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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 17, 2008 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TerrorStorm: A History of Government-Sponsored Terrorism

Throughout history, criminal elements inside governments have carried out terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them. TerrorStorm reveals how, in the last hundred years, Western leaders have repeatedly murdered their own citizens while posing as their saviors. The film debuted at the American Scholars Symposium conference in Los Angeles, June 24-25, 2006. The idea for the conference was largely the idea of Charlie Sheen, who appears after his public declaration that he did not believe the Official Story on 9/11.


"Watching this movie is the duty of every patriotic American and Brit! Whether you agree, disagree, or are on the fence, this will at least give you some facts. You can check those facts for yourself and make up your own mind. Do your own research if you want to try to debunk this movie. At least you will learn something in the process. BUT, watch this with an open mind. If you come with the luggage that is your bias, you might end up simply rejecting the movie without acknowledging its many merits. Watch it and let others know of it."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8136133221213939183

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jwhop
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posted May 17, 2008 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex Jones is another phony.

Caught part of one of his rants about government concentrations camps and sent him this email...also sent the email to his friend George Norrey at Coast to Coast.

So far, no response from Alex Jones...or George Norrey.

Seemed a simple enough request to me. If Alex Jones knows all about government concentration camps then Alex Jones must know where they are. Since Alex Jones says he's trying to inform the American public, then why wouldn't Alex Jones be overjoyed to share the locations?

Well, one perfect reason Alex Jones wouldn't be overjoyed to share the locations of those government concentration camps is because he's blowing smoke out of his ass. The purpose of which is to make a lot of money selling tapes, seminars, newsletter memberships, tee shirts and other Alex Jones merchandise to those so gullible they couldn't find their own as$es with both hands and a searchlight.

Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:07:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: jwhop
Subject: Alex Jones
To: george@coasttocoastam.com

Well George, I just sent this email to Alex Jones whom I suspect is a total utter fraud. I feel much the same way about you. Let's see if Mr. Jones can rise to the occasion and furnish the information about those detention centers he's been running his mouth about.

Of course George, since you're such good friends you must have the same information. I'd be delighted to have it from either one of you.

Mr. Jones, you are either the biggest liar on earth of the most craven coward on earth.

You say there are detention centers readied to detain Americans.
Give me the the GPS coordinates of all those detention centers you claim to know about.

On the other hand Mr. Jones, if I believed even 10% of what you claim is absolute fact, then Mr. Jones those responsible would be dying like flies right now.

So Mr. Jones, you run your mouth, you offer no proof, just your unsupported allegations but your guns, if you even have any guns are in your closet. Why is that Mr. Jones? Are you that big a coward? The kind of coward who knows what's up but doesn't have the balls to take the necessary action?

I suspect you are making a very good living off the gullibility of those who listen to you.

You could prove me wrong by giving me those exact GPS coordinates of those detention camps you allege the US government has prepared for us all.

How about it Mr. Jones? It's put up or shut up time.

One last thing Mr. Jones. If, and I say if you were right and I were one of the conspirators and you were running all over America tipping off the American people to the PLAN, then Mr. Jones you would have a very fatal accident.

So tell me Mr. Jones; why are you still walking around on planet earth? You say these are evil and utterly ruthless people and yet, you're still walking around breathing the air. How do you account for that?

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posted May 17, 2008 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like an answer to that question, too, jwhop.

I'll have to do some of my own research into Jones' sources.

I certainly dont place my faith in everything that comes out of his, or anybody's, mouth.

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So tell me Mr. Jones; why are you still walking around on planet earth? You say these are evil and utterly ruthless people and yet, you're still walking around breathing the air. How do you account for that?

Seems to me that you just gave a possible answer to your own question.
What better way to draw attention to Jones and create suspicion than by killing him?
By allowing him to run his mouth, they can just make him look crazy.
If they killed every person who speaks up and makes these claims,
the public would grow suspicious almost overnight.

For an example of one conspiracy theorist who did get killed:

William Cooper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVz_xloNAWw
http://www.hourofthetime.com/williamcooper.html

Cooper claimed, among other things, that Alex Jones is a liar.
I've found Cooper a more credible source for conspiracy information,
but I've yet to come to any conclusions about him or Jones.
Cooper was gunned down and smeared after his death.

Cooper is known, among other things, for his prediction of the events of 9/11
In June of 2001, he claimed there would be a major attack in the U.S,
and that the attack would be blamed on, you guessed it, Osama bin Laden.

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jwhop
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posted May 17, 2008 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I don't think THEY are afraid to kill Jones.

The problem is there are no THEY in the first place.

Jones has a conspiracy complex...that only operates when there's money to be made...by him.

I did ask a simple question and got no answer from either Jones or Norrey. Simple reason; there are no concentration camps being readied for Americans.

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posted May 17, 2008 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE COMBINATION OF CAPS AND BOLDS IS GOOD FOR EMPHASIZING A WORD OR PHRASE

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 18, 2008 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They probably get lots of mail, jwhop.

I doubt they can answer every single email.

And even if they dont know where the camps are, it doesnt mean there are no camps.

They may be basing their assertions on reliable insider reports.

If the camps exist, their location may be unknown even to most of the people who have been there.

