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Topic: Another Dem Talking Point Proven False
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jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 2787
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2008 01:31 PM
  
In time, every demoscat lie catches up with them and prove to be the lies lots of people recognized way back when they were first uttered.The demoscats have been saying for years that toppling Saddam has the effect of adding to terrorist ranks and making the US less safe. Now, if one of those lying demoscats can point to any successful attack against the citizens of the United States since 9/11, I'd really like to see the account of a terrorist firing an RPG up the butt of any American here at home. Any takers? In the meantime, lying demoscats move on to yet other lying arguments as reasons to surrender to terrorists. They truly are the Party of Retreat and Defeat and they need to be rooted out of the Congress of the United States. They are totally unfit to serve a free people in any capacity whatsoever. September 22, 2008
Another Dem talking point proven false
John Mendez The Democrats want you to believe that the Iraq War turned the world -- especially the Muslim world -- has turned against us because we toppled an evil killer of Muslims. Their prescription was to pull out our troops. So how do we explain this from the Jordan Times? AMMAN - Jordanian Muslims' support for Osama Ben Laden has dropped dramatically this year, with only 19 per cent expressing confidence in Al Qaeda leader, compared to 61 per cent three years ago, according to a study. I wonder what support for bin Laden would be if we had run away and abandoned Iraq the way Obama urged a few years ago?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/another_dem_talking_point_prov.html
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Eleanore
Moderator Posts: 112
From: Okinawa, Japan
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2008 09:34 PM
Don't forget Obama refusing to admit that the surge worked. He was so sure it would fail but it's success? Sooo not the point. Talk about unwilling to admit mistakes.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 4415
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 02:58 PM
I don't think that is a talking point disproved. People are still joining the military in our country, aren't they? And they're doing so while Bush has low ratings, right? As such Jordanian Muslim's confidence rating of Bin Laden doesn't tell us a whole lot (except that maybe they'll find another leader they like more). IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 03:18 PM
>>Talk about unwilling to admit mistakes.Don't forget that the socialists have a big heart. Thats what they vote with. Always ready to forgive every mistake of their favourite politician. Whoever said emotions clouds judgement is correct.
>>>They are totally unfit to serve a free people in any capacity whatsoever.
I also think that they are unfit to rule because they are populists. I never liked Bama's flip flops. The masses don't have a clue of the choices the people sitting in office have. A popular decision does not always have to be the right one. Bama changes his policies based on popularity. He is an idiot and therefore unfit to rule. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 4415
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 03:36 PM
Both points you made could be said of either candidate there, and indeed of either party.IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 03:46 PM
Therefore logically a choice comes down to who makes minimal flip flops. Perhaps on key issues like international war.Note how prudent both are on economics , because none understands it Also weigh in the number of years of experience. 2 years does not mean good and 26 year bad as the idiotic socialist brains thinks. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 4415
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:10 PM
No. Flip flops are perfectly ok. There is wisdom in Mutability. People should change their minds as their knowledge grows.
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Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:16 PM
So a nominee with 2 year experience cannot be said to possess enough wisdom.IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:19 PM
>>Both points you made could be said of either candidate there, and indeed of either party.FYI McCain went against popular decision by supporting the surge. And because the surge was success, there is change of guard in Iraq. Obama lacks any military experience. So even if he gets it right on military issues. He is guessing it. Even a monkey types atleast one valid english word in one hour if he is made to type on the keyboard
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 4415
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:24 PM
Are you really comparing Obama to a monkey again?Dick Cheney has zero military experience, and he was installed as the Secretary of Defense. Regardless, though, any President with or without military experience is going to rely on current military leaders for opinions and guidance. quote:
FYI McCain went against popular decision by supporting the surge.
That's true. Not many Republicans seem to remember that fact, and instead make Obama out to be crazy for going with the generally accepted opinion of the day. IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:28 PM
>>Not many Republicans seem to remember that fact, and instead make Obama out to be crazy for going with the generally accepted opinion of the day.
But you are comparing apples and oranges.
One was pre war and the other post war. How do you not know Obama was not having a monkey moment when he voted for prewar?
If you go by your logic they are even on war topics. But common sense says no and even the polls favor McCain on that.
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 4415
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:33 PM
Your post doesn't make any sense to me, so I can't answer. There was only one surge.IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 856
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:33 PM
a monkey moment you two must be bored to carry on like this....  ------------------
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Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:35 PM
>>Your post doesn't make any sense to me, so I can't answer. There was only one surge.
If one surge than McCain wins.
No I am not saying Obama is a monkey. Its an expression. IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:36 PM
I think you can do this exercise if you haven't already. List key factors on which you must make a decision and the see what the mind tells you.You can share here if you want.
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Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:42 PM
How about the phrase, a broken clock is right twice a day.Is it less racist? So if Obama flip flops on the same day. He is stupid. Agreed?
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 4415
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 04:52 PM
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If you go by your logic they are even on war topics. But common sense says no and even the polls favor McCain on that.
There is a debate Friday night regarding Foreign Policy. Your common sense may dictate that McCain's better, but I agree with what Obama's said regarding going after terrorism where it is, and I think Obama's got a very good foreign policy team already. If we take it for granted that both will have good military teams put together, then it comes down to temperment, and I believe McCain will be more hasty than Obama. I don't like haste in a President. I prefer slow and methodical (as any Capricorn with a Virgo Moon would). IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 05:01 PM
I don't think he is better on foreign policies. He didn't know about Russia's veto power. Such ignorance punishes one in the objective analysis.He is just eloquent and he is better as a person the other can relate with. Thats his plus points. IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 05:14 PM
Notice how you turned to the human element 
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Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 05:14 PM
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 4415
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2008 05:28 PM
I don't mind the human element (INFJ).IP: Logged |
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