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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted November 26, 2007 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 27, 2007 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, but I fail to see the relevance of these posts concerning the IRS. Could you please explain as to why these threads are posted here in a forum dedicated to spirituality and God? Is it about conspiracies of the like Linda mentioned? In any case, I'm not sure here is where it's at, maybe you want to look at Global Unity?

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted November 27, 2007 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean to offend Sesame... I'm new to the forum and when I saw "philosophy" I posted here... I won't repost...

This article was to only educate people that this information could be real.. and if it's real.. like any new philosophy .. might want to be considered... that's all...

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posted November 29, 2007 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, this is why I couldn't find this thread at the original forum (Universal codes) It was posted there first right?

How much validity does this have, have you done the homework?

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted November 29, 2007 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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deleted? why?

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted November 30, 2007 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Senate Bill 1959 Represents the Greatest Loss of Personal Freedom to Date

Bill to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, Books and Free Speech Across America

by: Mike Adams
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/senate1959bill28nov07.shtml
November 28, 2007

Senate Bill 1959 to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, Books and Free Speech Across America (Nov. 28, 2007)

http://www.newstarget.com/022308.html

The end of Free Speech in America has arrived at our doorstep. It's a new law called the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, and it is worded in a clever way that could allow the U.S. government to arrest and incarcerate any individual who speaks out against the Bush Administration, the war on Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security or any government agency (including the FDA). The law has already passed the House on a traitorous vote of 405 to 6, and it is now being considered in the Senate where a vote is imminent. All over the internet, intelligent people who care about freedom are speaking out against this extremely dangerous law: Philip Giraldi at the Huffington Post, Declan McCullagh at CNET's News.com, Kathryn Smith at OpEdNews.com, and of course Alex Jones at PrisonPlanet.com

This bill is the beginning of the end of Free Speech in America. If it passes, all the information sources you know and trust could be shut down and their authors imprisoned. NewsTarget could be taken offline and I could be arrested as a "terrorist." Jeff Rense at www.Rense.com could be labeled a "terrorist" and arrested. Byron Richards, Len Horowitz, Paul Craig Roberts, Greg Palast, Ron Paul and even Al Gore could all be arrested, silenced and incarcerated. This is not an exaggeration. It is a literal reading of the law, which you can check yourself here: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1955_rfs.xml

The bill states:

‘...ideologically based violence’ means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual’s political, religious, or social beliefs...

Note that this means the "planned use of force to promote a political or social belief" would be considered an act of terrorism. This all hinges on the definition of "force," of course. Based on the loose use of logic in Washington these days, and the slippery interpretation of the meaning of words, "force" could mean:

• A grassroots campaign to barrage Congress with faxes
• A non-violent street protest
• A letter-writing campaign that deluges the Senate with too much mail
• A sit-in protest that blocks access to a business or organization
• A grassroots e-mail campaign that overloads the e-mail servers of any government department or agency

You get the idea. "Force" could be defined as practically anything. And since the "planned use of force" would be considered a criminal act of terrorism, anyone who simply thinks about a grassroots action campaign would be engaged in terrorist acts.

If you stopped someone on the street and handed them a Bible, for example, this could be considered an act of terrorism ("...use of force to promote the individual's religious beliefs...")

If you sent a barrage of angry letters to Washington about global warming and the destruction of the environment by the U.S. military, this could also be considered an act of terrorism ("...to promote the individual's political beliefs...")

If you believe in same-sex marriage and you wrote a letter threatning a sit-in protest in front of your state's capitol building, this could also be considered an act of terrorism, even if you never carried it out! ("...planned use of force to promote a social belief...")

The United States is on the fast track to fascism, and the Congress is working right alongside this nation's traitorous leaders to criminalize any thoughts, words or speeches that disagree with current government policies regarding war, terrorism, domestic surveillance and civil liberties. Simply speaking out against the war on Iraq could soon be labeled a crime. Merely thinking thoughts against the war on Iraq could be considered a criminal act.

Must-see video: Naomi Wolf's lecture on 10 steps to fascism
There's a video lecture you simply MUST watch. It's by Naomi Wolf, author of The End of America. She covers this topic with great elegance and a deep understanding of history. See her video on YouTube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

Click here to see her book on Amazon.com.

