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juniperb
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posted January 21, 2009 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even in a city of cynics, the Inauguration of a new president — and the infusion of new ideas, new personalities and new energy that comes with it — summons feelings of reverence.

Barack Obama, especially, is the object of inaugural good feelings. He has assembled an impressive White House and Cabinet team. The country is clearly in his corner. With the economy gasping, and two wars dragging on sullenly, even many Republicans who ordinarily might enjoy seeing Obama fail now root for him to succeed. The stakes are simply too great.

Amid all these high hopes, it may seem needlessly sour to point out why expectations must be kept in check. But it is also realistic.

Here are seven reasons to be skeptical of Obama’s chances — and the Washington establishment he now leads:

1. The genius fallacy

There is no disputing Obama has built a Cabinet of sharp and experienced public officials. His staff, especially on national security and economic matters, is often praised as brilliant — and that’s by Republicans.

But recent history teaches us to be wary of the larger-than-life Washington figures supposedly striding across history’s stage. Consider the economy. Everyone seems to agree Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner are smart, vastly qualified to manage and repair the economy.

Everyone was saying the exact same things about the two economic geniuses of the 1990s: Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan. Now Rubin has been reduced to making excuses for his involvement in high-risk investments and for helping oversee the demise of Citigroup, which lost $10 billion in the past three months alone. The onetime oracular Greenspan has admitted to Congress that his once-revered economic philosophy had “a flaw,” and many blame him for turning a blind eye to the housing bubble.

As it happens, the Obama economic team is full of Rubin protégés, including Geithner and Summers. Geithner had to recently admit he failed to pay taxes on a big chunk of income — as part of his confirmation process to run tax policy and the Internal Revenue Service. As president of the New York Fed, he was integrally involved in the decision not to rescue Lehman Bros., which many see, in retrospect, as a grievous error.

The reception of the Obama economic team recalls the reception of President George W. Bush’s foreign policy team eight years ago. Many Democrats applauded the experience of Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell.

As Bush named his national security team in 2000, The New York Times editorialized: “Putting superstar players on the court does not always guarantee harmony or success.” In retrospect, that was an understatement, indeed.

2. The herd instinct

The most bipartisan tradition in Washington is to laud bipartisanship, even while lamenting that there is not enough of it.

But the instinct for bipartisanship overlooks an inconvenient fact: Some of Washington’s biggest blunders occur when the government moves to do big things with big support. Bush won the much-regretted Iraq war resolution of October 2002 with strong Democratic backing.

The current economic crisis produces similar pressure to get on board the train — never mind for sure where it’s going.

It is easy to sympathize with the temptation. Top officials on Obama’s team told us in recent days that things are much worse than most people appreciate. The Obama staff and top lawmakers are getting stern warnings that the banking system in particular is extremely fragile and could collapse. So they are moving with amazing speed to pump money into the economy.

First up is the stimulus package that could top $900 billion. It is a mind-numbing number rarely contemplated in U.S. history — and yet it might not work. There are no guarantees people will spend money the government doles out or that it will be enough to offset miserable economic performance elsewhere.

The history isn’t encouraging.

Rewind just a few months back. Republicans and Democrats alike said the best of many bad options was to approve $700 billion to prop up banks, mainly to thaw the credit freeze and juice the economy. Half the money is gone now. Many banks took the cash and sat on it. Some used it increase lending. But much of it was wasted or unaccounted for. Now Washington wants to spend the rest of it.

And a top Hill aide told Politico’s David Rogers that Democrats will probably need to request even more.


3. We are broke.

The past several months have produced a rare convergence. Something that politicians of both parties find pleasurable — spending money — has overlapped with what economists and policy experts of all ideological stripes said is urgently necessary. As “Saturday Night Live’s” Church Lady used to say, “How convenient.”

One month from now, Democrats will likely have passed the massive stimulus bill and Obama will have signed it into law. The new Treasury Department will be well on its way to spending the second $350 billion chunk of the $700 billion bank bailout fund.

After this rush of activity, the ability to spend during the balance of Obama’s first term — never mind if there is a second — will be sharply constrained.

Instead, the new administration and lawmakers on Capitol Hill will awaken to another first: the prospect of the national deficit approaching $2 trillion. For most, these numbers are simply too big to ponder. But ponder this: This country has never reckoned with deficits like these.

Wait, it gets worse. Remember those entitlement programs the elderly and poor need more than ever: Social Security and Medicare? In budget terms, they are more troubled than ever.

