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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 10, 2002 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Knowflakes...I don't know what to do. I figure someone here might be willing to listen, since I can't seem to find anyone around me at home who will....
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11/10/02

What the hell?
Why won’t they help?
Unless I say
I’ll kill myself
Then everyone runs
To prevent tragedy
But till then it’s only
A problem I tackle futilely

I can’t deal
I want out now
The trigger will get teased
The knife threatened
Not because
They’re real ideas,
But because
They can be seen

My mind overloads
And anxiety overheats
Tears are the only friend
Who want to deal with my scraps
All other beings
Are silently astray
Absorbed in their drama
They can’t look my way

Why aren’t I serious?
In the eyes of the world
I spin frantically in the depths
I prayed were long gone
I banished those eons ago
Why do they still linger?
Dangling on to spoil
What I had hoped was success

Spine-crushing anguish
The Ego was slain
Nothing remains to evidence
What might have been fully sane
A normalcy I found
And tried hard to keep
Giving pulp I didn’t have
In vain, I slid down again too deep

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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MARY
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posted November 11, 2002 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MARY     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Artist,
If these are your true feeling, I am sorry for you pain. I have felt that way before, it is a horrible feeling.
Do you want healing?
Try reading Essential Energy Balancing: Diane Stein
The book is wonderful, she says we can heal all pain.
When I felt that way I couldn't even trust anyone around me. So if you can not trust, how do you talk to them?
Sending Love Light and Healing!

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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 11, 2002 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Mary. These are my true feelings cause I think I've been in an out of depression for the last four or five years, and it's a daily battle I fight to stay above it.
I will try to get ahold of the book you reccomended. I do want healing because I can't go through this up and down torture for a lifetime... I'm also thinking of trying to ge that mixture of liquid herb that Linda Goodman suggests in Star signs for my personal health number. I've yet to find any outlet of healing thus far besides writing dark depressing poety, but it's no longer enough.
Appeciate your response, and the light you sent.

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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Hopeful
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posted November 11, 2002 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
VAA - We all go through struggles but yours seems to be unduly long and hard. Creativity and fresh air help me. and light for you...

Hopeful

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Aphrodite
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posted November 11, 2002 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hello Virgo-AriesArtist,

i just wanted to express to you how much i enjoy reading your work. thank you for posting them on the website. sometimes i would like to read more of your previous work, but can't seem to find them because they are on single threads. would you mind creating a single thread and posting them all on there? that way they are all together as a collection. it's a beautiful way to see how people grow.

i also write poetry to express my deep feelings. there is something musical, ebbing and comforting about making words dance on paper. it's like an epiphany being able to scribe letters that sing out what we feel.

i am currenty reading Ovid, Horace, Borges, and Cattullus.

are you seeking professional help for your depression? it is never a sign of weakness or defeat to enlist in the help of someone who would be able to help guide us to a healthy state---physically, mentally, and emotionally.

i believe you are worth all the joys the universe has to offer. it is something for someone to believe and expect in you, but you have to know it for yourself too.

aphrodite

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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 11, 2002 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks much, Hopeful and Aphrodite.

It's funny you should ask about my previous works because I just recently felt inspired to begin putting all my poetry together in some form of chronological order. I have a bad habit of writing on whatever material happens to be nearby when the urge to express myself comes, so as you can imagine, it's scattered all over the place. If you'd like, I can mail you (snail or e-mail) you a copy of it once I've gotten it put in a semblence of organization, which should be finished soon.

Yes, it is an awesome feeling to be able to put words together that express and make sense of inner emotions.

I did seek professional help for a while, but then my schedule of the last few months made appointments almost impossible to keep. Life, activity-wise has slowed down, so I'm keeping return to it as a viable solution for the future. But see, it seems when I have the chance to talk it out each week with a skilled person, major things aren't going wrong, so it feels like a waste of time, yet the times when I don't have that resource are the only times when issues that need dealing with come up.

I know it will come down to whther I believe good things about myself... Yet it's so darn hard having that confidence and self-esteem when so many people are making me feel inferior and bringing me down with their hurtful words.
I will get through it, that much I know cause my :Aries: rising won;t let me give up on anything, myself included.

Thanks for your support. It means more than you can realize.

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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theFajita
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posted November 12, 2002 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
Hey VIrgoaries Artist,
I can't find the right words to say that I just want to hug you and give you hope! I really am sad to hear you feel this way, I know those feelings very well. I admit, I take lithium for 6 years now, but sometimes I forget to take my doses, and the more I forget, the more I don't feel like taking them, and then in between my highs, I feel so awful, so worthless and sad and disgusted and hopeless and small. I am not saying you need medication or anything, i am just saying I do know how you feel. I also am in a relationship that has had a lot of abuse and that only makes me smile on the outside while i feel like I am dying on the inside.

I have over come drug addiction and other forms of self destruction, but you know what, I still struggle with those feelings. Well I rambled but (((hugs))) and love and light.

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juniperb
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posted November 12, 2002 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
VAA, I`m sorry to hear your so down. I can feel your pain in your beautiful poetry.
A wonderful book filled with so much hope is: In Tune With the Infinite by Ralph Waldo Trine. It will teach/guide you to become master of yours-elf and in harmony with the universe ( & that includes our families ). Please try to locate the book & give it a try. I got mine off amazon but many libraries carry it.

Grandma is still in my prayers; how is she doing??
juniperb

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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 13, 2002 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Juniper,
Gram's been home for a few weeks now, and seems to be back to her old pre-illness self. The cancer had been eating away at her red blood cell count, and that was the reason she had been feeling the fatigue we were all attributing to old age. We should have known better cause she's always been so acive and full of life. It is nice to see her feeling hers-Elf again. Thanks for asking!

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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juniperb
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posted November 13, 2002 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Wonderful news VAA
Hug her for me juniperb

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Worldly Man's Advocate
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posted November 13, 2002 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worldly Man's Advocate     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to hear about your depression; I also go through that. You know what gets me out? I just observe myself. I just watch what’s passing through the mind. It’s very interesting, because you sort of have to step outside of yourself, and then you start to wonder: but if I can step outside me, then what is me?

I try to puzzle out what brought those bad feelings – there’s almost always a specific cause for a general bad feeling. I don’t try to judge it at all – I just look at it and think, WHY? Not as in ‘What’s wrong with me’, mind you – just, why, what is there in me that allows this to bother me? And always, always, I find out something new about myself; something I never suspected was there. It makes me scurry to my writing desk and I fill whole pages with the new things I discovered.

And the moment I gain that, I feel, ‘Well! That was useful! I still feel pretty crap ) – but I didn’t waste my time going through all that.’ Sometimes I had those kinds of suicidal feelings… and then I thought, No Way! It’s much more interesting being like this. How interesting would it be if everything went smoothly, all the time. How unfortunate are the fortunate – they never got to look this deeply into themselves. Plus, we get some great poetry out of it, heheheheh! Worth the price, yes?

‘May you live in interesting times!’ [ancient Buddhist proverb]

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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 19, 2002 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
No, not exactly worth the price today.
I don't waste time right now analyzing...The pain too all consuming, devouring... And it has hit me again last night, I cried until I fell asleep.

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted March 08, 2003 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
bringing to top...

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Hopeful
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posted March 11, 2003 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
VAA - I remember this one. I hope things are going better for you now.

Hopeful

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theFajita3
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posted March 12, 2003 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
Hey VAA hows it going now?

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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted March 12, 2003 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for asking. At the moment, things are better, but then again, I'm now diagnosed with Anxiety Disorder and on meds for it. It has taken away my inborn perfectionistic drive from every project, but let me live more in the present.

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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