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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2008 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did you think?

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posted September 03, 2008 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Felt like I just heard a political sermon being delivered. One of many to come from this rising star.

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posted September 03, 2008 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought she did well, very well.

Sarah Palin is exactly the kind of young, bright, energetic, articulate conservative I warned the RNC 2 years ago they needed to find.

She's the prototype of what the Republican party needs to become.

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posted September 04, 2008 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Democrats perhaps may have expected that Palin will play victim.
But after this speech she has proved she won't play victim. She is tough. She is very authentic. She is sarcastic ,compassionate, even humorous at times.

No wonder she has the nations highest approval rating 80% for any governor.


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posted September 04, 2008 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it was intelligent, witty and determined.

She took the fight to Obama where it belongs and removed it from the feet of her family.

Lipstick anyone?

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I liked it. Sometimes i felt that her sarcasm can hurt her but overall i think she is great. I liked that she kept saying things about making goverment accountable to the people of the United States.

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posted September 04, 2008 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I am working with an aqua male colleage and he is sarcastic so often.


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I love those hockey moms. You know, they say the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick. - Palin


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posted September 04, 2008 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uncensored excerpts of speeches directed at Obama:
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Huckabee:
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Barack Obama's excellent adventure to Europe took his campaign for change to hundreds of thousands of people who don't even vote or pay taxes here. But let me hasten to say that it's not what he took there that concerns me. It's what he brought back: European ideas that give the government the chance to grab even more of our liberty and destroy our hard-earned livelihood.
The fact is, my friends, most Americans don't want more government. They want less government.
It was -- it was, in fact, the founder of our party, Abraham Lincoln, who reminded us that a government that can do everything for us is the government that can take everything from us.

Giuliani:
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...a gifted man with an Ivy League education. He worked as a community organizer. What? He worked -- I said -- I said, OK, OK, maybe this is the first problem on the resume.
He worked as a community organizer. He immersed himself in Chicago machine politics.
Then he ran for -- then he ran for the state legislature and he got elected. And nearly 130 times, he couldn't make a decision. He couldn't figure out whether to vote "yes" or "no." It was too tough.
He voted -- he voted "present."
I didn't know about this vote "present" when I was mayor of New York City. Sarah Palin didn't have this vote "present" when she was mayor or governor. You don't get "present." It doesn't work in an executive job. For president of the United States, it's not good enough to be present.
You have to make a decision.


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If the facts are against you, change them


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A few years later -- a few years later, he ran for the U.S. Senate. He spent most of his time as a celebrity senator: no leadership, no legislation to really speak of.
His rise is remarkable in its own right. It's the kind of thing that can happen only in America.


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But he's never -- he's never run a city. He's never run a state. He's never run a business. He's never run a military unit. He's never had to lead people in crisis.
He is the least experienced candidate for president of the United States in at least the last 100 years.
Not a personal attack, a statement of fact. Barack Obama has never led anything, nothing, nada.
Tough times require strong leadership, and this is no time for on-the-job training.

Obama's flip flop

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Obama was going to take public financing for his campaign, until he didn't.
Obama was against wiretapping before he voted for it.
When speaking to a pro-Israel group, Obama favored an undivided Jerusalem. Until the very next day when he changed his mind.
I hope for his sake, Joe Biden got that VP thing in writing.


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When Russia rolled over Georgia, John McCain immediately established a very strong, informed position that let the world know how he'll respond as president at exactly the right time. Remember his words? Remember what John McCain said? "We are all Georgians."
Obama's -- talk about judgment. Let's look at what Obama did. Obama's first instinct was to create a moral equivalency, suggesting that both sides were equally responsible, the same moral equivalency that he's displayed in discussing the Palestinian Authority and the state of Israel.
Later -- later, after discussing this with his 300 foreign policy advisers, he changed his position, and he suggested the United Nations Security Council could find a solution.
Apparently, none of his 300 foreign policy security advisers told him that Russia has a veto power in the United Nations Security Council.
By the way, this was about three days later. So -- so he changed his position again, and he put out a statement exactly like the statement of John McCain's three days earlier.
I have some advice for Senator Obama: Next time, call John McCain.

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posted September 04, 2008 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
continued....

Palin:
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...might add that in small towns, we don't quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren't listening.
We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco. As for my running mate, you can be certain that wherever he goes, and whoever is listening, John McCain is the same man

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And now, I've noticed a pattern with our opponent, and maybe you have, too. We've all heard his dramatic speeches before devoted followers, and there is much to like and admire about our opponent.
But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or even a reform, not even in the State Senate.


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This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting and never use the word "victory," except when he's talking about his own campaign.


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But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed, when the roar of the crowd fades away, when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot...
When that happens, what exactly is our opponent's plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet?
The answer -- the answer is to make government bigger, and take more of your money, and give you more orders from Washington, and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world.

