbology of displaying communist symbols.

Some here as well it seems.

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