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Topic: Controversial puppy?
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Eleanore Moderator Posts: 112 From: Okinawa, Japan Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 10, 2009 09:45 PM
Biden's Puppy Breeder: "Never, Never, Never Again" Woman is vilified for selling a pedigreed pup to the Bidens.Fifteen minutes of fame turned into four months of bitter remorse for the Chester County woman who sold the Bidens their adorable little German shepherd puppy. Linda Brown's been investigated, scorned and had her life threatened. "I thought when Joe Biden bought a puppy from me, what an honor," Brown told the Daily Local News. "Out of millions of breeders in the country, in the world, he picked me." That was December. When the story got out, Brown faced backlash from pet lovers who thought the Bidens should have opted for a shelter over a breeder to find their new puppy. PETA seized the moment as an opportunity to blame the killing of shelter animals on people who buy from breeders. The organization's TV commercial, "Buy One, Get One Killed" ran in Delaware after the Biden puppy story made headlines. Dog wardens from the state showed up at Brown's Wolf Den kennel, repeatedly, for inspections. "I was cited for a piece of kibble on the floor and five strands of dog hair. They took a picture of that, they walked around, snapped pictures and don't tell you why," Brown told the newspaper. She was found "not guilty" for each citation, but hiring a lawyer for the court hearings has cost her $4,000 so far in legal fees. Brown says she and Biden both received death threats from animal activists. Related Stories Animals in the News Philly's Adoptable Pets "Never, never, never again," Brown said about selling a dog to anyone with a high profile. Her advice to breeders who've called about the Obama's puppy search: Don't do it! "It's been horrific since December," she said. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Bidens-Puppy-Breeder-Never-never-never-again.html?yhp=1 IP: Logged |
Eleanore Moderator Posts: 112 From: Okinawa, Japan Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 10, 2009 10:00 PM
My opinion ... I don't care whether or not people want purebred animals. I really don't, it should be a personal decision.
My issue with people having an issue about breeders is as follows .... Take puppy mills/pet shops. Horrible, right? Absolutely despicable. But it's not the animals' fault what those people do to them. The reason these places are so awful is that they encourage the continued practices of puppy mills because of the profit made from selling those puppies. Then you have shelters. Again, what has happened to those animals is not their fault and I applaud people who work taking care of those poor animals. However, the existence of these shelters also increases the bad behavior on the part of owners. Get tired of your dog? No big. Just dump him at a shelter. Someone else will deal with it. Were too lazy to get your dog neutered/spayed or to keep them in a safe, enclosed place? Just drop off their babies at a shelter. Many of these places rely on donations and volunteers and abusing them selfishly is just unacceptable. IMO, the only responsible way to go about getting a dog is from a reputable breeder. Not necessarily a pure bred breeder but someone who does not want to profit off the dog, who is limited in how many litters they produce and who actually takes care of the animals include socializing, house training, medical issues, etc.
So although I think it would be noble to adopt an animal for a shelter, I think the most responsible choice is to buy from a breeder and make sure that you have proper responsibility for your dog so that they don't end up contributing to the problem of overful and underfunded shelters.
Anyway, I don't think threatening responsible breeders does anyone any good and neither do I think it's anyone's business what kind of dog you get. Wherever they come from, the animal itself is blameless and just needs love and a safe home.
I'm not a fan of Biden but I really think that his politics should not be an issue, nor that his personal family decisions regarding a friggin' responsibly acquired pet should be cause for harassment from anyone. Why aren't people protesting and picketing outside the homes of people who abandon and abuse their pets instead? That's the real crime. IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 10, 2009 10:18 PM
The type of dog a man possesses tells a lot about the man. I personally love men who own sheltered dogs. Its the compassion in them that touches me. I obeserved the relationship between a man and a dog very closely in the past. I mean, owning a sheltered pet has its own disadvantages-- like say the dog is only faithful to his master and nips everyone else. But that compassion statement may not always be true. What is true though is that Obama and Biden are fake creatures. Its my opinion anyways , yours may be different.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6286 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 11, 2009 12:31 PM
best place to get a dog? from a friend whose dog has recently had puppies. i don't know what the craving for purebreds is about, especially since most purebreeds these days are seriously over/inbred. i agree that people abuse both sources but do we really want a world without animal shelters? i would suggest donating more to your local if you're worried about them!IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 3334 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 11, 2009 12:59 PM
There is no more disreputable, disgusting hypocritical so called animal rights group than PETA.These clowns waxing hysterical about animal rights is akin to Hitler lamenting the killing of Jews in Germany. This is the group which takes dogs, puppies, cats and kittens from animal shelters and private parties promising to find them good homes....then kills them and leaves their dead carcasses in dumpsters behind shopping centers. Likewise, there is no excuse for "puppy mills" who will breed any dogs to produce a litter of puppies for sale. That would include some of the worst examples of the breed standards as adopted by the AKC..American Kennel Club. I agree with Eleanore. Those wanting a pure breed puppy should go to a reputable breeder who elects to breed for temperament, fitness and adherence to the AKC breed standard. Those who don't care about pure breeds could elect to give a good home to a cast-off of the irresponsible by adopting from an animal shelter. I just wish there was some way to punish the irresponsible for dumping their pets at animal shelters...or worse, on the streets.
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pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 13, 2009 09:31 AM
Eleanore, you took the words right out of my mouth. Jwhop.. I feel the same way about PETA. Sadly enough they have euthanized more than their fair share of animals (secretly) which got out not too long ago. Big Hypocrits! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7990 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2009 09:39 AM
*bump*------------------ "I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7990 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2009 09:17 PM
------------------ "I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7990 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 01, 2010 12:22 PM
*bump*------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7990 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2011 12:12 PM
------------------ "Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all." Harriet Van Horne IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7990 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 29, 2011 11:24 AM
*bump*------------------ "All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 3334 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 29, 2011 01:37 PM
I haven't changed my mind about PETA nor about the unethical "puppy mill" breeders.One of the good things is that we don't hear much from PETA or even about PETA these days. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7990 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 30, 2011 11:52 AM
------------------ "All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7990 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2011 01:47 PM
Haven't heard anything from PETA in some time.------------------ "Everything I eat has been proved by some doctor or other to be a deadly poison, and everything I don't eat has been proved to be indispensable for life. But I go marching on."--George Bernard Shaw IP: Logged |