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In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers, and then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.

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Among politicians, there is the idealism of high-flown speech- making, in which crowds are stirringly summoned to support great things, and then there is the idealism of those leaders, like John McCain, who actually do great things.


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For a season, a gifted speaker can inspire with his words....


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posted September 04, 2008 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not surprised that the Republicans are avoiding almost every issue.......they're wrong and against the opinions of the people on almost every issue: iraq, health care, energy...

Nice speech Palin, contained absolutely no substance, what do you stand for? Nothing you think people should hear about, apparently.

All I saw was an undereducated, under prepared soccer mom, picked to add some spice to the doldrums that is John McCain.

And what is with these people having buttons that say "hottest VP from the coldest state," talk about misogyny...yeeesh! I guess this is what the republicans have always stood for though.

Oh, and nice diversity in the crowd, what were there like 2-3 people of color?

What a joke....

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posted September 04, 2008 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does she stand for?

-- an advocate of children with special needs
-- drilling for oil in ANWR and coasts of Florida. Being prepared until transition to windmills and solar power and nuclear power.
-- not loosing sights of our goal in Iraq.
-- giving back prosperity to people
(instead of Hillary's dull and boring shared prosperity statements. We saw how
Obama does not even care about his brother.)

Tonight is McCain's speech.
Entire speech transcript here

Note: CNN has censored some part of the speech.

I think I trust this pair much more than the Obama/Biden.

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posted September 04, 2008 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She also made a statement on how running for president is more than personal discovery (referring to Obama)....

I just can't find the exact words, anywhere. The liberal media would have censored it.

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posted September 04, 2008 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You looking for this Mannu?

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Harry Reid, the Majority Leader of the current do-nothing Senate, not long ago summed up his feelings about our nominee.

He said, quote, "I can't stand John McCain." Ladies and gentlemen, perhaps no accolade we hear this week is better proof that we've chosen the right man. Clearly what the Majority Leader was driving at is that he can't stand up to John McCain. That is only one more reason to take the maverick of the Senate and put him in the White House. My fellow citizens, the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of "personal discovery." This world of threats and dangers is not just a community, and it doesn't just need an organizer.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_text

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posted September 04, 2008 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah. Thats the one.

Thanks.


Hmmm..I should trust yahoo more than cnn or msnbc I guess.

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I thought it was intelligent, witty and determined.

I thought she did very well too. She's very personable. And not a moment too soon. She gives good speech and, more importantly, she got the job done. That charming evangelical Republican base is appeased and we're all watching the show. So it take a few lurid stories or two. So what? Look at those ratings.
I also found her to be noticibly sarcastic and, given that it was a getting-to-know-you presentation, was surprised by the overall negative slant of the speech.
She's a "pitbull" alright.

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Oh, and nice diversity in the crowd, what were there like 2-3 people of color?

Maybe 5 or 6 I noticed that whenever a speaker mentioned Obama the co-operative cameramen would aim for one as if to say, "We're not racists! We let blacks and latinos into the convention hall. See? See?!" Did it work for you?

And what the hell happened to McCain? I sort of liked this man back in 2000. You know, at least as far as politicians go. (remember Bush's "McCain's gay and he has an illegimate black daughter" smear campaign? Remember McCain's "I hate the gooks" blunder? Good memories) But where's the maverick? Where's the Straight Talk Express? What happened to those surprisingly candid Town Hall meetings? He looks uncomfortable, sour, stiff. He looks like a different man. hmmm

On the plus side, I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the liberal feminists bash Palin for daring to pursue her career with a baby at home *gasp*, while the well-kept conservative ladies are falling over themselves to defend her "woman's rights" and screaming incoherently about "sexism". (so it does exist!)Too funny. Alice Through the Looking Glass.

But my favorite bit was watching Rove explain to the Fox audience that Obama and McCain don't run their campaigns, campaign managers do, you sillies. And campaign managers are "selling a brand". Thanks for sorting that out for us, you vile, manipulative snake.

Say hello to militant Christianity, folks.

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posted September 06, 2008 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She scares the daylights out of me but I still like McCain and can admit that she is one tough cookie ant thats what the country needs...

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posted September 06, 2008 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I too don't believe in some of their policies but they are better than the hypocrites Obama and Biden team.

Mc Cain should not reach out to some democrats even if he looses the election on some of those issues I disagree with. Short on time to list each one.

Folks...im takin a break from GU for a while. Too many other things needs my attention. Cheers.

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posted September 06, 2008 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And what the hell happened to McCain? I sort of liked this man back in 2000. You know, at least as far as politicians go. (remember Bush's "McCain's gay and he has an illegimate black daughter" smear campaign? Remember McCain's "I hate the gooks" blunder? Good memories) But where's the maverick? Where's the Straight Talk Express? What happened to those surprisingly candid Town Hall meetings? He looks uncomfortable, sour, stiff. He looks like a different man. hmmm

Indeed. That's what I wondered, too. His campaign manager, Schmidt, is apparently connected to Rove. That should pretty much sum up everything. It's said that there is a big section for reporters on his plane, but none are ever let on.

