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venusdeindia
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posted January 21, 2009 05:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is Ann Coulter being mean-spirited to single mothers? The famous author is in the news again with a book to sell, and TV presenters are "offended". Or, at least they're pretending to be.


Prepare for crocodile tear floods.


Lost for words, the NBC's TV heads don't know how to respond to Coulter's evidence because sociology is on her side (again). So this time they're attacking her tone.


The latest TV spin is simple: "Sure, we all agree with Ann that the majority of jailbirds are from single mother homes, and that this is a family security issue, but we don't like her tone."


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{{ actally Ann quoted an older 1996 statistic of 70 % convicts belonging to single mother families, given how the single mother families have increased to 1/3 of all children the statistic of 90 % i gave and got crucified for must be closer }}


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Yeah that's it. They "don't like her tone."


So for reason's sake let's quickly review nine unvarnished statements related to single mothers and rebellious teens. You have every right to judge Coulter's "venomous tone" later, but let's carefully analyse these words like objective analysts. Here they are (in no particular order):

Politically incorrect statement, number one, page 26:


One of the many myths of our divorce culture is that divorce automatically rescues children from an unhappy marriage. Indeed, many parents cling to this belief as a way of making themselves feel less guilty.


Politically incorrect statement, number two, page 174:


Divorce is, in a curious way, an attempt to shore up marriage by making its bonds looser and by allowing people who fail the first time to try harder with the second spouse. The general loosening of sexual morals tends to affect the young and unattached, and minorities of what once had been called deviants, more than it affects those who want to set a public legal seal on partnership and parenthood.


Politically incorrect statement, number three, page 101:


I think the biggest mistake liberals ever made was the cockamamie idea that somehow or another a woman could raise her children just as well as a woman and a man.


Politically incorrect statement, number four, page 111:


I have never seen a lost generation; what I have found is a lot of adults who want to lose the generation.


Politically incorrect statement, number five on W.W.J.D. (What Would Jesus Do?) merchandise, page 144:


I suggested they put the letters on underwear. Then maybe teenagers will stop and think when it really matters.


Politically incorrect statement, number six, page 139:


We have expectations for you. Shape up. Stand up. Pick your head up, and look me straight in the eye. You know what's right, and you know what's wrong.



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Politically incorrect statement seven, page 184:


Society's principal cheerleaders for expressive divorce have been its most economically advantaged and well-educated women, but only their message, and not their privilege, has been transmitted to their working class "sisters".

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{{ Bullseye, the so called liberation movement was started and funded by upper class Ladies with housekeepers - the majority of lower class women HAD to work and be married , there was no other option. They couldnt afford to be single parents OR housewives, their husbands didnt earn enough.

Curiously these very same women are the ones today that have both careers AND stable families - with domestic help to manage both. On the other hand their gullible sisters who bought it are finding it hard to raise kids on their own both emotionally and financially .

Whereas these upper class ladies havent changed their own lifestyles one bit, today millions of single women in their 30's and 40 's are waking up and smelling the coffee.

You cannot have YOUR cake AND eat HIS too

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Politically incorrect statement, number eight, page 193:


Our cotemporary secular thinking about marriage is a blend of psychotherapy and politics, and its a language of rights and needs.


Politically incorrect statement, number nine, page 181:


A culture of divorce soothes children with antidepressants, consoles them with storybooks on divorce, and watches over their lives from family court.


Oh, by the way, I must inform readers that Coulter didn't make these statements, although all the page numbers are correct. So perhaps NBC's tone police are interrogating the wrong hipster.


You can find the first statement in The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce: A 25 Year Landmark Study (2000), by Judith S. Wallerstein (School of Social Welfare at the University of California Berkeley), Julia M. Lewis (San Francisco State University), and Sandra Blakeslee (award-winning science correspondent for The New York Times).


You can find the second statement in The Abolition of Britain: From Winston Churchill to Princess Diana (2000), by Peter Hitchens (English columnist).


Rick Lawrence cites the third view in Trend Watch (2000), but the actual words - quoted in Rolling Stone - come from the lips of Democratic political consultant, James Carville, the "architect of Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign."


You can also find the fourth, fifth and sixth statements in Trend Watch. The fourth view -- quoted in the leftwing Nation -- comes from a twenty-something youth minister in Dorchester, Massachusetts. The fifth view - quoted in Newsweek - comes from an unnamed youth minister. The sixth view -- quoted in USA Today -- comes from Obama's servant, Colin Powell, former chairmen of the Joints Chief of Staff, in his message to young America.