Social Security’s surpluses “begin to decline in 2011 and then turn into rapidly growing deficits as the baby boom generation retires,” according to one recent report. “Medicare’s financial status,” the report said, “is even worse.”

Basically, the government needs more money than ever at a time when people are losing jobs, income and confidence.

4. Words, words, words

Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, though starkly different men, both viewed the presidency as pre-eminently a decision-making job. Clinton often waved away speech drafts bloated with lofty language by saying: “Words, words, words.”

Obama seems to have a different view of the presidency. He thinks that the right decisions can be reached by putting reasonable and enlightened people together and reaching a consensus. He believes his job as president is to educate and inspire, largely matters of style.

He knows he is good with words. He knows he has great style. So that’s why he projects exceptional confidence in his ability to do the job.

We don’t know yet how justified Obama is in his self-confidence — or how naive.

But he is almost certain to face many tests, probably imminently, in which the test will be Obama’s ability to act quickly and shrewdly — and not merely describe his actions smoothly or impress people with nuance. And an unlike a governor — who must decide what’s in a budget and what gets cut, or whether a person to be executed at midnight should be spared — Obama has not made many decisions for which the consequences affect more than himself.

5. He rarely challenges the home team.

Obama frequently talks of the need to transcend partisanship. And he invokes his support for charter schools — a not-terribly-controversial idea — as evidence that he is willing to challenge Democratic special interest groups.

In fact, there are few examples of him making decisions during the campaign or the transition that offended his own party’s constituencies, or using rhetoric that challenged his own supporters to rethink assumptions or yield on a favored cause.

Has Obama ever delivered a “Sister Souljah speech”? Ever stood up to organized labor in the way that Clinton did in passing North American Free Trade Agreement?

This is not a good sign. By Obama’s lights, the national interest usually coincides with his personal interest. Back to you, Church Lady.


6. Everyone is winging it.

No matter how much confidence Obama or other politicians project, the reality is the current economic crisis has totally scrambled the intellectual assumptions of almost every policymaker. People who used to bemoan deficits want to spend like crazy. Improvisation is the only proper response. But the chances that improvisation will take the country to exactly the right destination — without some serious wrong turns along the way — seem very slight.

7. The watchdogs are dozing.

The big media companies that once invested in serious accountability journalism are shells of their former selves. The Tribune Co. — in other words, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune — has slashed its Washington staff by more than half. Newspaper chains such as Cox are fleeing D.C. altogether.

The end result: There are few reporters in this country doing the kind of investigative reporting that hold government officials’ feet to the fire. Think back eight years to the pre-Iraq war reporting and consider the words of Scott McClellan in his otherwise humdrum book.

“The collapse of the administration’s rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise,” McClellan wrote. “In this case, the ‘liberal media’ didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.”

Rigorous reporting is even more important when you have one-party rule in Washington. Democrats, like Republicans, are simply less likely to scrutinize a president of their own. The end result here: Don’t expect the Democratic Congress to investigate the Obama administration or hold a bunch of tough oversight hearings. That means the only real check on Obama is the same one it’s always been — the voters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090121/pl_politico/17714

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katatonic
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posted January 21, 2009 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all very worth considering. we do not know in fact "you NEVER know what's coming to you"; i worry about the people who think obama is the saviour of us all.

but i think a president who is smart, determined and optimistic and who inspires hope in his people can go a long way on a little experience.

last night i heard part of an interview with martin luther king where he was asked if he thought, like bobby kennedy, that there COULD be a black president within 40 years (we almost made it). his response was that there were SEVERAL men who could fill that role right then (1963)...and that the two years previous had brought so many amazing advances that he felt we could have a black president in 25 years.

he was over optimistic. WE ALL KNEW THAT!! but he inspired hope and at the age of 39 when he died, had achieved what generations had failed to do LARGELY THROUGH THE POWER OF HIS BELIEF!

what experience did dr king have?? was he old enough to lead his people out of egypt?? did he care?

let's stop worrying about how things could go wrong. when this country started the economy didn't even exist!! we can live on nothing (no money i mean!)if we help each other...idealistic? yes. impossible? no. there are always possible failures and miseries but the man (obama that is) is right...we can't even imagine what it was like to be one of the pilgrims, or declaration signers. we have had it so easy! we have so much! money is a fabrication! and if we don't lie down or let it knock us down, we can turn these things around and a lot faster than the experts think!