In her lecture and book, Naomi reveals the ten steps to fascist, then reveals how the United States of America is pursuing all ten! This S.1959 legislation, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, represents one of the ten steps to achieve a fascist state!

It is designed to squash all opposition to the State's ongoing march towards blatant fascism, where secret police and secret prisons dominate the law enforcement landscape, stripping U.S. citizens of all civil liberties and Constitutional protections.

Thoughtcrimes are about to become a reality in the United States of America, and Congress is pushing this through as quickly as possible so that each individual member of Congress can claim that he or she is "against terrorism." But this bill doesn't merely target terrorism: It targets anyone who speaks or even thinks thoughts against the U.S. federal government.

With this bill, the U.S. government is officially labeling the People of the United States as criminals. It is drawing a line in the sand and stating that from now on, it's the Government vs. the People.

If we don't stop this bill from becoming law, we are lost as a nation.

There is no turning back from tyranny once the government turns its own citizens into criminals, enforcing only the thoughts, ideas, words and speeches that it approves or tolerates. Everything is at stake here!

Take action now, or lose your freedoms forever
If you live in the U.S., it is urgent that you call your senators right now and voice your strong opposition against this extremely dangerous law.

Here are the phone numbers for the U.S. Senate switchboard:

1-877-851-6437
1-800-833-6354
1-888-355-3588
1-866-220-0044
1-866-808-0065
1-877-762-8762
1-866-340-9281
1-800-862-5530

How to do this:

1) Make sure you know the names of your Senators.
2) Call the U.S. Senate switchboard using one of the numbers above.
3) Ask to speak to the offices of your Senators.
4) Tell them you are strongly opposed to S. 1959, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
5) Ask for their fax number.
6) Follow up your phone call with a written, signed letter that you fax to your Senators.

Stopping this bill from becoming law is the single most important thing all Americans can do right now.

If this becomes law, all free speech about health freedom, the crimes of the FDA, the crimes of the Bush Administration, America's role in global warming and any other topics could all be criminalized. YOU could be labeled a terrorist, kidnapped by government thugs, taken from your home, thrown in a secret prison, denied access to legal representation, denied due process and essentially "disappeared" into a system of such corruption and evil that it now begins to blatantly mirror Nazi Germany.

Think it couldn't happen here? It's happening right now! This is exactly how it happened in Nazi Germany. First, burn the Reichstag and blame it on the "enemy." Pass new police state laws. Disarm the people. Spread fear. Erect secret prisons and secret police. Call anyone who disagrees with you a "traitor." Control the mainstream media. Sound familiar? This is all happening right now in the United States of Amerika, and if we don't work to stop it, this nation will rapidly devolve into a fascist police state where no one is truly free.

We are but a few small steps away from it right now. All it would take is one dirty bomb in a major U.S. city. Bush would declare Martial Law and take over the National Guard. Troops on the streets. Anyone who writes a blog against the government would be arrested. Authors of "alternative" books would be kidnapped and have their books burned on the street. It could all happen at the stroke of a pen. The infrastructure for tyranny is in place right now, just waiting to be invoked.

Our best weapons: Non-violent protest and speaking the truth
How can we fight back against this onslaught of tyranny? We must use what remaining free speech freedoms we have right now to alert our fellow citizens to what's happening. We must rise up and tell the truth while urging our representatives in Washington to resist the temptation to vote for more "anti-terrorism" legislation that only works to enslave the American people.

We must use our phones, faxes, emails and blogs to rally our friends, family members and anyone who will listen to oppose these police state laws, and we must organize mass (peaceful) protests against this government that is attempting to marginalize the rights and freedoms of our People.

We must not be lulled into a sense of false security by the purveyors of hatred and fear -- the Sean Hannitys, Rush Limbaughs and Bill O'Reillys of the world. Instead, we must listen to the voices of freedom. In terms of the upcoming election for U.S. President, there is only one candidate that actually believes in freedom: Ron Paul. He needs your support to win: www.RonPaul2008.com

All the other candidates are nothing more than tyrants of different political affiliations. Ron Paul is the only candidate that truly understands the fundamentals of freedom. That's why he's the only real choice for our next President. Can you imagine what Hillary Clinton would do with the police state powers that Bush has now created? That's the danger of all laws that centralize power in Washington: It's not necessarily what today's President will do with them, but what some future President will do with them.