You can find the final three statements in The Divorce Culture: Rethinking Our Commitments to Marriage and Family (1996), by Barbara Dafoe "Dan Quayle Was Right" Whitehead. I understand she's a heretical Democrat.


And, finally, here's my open email to NBC's Matt Lauer: Hands off our Ann. This time you've gone too far. Really. "We have expectations for you. Shape up. Stand up." I don't like your venomous tone. "You know what's right, and you know what's wrong."


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heres a couple of honest single moms - who do NOT play the victim and shame on thee card.

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I was divorced when my child was 6 years old. I am still single, she is 27. I would have loved to stay married and if not that at least I would have loved to have an amicable divorce, one that encouraged both of us to give the most to our child. But it was not to be. And I do see certain events in my daughters life that I attribute to the fact that there was no real male role model. I did the best I could. She is wonderful. But Ann is right.



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I haven't read this book yet, but will be ordering it soon. Sometimes Ms. Coulter's snarkiness bothers me a little, but in a sort of guilty way because I think she is so funny. I guess what bothers me is that when I analyze it thoroughly, no matter how snarky, she is right. And, that is also what I love about her. Liberals should adore her because she evokes so much "feeling" from people, and feelings are what it is all about, non?

Well, as a divorced mother who reared my children alone for 15 years with sporadic child support. I fully agree with Ann on this one. I would have been a much better mother has I been married to an even average husband and father. Unfortunately, I was foolish enough to marry very unwisely. Here's a clue, intelligence has not got any correlation with integrity, courage and honor.

My children are all doing well and have never become statistics for drugs, promiscuity, crime or anything else. But I am equally certain that they would be doing much better had I been a full time mother instead of a full time provider and part-time mother, and if they had had the influence of a stable and loving father.

Hats off to Ann once again and to Mr. Terpstra for setting the record straight.

Best regards,
Gail S


hats off ladies

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And these like minded women kick- @ss as usual


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The truth hurts.....it hurts the lawyers bottom line. Divorce is an industry in America. Look at the number of court appointed counsellors, facilitators, childrens advocates who would be out of jobs if no fault were taken off the table, it is a cash cow. The losers are the children and the parents who tend to be more miserable than when they were married. There is this expectation of marriage that it should just run smoothly, if you hit a bump you must have chosen the wrong person, quick divorce. As if no effort should be required, no compromise. Most divorce is initiated by women because they are not happy any more and it must be the man's fault. Feminists set unreal expectations for women and they buy it cause its easier for it to be someone else's fault. It all revolves around personal responsibility. Too many in society want someone else to take responsibility for them. The really weird part is, with everything going wrong economically, socially and politically, may actually make people think more before divorce.



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Of course they don't like her tone!

The left is hell bent on killing more babies and making it a free-for-all that Obama expects us to pay for (more killing facilities, more abortions, more welfare, more juvenile institutions, equals more government intervention, equals millions of new jobs). How dare we offend women/single mothers and make them feel bad about keeping their legs closed until they can take responsibility for their actions. Isn't this part of the leftest socialist plan to help fuel our failing economy?


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The solution IS to keep your legs closed until you can afford to take care of a child.

I was taught to have restraint. It is not impossible. My parents constantly supervised me. Self-righteous? Give me a break. Stating that parents and teens are incapable of being responsible is a cop-out. Difficult to have compassion and humility in a society that encourages and puts its stamp of approval on irresponsible behavior in every form, and in every facet of the media. Parents are to blame and should be held accountable for the children their children bring into the world. They allow their teens to go unsupervised. Children would not be having sex the way they are today if their parents were supervising them. It is a very simple solution and it works. Why fix a problem when our government gives us plenty of other options?

What, do we keep bailing these people out and feeling sorry for them until our own families lie in financial ruin?




Amazing isnt it BR and azalaksh.. these " American Women have practically paraphrased what i have been saying to invite such love and cuddles from all ye Libbies...who would have thought i am not the ONLY cruel b1tch in here

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in all of the world wide web there are exactly 3 individuals that support your views. hhhhmmmmm.

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I don't make a practice of responding to obsessed fanatics of *any* region of the political spectrum -- masquerading as "healers," but spewing venom and intolerance.