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Mannu
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posted January 22, 2009 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A left handed president is the last thing one needs in the current economy. The Americans can no longer dream when a dreamer runs the nation. Just doesn't work. He may be a good president to the children who sees fairies and ghosts and sees other visions hahahah...

We're gonna change the world

Can someone please play it. I get a kick out of it.


Or will he be like Hitler who did remarkably well by winning wars after wars not following any logic and still baffling all pundits ....

i wonder how it pans out for Obama. Will he change .....oops got interrupted..

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katatonic
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posted January 23, 2009 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is not KING OBAMA we are talking about. he is not singlehandedly running the country, left or right or up on mars. but if he continues to give voice to the ideals and principles he has been, he can only inspire people to work towards a better life; not necessarily in terms of million dollar mortgages or pie in the sky. and most of those people actually are not as stupid as you might like to believe.

if it weren't for the dreamers we would not even be a country but a colony. we would not have a civil rights charter. (and i don't mean mlk i mean kennedys and johnson), and we would still be in vietnam. course you can say we might as well be (still in nam) but we aren't. nor would we have ANY of the man made inventions you take for granted.

let's wait and see where we are going before we jump off the train.

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juniperb
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posted January 24, 2009 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
katatonic,

Looking at and reviewing the seven listed skeptisisms of this presidency does not equate to "jumping off the train"

Did you read the article??


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this is not KING OBAMA we are talking about. he is not singlehandedly running the country, left or right or up on mars.

This paragraph clearly refutes any singlehanded king notion :

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There is no disputing Obama has built a Cabinet of sharp and experienced public officials. His staff, especially on national security and economic matters, is often praised as brilliant — and that’s by Republicans.

It is a rather objective look at the troubles facing Obama....
objectively, do you disagree or agree with the article?

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AcousticGod
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posted January 24, 2009 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juni, I think she was responding to Mannu's post.

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Azalaksh
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posted January 24, 2009 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A left handed president is the last thing one needs in the current economy.
Didn't that kind of "sinister" superstition die out years ago??

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Eleanore
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posted January 25, 2009 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fear, if he does not succeed, that any failure will be glossed over due to what he is facing so early on. But all presidents have to deal with the earlier adminstration's backwash. It's no picnic he's at but if he didn't think he could handle it he shouldn't have put/kept himself in a position to be responsible for it all ... and the same goes to his adminstration. It's such a tight group of politicians anyway ... it isn't as though they were all on vacation while all the troubles we are facing now were mounting up. And that goes for Republicans, too.

I pray he is the right man for the job. Sincerely am wishing him success. Because if he fails, it won't be just an Obama failure. Or a Democratic failure. It will be a national failure and indeed, perhaps, a global failure. Nobody in our world needs that and I hope there is much more to be praised throughout his adminstration than pretty words and a vague concept of hope. May he stand up under scrutiny and usher in better times for all.

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posted January 25, 2009 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whatever anyones feelings on the matter are will be irrelevant....whatever plans there are for America is in the hands of those who ruled with 2% on the decision to put aspartame in products, the same ones who wanted Obama in power; misdirection. reality is a dangerous thing to play with, some assume they have god-like power and view the world as if its an ant hill.
http://www.rense.com/general49/susu.htm

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katatonic
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posted January 25, 2009 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks zala, and yes, i was responding to mannu's post - i wasn't sure if the lefthanded thing was a reference to sorcery or politics but either way it is irrelevant because the implication was that he can singlehandedly do ANYTHING. he is part of a vast web now, but what he CAN do is keep people inspired...and push in (hopefully) the right direction - with both hands!! we NEED our DREAMERS at ALL times!

i DID in my first post respond to juni, and i just wanted to say that although i have a certain amount of skepticism of my own, one of the things this country and indeed world has been lacking is a sense of SOMETHING TO WORK TOWARDS. this is the first candidate i have voted for(the lesser of two evils is not a choice to me!) in a long time because, like MLK, he inspires people. even though he is a very reasonable kind of chap!

we cannot predict where he will stumble or where he will soar, but let's try and get behind the IDEAS (he is aqua rising!) and the sense of unity he is suggesting can take us a long way...and if what you picture contributes anything to creating reality running possible doom scenarios is not constructive...

not to mention that i think this man is sharp and positive enough to do what FDR did, throw every idea he can into the mix until he comes up with something that will work. his lack of political experience is quite possibly what will save us from retreading the old outworn (non)solutions. yet he has surrounded himself with people who know the ropes, to balance his deficits in experience.

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