That's why it's never good enough to say, "Well, we intend to only apply these laws to terrorists and not to U.S. citizens at home." That may be the intention right NOW, but virtually all such laws creep into areas of enforcement for which they were never intended. Just look at the application of RICO laws which were originally designed to fight organized crime operations but are now applied to virtually anyone (and yet they are never applied to Big Pharma, which operates almost exactly like organized crime!). All these anti-terrorism laws run the danger of expanding in enforcement to the point where they are applied against the People of this country. At first, it's only illegal for "terrorists" to think thought crimes, but before long, it's illegal for anyone to think those same thoughts. That when the domestic arrests of authors, journalists, bloggers and thought leaders will kick off, and the country will plunge itself into outright tyrannical fascism.

Again, we're on the track right now. This is happening, folks. You're LIVING through an amazing chapter of history right now. You're actually witnessing the downfall of a free nation and the rise of a superpower fascist state. You're actually part of it.

When it's all over, will you look back and realize you did nothing? Or will you now take a stand against tyranny and oppose these dangerous laws and lawmakers who threaten the Constitutional freedoms of you and your children?

Mike Adams

About the author: Mike Adams is a natural health researcher and author with a strong interest in personal health, the environment and the power of nature to help us all heal He has authored more than 1,500 articles and dozens of reports, guides and interviews on natural health topics, reaching millions of readers with information that is saving lives and improving personal health around the world. Adams is an honest, independent journalist and accepts no money or commissions on the third-party products he writes about or the companies he promotes. In 2007, Adams launched EcoLEDs, a maker of super bright LED light bulbs that are 1000% more energy efficient than incandescent lights. He also launched an online retailer of environmentally-friendly products (BetterLifeGoods.com) and uses a portion of its profits to help fund non-profit endeavors. He's also a successful software entrepreneur, having founded a well known email marketing software company whose technology currently powers the NewsTarget email newsletters. Adams is currently the executive director of the Consumer Wellness Center, a 501(c)3 non-profit, and practices nature photography, Capoeira, Pilates and organic gardening. Known on the 'net as 'the Health Ranger,' Adams shares his ethics, mission statements and personal health statistics at www.HealthRanger.org

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted November 30, 2007 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NAM

This was first posted in Uni-versal thread as a reply to another posting... and then posted as a separate informative piece on the Universal thread.

Then, I was educated that my posting was defined as inappropriate for that forum and one of the Moderators (Sesame) deleted it off of Uni-veral and posted it over here.

Since this information isn't something you all can embrace... I deleted it.. per my guidance after mediating on it.

The next morning... today... I received an article from a friend in Washington, DC where I was born and raised.. and worked on Capital Hill as a reporter... and posted the new thread of the new legal action going on on Capital Hill... see above!

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posted November 30, 2007 03:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Since this information isn't something you all can embrace... I deleted it.. per my guidance after mediating on it

Well hun' you meditate on that again because here is one person that is very much interested on these topics, I may not comment sometimes because I am not sure , I need more information or I am just taking the information in but I am surely wanting to know what the heck is going on with the place I call home.

I may be able to talk about sex and relationships freely and that might give you the idea that I am not cut out for this but don't be fooled because knowing about everything is what makes us better people, and if I am all about "relationships" as my chart says then I am all about what society is doing, money, love etc.

So...you keep posting some of us are listening!

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted November 30, 2007 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Eleanore
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posted December 01, 2007 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, BiBi, you'll find that there have been a number of posts over the years regarding the IRS and fraud, etc. It's always been an interesting subject, particularly in Global Unity. I know that sometimes posts of a political bent end up getting transferred to GU partly because politics generally leads to heated discussions ... and so Global Unity was created to try to filter political discussions away from the rest of the site. It's not an exact science and overlaps happen but I don't think that sesame meant any offense. Certainly it doesn't mean that the subject isn't of interest to some of us.

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posted December 01, 2007 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sesame didn't move it, I did. I thought people in GU would more appreciate and comment on it.

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posted December 01, 2007 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about people who appreciated it in UC but don't frequent GU, who don't know where it went?

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posted December 02, 2007 01:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eleanore,

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Eleanore
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posted December 02, 2007 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, I see, Randall. Thanks for clarifying.

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posted December 02, 2007 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, 26t!

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posted December 03, 2007 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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