Especially when they only preach and will not indulge in conversation or discussion.....

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I think Venus is so against women because she yearns for acceptance from men. Possibly it's intensified by her society values regarding men. She thinks by aligning herself with the male side, she'll get the acceptance/love...Thats not the way to go about it, Love...Something ain't right.

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posted January 22, 2009 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But a fatherless bear does not commit suicide like a fatherless human.

I actually enjoyed watching Ann on the view. Loved it when Barbara was without words. It happens a few times the conservatives get back all the moneys worth when people like Ann and O'Reily are on the show.


I think we can always argue on both side of the coins. Its not wise to pretend the other side of the argument does not exist.

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I hear ya. I agree with you that it is much better to bring a child with a mother than a father, if you had to chose. Even psychologists agree with you. I experienced the pains of my father whose mother died when he was a baby and was taken care of by his step mom. He was forever hungry for love and when he became old , he would often call my mom his mother. You may find it funny, but I think every husband does like to become a baby of his wife as he grows up. There are some husbands who gets jealous of the child because the wifes attention is on the children and not on him. Deeply he must also be jealous of the wife who feel so fulfilled after becoming a mother. Its as if Universe has created something thru her. Men has to go on creating his external world, paintings, music, technology and what not to be satisfied. When they can't they feel depressed.

Poor dads too who are driven to suicides. I think it cud be due economical reasons too. I think its time for the bubble to burst. First it was the internet, then the housing and one day entire nations economy. I also think men are spending too much time within buildings and homes with their computer instead of being outside. Money does buy some happiness. If only they had enough to enjoy life.

I haven't read any of Ann coulters book but can assume she must be living by a concept of a conservative family that is healthy with both mom and dad. I bet primitive family were more happy as the children didn't knew who their dads were. Every one was taken care of. By the uncles ofcourse. It is for this reason that God is called uncle in the Kaballah. with time, the concept of property came in and then people started family and the rest we all know what it is like hahaha..
We have already reached the pinnacle of human evolution (our skeletons several hundred thousands years ago is not very different from modern ones) and family structure I think but still only 1 in millions gets enlightened. why?

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Lavlee ~
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When there's no more daddy, because the reality is, he doesn't want to grow up and help the family, and would rather be a hitch hiking mountain man, and the child has needs, the mom goes to work..
But venus says we *shouldn't* be working, we should be with our children instead of putting them in daycare!!

And venus says its *our* fault/responsibility for choosing someone like that for a partner in the first place.....

So it all comes back to her belief that women are wrong for choosing to be single mothers, and damning/dooming our children for life
(not to mention us single mothers being responsible for the suicides of the departed partner/father too)......

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Only thru a mother a child learns to love. The possibility exists. Thru a typical father a child learns to let everyone lose their hearts save his LOL I mean look at the number of girlsfriends he has. He breaks everyone's heart but keeps his, doesn't he?


But I also believe after the child grows he does need a dad(discipline). I have seen drug abuse cases leading to death and a mother opening up to me and telling me this boy really needed a dad. I was thinking a father figure perhaps.

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ummm wow you Indians are so backwards. I would've grown up happier and possibly with more money had my mom divorced my dad. My relationship with my mother would've also been better. and this i know as a fact. When my mother and i are away from my father i can actually talk to her and she seeks my advice. She treats me as a friend rather than a 5year old.
My brother has been to jail several times and he grew up with both parents.
I don't understand your refusal to live outside this cubicle you've been surrounded with your whole life.
liberal=liberation
see how those words are one and the same?

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ummm wow you Indians are so backwards. I would've grown up happier and possibly with more money had my mom divorced my dad. My relationship with my mother would've also been better. and this i know as a fact. When my mother and i are away from my father i can actually talk to her and she seeks my advice. She treats me as a friend rather than a 5year old.
My brother has been to jail several times and he grew up with both parents.
I don't understand your refusal to live outside this cubicle you've been surrounded with your whole life.
liberal=liberation
see how those words are one and the same?

you new yorker is so dumb. we don't have time for your hypotheticals. Gee, you should be called Iffy girl.

Conservative = conserve , see how ones saves energy to merge with God?

Hahahah..Just kidding ..Follow the middle way. Come back to the center from whereever you are . But do not remain at the center for long. Keep the dance alive. Thats how the world spins round and round.