That is, after all, how BIG secrets are kept secret.


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posted May 18, 2008 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For an example of one conspiracy theorist who did get killed:

William Cooper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVz_xloNAWw http://www.hourofthetime.com/williamcooper.html

Cooper claimed, among other things, that Alex Jones is a liar.
I've found Cooper a more credible source for conspiracy information,
but I've yet to come to any conclusions about him or Jones.
Cooper was gunned down and smeared after his death.

Cooper is known, among other things, for his prediction of the events of 9/11
In June of 2001, he claimed there would be a major attack in the U.S,
and that the attack would be blamed on, you guessed it, Osama bin Laden.

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jwhop
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posted May 18, 2008 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If they knew there are camps, then they would know where those camps are.

Don't attempt to give me the..."prove a negative" routine.

Alex Jones is just a common garden variety liar. Plenty of time to have fashioned a response...if Alex Jones had anything to say on the subject.

Yeah Blue, you know...the big, bad [bTHEY[/b].

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jwhop
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posted May 18, 2008 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So HSC, what are the names of those Federal Agents who gunned down Cooper?

You must know their names since you say THEY killed cooper.

How about sharing that information with us HSC...since you're in the know.

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posted May 18, 2008 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nov 6, 2001


Sheriff's Deputy Shot;Original: The notice on this story says: (Copyright 2001 Associated Press. All rights reserved. Thismaterial may not be published, broadcast, rewritten orredistributed) so we aren't reproducing it here. It may, of course, disappear. The gist of it is:

A sheriff's deputy in Arizona was shot while trying to arrest William Milton Cooper. The deputy was hospitalized in critical condition, but Bill Cooper was not. He was dead. This occurred around midnight last night. The reason they were trying to arrest Cooper was, as far as I can tell, because he "had a handgun."

Here is a private report:
Update on William Cooper

At 1:00 p.m. mountain time Nov.6th We received a call from Officer Frank Valenzuela form Az. Dept of Public Safety, This call came to us as a result of our calling the sheriff's office to confirm that this incident had happened, he informed us that this level of entrapment for Mr. Cooper started at 11:40 p.m. mt. time Nov. 5th 2001 by luring Bill Cooper away from his home which sat on top of a hillside in the community of Edgar ,Az his physical address was 96 North Clearview Circle , Edgar, Az. The departments of Edgar and Apache law enforcement were working together. They claimed that they had gone out to serve 3 felony warrants, pertaining to someone having had a semi-automatic pistol drawn on them by Bill Cooper.

At this time we do not have that info as to whom that was who filed a complaint.

Officers deliberately caused a ruckus to get this man away from his home to create this entrapment He went down the hill away from his home to the automobile to see what the ruckus was, it was 2 law officers in plain clothes. He spoke to them then got back in his car to go back up to his house , when out of hiding came a patrol car that blocked his return to his home. He put his hands on the car window as we assume that is what he was ordered to do as they approached his car he pulled out to get around the car . He got out of his car and tried to run for his home. Shots were fired. He returned fire hitting one officer in the head twice whom is in surgery in St Joe's hospital. The other officer continued to fire until Cooper was dead. Please keep in mind this report was given to us by the sheriffs office and here are the numbers.. 928-333-5580, 1-800-352-1850

William Cooper authored the book Behold The Pale Horse. He was also battling the IRS. He also was a well known radio talk show host. We here at MOM have a problem with this report.

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"Sometime ago I had the opportunity to meet William Cooper and his wife Annie. It was part of my job to verify whether this man did indeed speak the truth or was just another person seeking fame and fortune. What I found was a rugged, bulldog, driven individual who was kind, thoughtful and tenderhearted. He was truly concerned about you and your welfare. "Bill knew that people were badly informed by a society which spoon- feeds you deception until there is no distinction between fiction and reality. He sees what many other(s) see happening, and he is not afraid to do something about it.

"There are many who do not want you to know what Bill has to say. They have tried many times to stop him from saying it. The scars on his face and the loss of his leg are his bandages of sincerity on your behalf.

"No one becomes popular by telling people the truth. History records what happened to the true prophets of the past. However, some have listened to their warnings and were not caught off-guard. Others have put their heads in the sand and refused to listen.

"Bill has it together, and has put it together for you so you can also be one of the informed of the world. A well informed person can make the right decision. William Cooper has my vote of approval because I cared enough to find out who the man is. Now is your opportunity."


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The Legacy Of William Cooper


William (Bill) Cooper was shot and killed November 5th 2001 under suspicious circumstances.

A former naval officer, decorated Vietnam War veteran, shortwave radio broadcaster and a world-reknowned lecturer and author, Bill spent his last years exposing the truth behind the New World Order. This is his story.

Bill was adamant that he would only broadcast or print information that he had documented and verified. He would not allow unverified information to go out over his radio program. This is what made him special. If Cooper said it, you could be pretty certain he could back it up with hard evidence. On his shortwave radio show, "The Hour of Our Time," Bill would read to his audience, among other things, heretofore hidden information about the history of secret societies from ancient times to the present day. Over 40 hours of these tapes exist.

'The Hour Of Our Time' is the only official documentary of William Cooper's life, his works and his legacy.

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