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posted September 07, 2008 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Schmidt, is apparently connected to Rove. That should pretty much sum up everything...acoustic"

Well, if you want to play that game acoustic:

O'Bomber is connected to Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party USA, an organization funded at the time and directed by the one time communist government of the Soviet Union.

O'Bomber is connected to William Ayers, a revolutionary communist terrorist bomber and domestic terrorist and his bomber wife.

O'Bomber is connected to the Socialist Party USA, an organization which funded and supported O'Bomber in many ways and helped kick off O'Bomber's political career..such as it is.

O'Bomber is connected to the reverrrrrend Wright, a Marxist communist who preaches a doctrine..non christian doctrine..of black liberation theology. Black liberation theology is an offshoot of liberation theology which is a front for communist penetration of churches..usually Catholic churches in South and Central America. The purpose was to cause strife, civil unrest, rebellion and ultimately overthrow of governments. Wright is following the exact model with his lying, America hating, antisemitic rantings and ravings about America.

O'Bomber's every speech contains an allegation against the United States and against Americans. In that, O'Bomber is following the socialist/communist script perfectly.

"That should pretty much sum up everything"

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Obama has socialist leanings. Unless they've stubbornly dug their head into the sand, I can't imagine an informed voter could think otherwise. Sadly, there aren't too many informed voters. Remember that wonderful post from Dervish a while back about the Hilary Clinton supporter? (where the hell is the search function!!) That's the majority of us.
Anyway, the thing is I think some Americans would like to see Washington throw a little socialism into the mix. They might take umbrage to the big bad scary "S" word, but, call it what you will, socialism it is.

Schmidt A proud member of Rove's "breakfast club". Oh to be a fly on the wall!
These Bush jackals, who caused McCain such grief during the 2000 campaign, are now working for him. Interesting. Disgusting, but interesting. I suppose that pretty much sums everything up too.

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The purpose was to cause strife, civil unrest, rebellion and ultimately overthrow of governments.

Given our stellar history in Central and South America, that's an awfully ballsy statement.
Who wants to talk about Nicaragua?
How about Chile?
Anyone? Anyone?


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posted September 07, 2008 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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O'Bomber is connected to Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party USA, an organization funded at the time and directed by the one time communist government of the Soviet Union.

A charge you've repeatedly made, but never ever proven. Not an apples to apples comparison to McCain being tied to Rove either.

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O'Bomber is connected to the reverrrrrend Wright, a Marxist communist

A Communist? Where the hell did you get that?

Are we just throwing around Communism now, just to see if it'll stick?

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posted September 08, 2008 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"O'Bomber is connected to Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party USA, an organization funded at the time and directed by the one time communist government of the Soviet Union. "

True and all the bullshiiit denials coming out of leftistland can't overcome that truth. Several books have been written on Frank..O'Bomber's "Uncle Frank" and there's agreement based on personal interviews and writings of Communist Party USA members who were in the party at the same time Davis was a member and knew him...and that he was a member.

The fact you don't want to admit O'Bomber's political guru was a communist is TS acoustic.Get yourself a seance together, summon Davis from the dead and let him whisper the truth in your ear.

As for the reverrrrrnd Wright, Black Liberation Theology is an offshoot of the Marxist Communist liberation theology with which the Soviet Union hoped to infect the Catholic Churches in Central and South America. It's radically Anti America as is Wright, it's scripturally "unChristian" in both it's practices and preachings and it was after all inspired by the Communists. Wright was masquerading as a Christian theologian while mouthing Communist doctrine from his church and attempting to turn his own congregation against the United States.

Yeah right, Wright. White Americans created the HIV/AIDS virus to kill blacks.

Yeah right, Wright. Whites sell dope to blacks to put them in prison and keep them there under the 3 strikes law.

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posted September 08, 2008 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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True and all the bullshiiit denials coming out of leftistland can't overcome that truth. Several books have been written on Frank..O'Bomber's "Uncle Frank" and there's agreement based on personal interviews and writings of Communist Party USA members who were in the party at the same time Davis was a member and knew him...and that he was a member.

The fact you don't want to admit O'Bomber's political guru was a communist is TS acoustic.Get yourself a seance together, summon Davis from the dead and let him whisper the truth in your ear.


You keep saying the same things without acknowledging that none of what you say proves that Davis was a Communist. Let's hear a book's title. Let's see what the book's cited sources are. I don't believe there is a reliable citation anywhere. Otherwise there WOULD be a story around this.

I still don't buy Wright being a Communist either. That is one man who would say it outright if he were.

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