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posted January 26, 2009 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mannu said:
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I also believe after the child grows he does need a dad(discipline).
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Only thru a mother a child learns to love
Oh man are those statements sexist stereotypical nonsense!
I could rant for pages with examples that disagree radically with those inane statements, but why bother?

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Here comes Lexx the great splitter LOL.

In the first statement append - when the mother cannot fulfill the role of father which is true majority of the times all over the world.

Do like wise in the other.

While its true that every thought that is thought of can be written down, its also true that whatsoever is written can be debated. So while I do take the blame for the former, I commend you for understanding the latter

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it doesn't have to be MOTHER but infants and young children need a MOTHER FIGURE - ie, one person they can relate to and be nurtured by - because that is how our brains organize themselves. too many carers, not enough nurturing, will cause even rats to wither on the vine, so to speak. a GOOD day care centre can cover this to a large degree, but in general institutionalized children do not thrive the way mothered (or anchored) children do.

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mannu - i loved the dance line on your second to last post! simply wonderful!

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Learnt it from an ordinary rope walker and not those men wearing gowns and who are taught when to raise their voice, when to bang on the desk and when to whisper in their theology schools. Jeez, actors pretending to be God's representative.

If the ropewalker begins the walk by keeping that pole in the center he will fall down. He has to create an imbalance first , say left and then he comes to center, and then goes right and then comes back to the center.


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Don't even get me started on the number of people I know PERSONALLY who come from "whole" Christian, conservative, upper-middle class families and have somehow managed to screw up their own lives.

I have a liberal perspective, not because I can't see the conservative point of view, but because I recognize that there is more than one point of view.

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What's all the screeching, howling and shrieking about?

Attempting to kill the messenger isn't a good or winning debate style.

VDI quoted a statistical social study which shows that 70% of prison inmates are from single parent homes.

The study didn't say that 70% of children raised in single parent homes will wind up in prison.

The statistical social study is valid however and shows an increased risk to children who are raised in single parent homes. Statistical social studies focus on groups, not individuals.

The flip side of this study says something positive about the single parents who raised their children...without the children dropping out of school, getting involved in drugs, promiscuous sex, winding up with a baby at 15 or in prison for rape, robbery or murder. With the statistical deck stacked against these parents...and their children, they overcame the odds.

So, what's with all the hysteria?

As for leftist feminism; I doubt one in 1000 leftist feminists even knows who or what is at the base of their leftist feminist belief system. The base of this belief system is anti-American, anti men, anti civilization, even anti women and pro homosexual.

To these radicals at the base of the leftist feminist belief system, women are too stupid to know what's good for them; to weak to take care of yourselves; need preferences in college admissions, need preferences in family courts and need preferences in hiring for jobs. In other words, you can't cut the mustard and need preferential treatment. Not exactly the strong women most leftist feminist women attempt to portray.

These are the people whom leftist feminists follow and from whom they've gotten their ideas of feminism...even if they don't know it. Most leftist feminists wouldn't recognize a real feminist if they met one. Sarah Palin and Ann Coulter ARE the real feminists. Women who made it on their own, didn't ask for special treatment because of their gender; women who believe in marriage and the family and realize these are the building blocks of civilization.

Catharine MacKinnon
Marilyn French
Susan Brownmiller
Andrea Dworkin
Susan Griffin
Ti-Grace Atkinson
Sheila Jeffrys
Robin Morgan
Naomi Wolf
Mary Koss
Betty Millard
Marilyn Frye
Catherine Comins
Gloria Steinem

"Feminism is built on believing women's accounts of sexual use and abuse by men." -- Catharine MacKinnon

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." Catherine MacKinnon

"All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French Author, "The Women's Room" (quoted again in People Magazine) "All men are rapists and that's all they are ..." --Feminist Marilyn French, People Magazine (Percent of reported rape or near-rape incidents = .07% [The FBI's Uniform Crime Report lists for the year 1996])

"[Rape] is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which ALL MEN KEEP ALL WOMEN IN A STATE OF FEAR" [emphasis added] -- Susan Brownmiller (Against Our Will p. 6)

"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership." -- Andrea Dworkin.
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin

"Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks." Andrea Dworkin in the Philadelphia Inquirer, May 21, 1995..

"Under patriarchy, no woman is safe to live her life, or to love, or to mother children. Under patriarchy, every woman is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's daughter is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman," Andrea Dworkin, Liberty, p.58..

"One can know everything and still be unable to accept the fact that sex and murder are fused in the male consciousness, so that the one without the imminent possibly of the other is unthinkable and impossible." Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 21..

"In every century, there are a handful of writers who help the human race to evolve. Andrea is one of them."--Gloria Steinem

"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual [male], it may be mainly a quantitative difference." -- Susan Griffin "Rape: The All-American Crime"

"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" -- Ti-Grace Atkinson "Amazon Odyssey" (p. 86)

"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." -- Sheila Jeffrys

"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." -- Robin Morgan, "Theory and Practice: Pornography and Rape" in "Going to Far," 1974.

"Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down." -- Letter to the Editor: "Women's Turn to Dominate" -- Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia -- Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia - 9 February 1996

Toward a Feminist Theory of the State. Catharine A. MacKinnon, 1989, First Harvard University Press (paperback in 1991) [a legal treatise comparing and contrasting feminism with COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM]

"It is not only men convicted of rape who believe that the only thing they did that was different from what men do all the time is get caught."

"If sexuality is central to women's definition and forced sex is central to sexuality, rape is indigenous, not exceptional, to women's social condition."

"Under law, rape is a sex crime that is not regarded as a crime when it looks like sex. The law, speaking generally, defines rape as intercourse with force or coercion and without consent., Like sexuality under male supremacy, this definition assumes the sadomasochistic definition of sex: intercourse with force or coercion can be or become consensual."

"Compare victims' reports of rape with women's reports of sex. They look a lot alike....[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it." Catherine MacKinnon, quoted in Christina Hoff Sommers, "Hard-Line Feminists Guilty of Ms.-Representation," Wall Street Journal, November 7, 1991.

"In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies, p. 129..

"[Acquaintance rape] is more common than left-handedness, alcoholism and heart attacks." Naomi Wolf, The Beauty Myth (in the feminist attempt to build a case that "one in four" women have been raped in America.)

Rape is a violent expression of a pattern of male supremacy, an outgrowth of age-old economic, political and cultural exploitation of women by men.? From a pamphlet entitled ?Woman Against Myth,? by Betty Millard published in 1948 by CPUSA (the Communist Party of USA.)

"[R]ape represents an extreme behavior, but one that is on a continuum with normal male behavior within the culture." Prof. Mary Koss of Kent State University (1982)

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." Catherine Comins, Vassar College Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time, June 3, 1991, p. 52..

As cited in Andrea Dworkin's "Right-Wing Women" "...I submit that any sexual intercourse between a free man and a human being he owns or controls is rape." -- Alice Walker in "Embracing the Dark and the Light," Essence, July 1982. (Feminists believe that marriage = ownership).

"Compare victims' reports of rape with women's reports of sex. They look a lot alike....[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it." Catherine MacKinnon, quoted in Christina Hoff Sommers, "Hard-Line Feminists Guilty of Ms.-Representation," Wall Street Journal, November 7, 1991.

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, (editor of MS magazine)

A young woman at the University of Pennsylvania who wore a short skirt complained of a "mini-rape" because a young man walked past her and said, "Nice legs." (Camille Paglia and Christine Hoff Sommers, "Has Feminism Gone Too Far?" Think Tank with Ben Wattenberg, Produced by New River Media, Washington, DC, November 4, 1994.)

At the University of Maryland, some female students posted the names of male students selected at random, young men about whom they knew nothing, under the heading "Potential Rapists." The message was that all men are potential rapists, though the men actually named probably did not find much comfort in that... Far more serious are the accusations of actual rape when nothing of the sort occurred. A female student came to a male student's quarters with her toothbrush, planning to stay the night. The next morning she was seen having a peaceable breakfast with the man. Later she charged him with rape and he was briefly held in jail. (John Leo, "De-escalating the gender war" U.S. News and World Report, April 18,1994, p.24.)

Accusations of date rape are flung freely by women who consented and later changed their minds about what they did. -- From: Robert H. Bork (1996): Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline, Regan Books/HarperCollins, NY (pp.193-225)

"Female heterosexuality is not a biological drive or an individual women's erotic attraction or attachment to another human animal which happens to be male. Female heterosexuality is a set of social institutions and practices... Those definitions... are about the oppression and exploitation of women [by men]." Marilyn Frye, Willful Virgin: Essays in Feminism, 1976-1992 ( Freedom: Crossing Press,1992) p.132


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