posted June 02, 2015 12:10 PM            

Silence unifies, language divides
The quieter, the more understanding.

Maybe I'm learning quiet
Though internally the words keep ticking
and tracking the whispers.

And the words feel the weight of the bridging they do
Between the ethereal Source and the world
Though the world is so desperate only because
it's cluttered with broken bridges.

Maybe.

posted June 02, 2015 02:56 PM            

"Magic is real...and what happens next?
Intimacy........and what next?"

and

"Silence unifies, language divides"

posted June 02, 2015 04:06 PM            

LL-Faith quote:
"We're all just looking for a
mathematically convincing reality."
... We can look and fidget all we want with the papers, calculations, shapes. But the reality happens when we stop, and put these minds aside to clear.

In these Moments, when we pause and look into live faces, we do quietly connect with real-eyes and look beyond those walls into the mirrored depths of Being. There's a soul there~~ beyond any words.

LL-Faith quote:
"And the words feel the weight of the bridging they do
Between the ethereal Source and the world
Though the world is so desperate only because it's cluttered with broken bridges."
... I really LOVE this imagery!

... Time to begin-again. Afresh. New starts. New beginnings. We work and labor and do it 'together'... with cleared mind and forgiven hearts. Re-infusions come, of the quiet Joy~~ it wells back up again as we toil.

Hearts that are together start to re-build Better structures where the wasted-places were. There are no real losses because we know and feel the Eternal. We are only-Human. Time resets its material-clocks. But we know every Secret in ourselves exposed.

Love. Love is what is there. It is core. It is source. Sorrows to disperse in Its Shared Stillnesses.

posted June 02, 2015 11:18 PM            

You girls are too kind. Thank you.

mirage I am grooving to this song. It's beautiful.

Thank you for all that you wrote that makes me feel like you understand and can follow me in my quirky language. You know it means a lot.

Sometimes I get a little hopeless lately, to be honest, but I try and be grateful for everything.

posted June 03, 2015 08:58 PM            

Since we are psyche-partofFortune connected, and your Vertex on my NorthNode, I'm going to 'take the risk and opportunity' and trust that we have crossed paths for a variety of soothing fortuitous reasons.

Yes, you're having another visit to your natal Pluto, so things are going to feel like they are repeating, once more. PLUS gnarly tChiron OPP tBML operating double-whammies(?) for you.... My HEART is fully with you.... Know and posture yourself in advance that you're gonna be alright, Faith.

Have what your name means... Have Faith that you'll be Fine.

Oh no, I just thought of that anachronism... You probably have heard it before.... (effedup, insecure, neurotic, and 'whatever you want that 'e' to designate' for you! ).

But for sure, we have formed some group-supports and feeling of safety here, and with all my might, (and if YOU help ME too), we're gonna make it out of our gnarly times BETTER than we ever thought we'd be able to do.

Remember, that none of us are doing this alone, but that you have another set of eyes, in each one of us. We each may blink-on, blink-off depending on what's happening briefly I hope in our own life, but "let's decide" consciously to hold each other in Loving Support, no matter what.

Faith, you and I both have our 4762 Dobrynya in our (different zodiac) 10th House. I strongly have suspicions that ONE of the meanings of this asteroid may be an indicator of perhaps becoming someone's scape-goat. (ty, and validations to MAH's observations)

The 10th House is a very Public house. While others get to have their own meltdowns more privately, we get to have the eyes of the world on us. (you me). We're using our 11th and 10th Houses here at LL, PLUS, we BOTH have our Suns in the 'House of Servant-Leadership'.... Our trials may be harsher. Certainly, our incredibly-breaking traumas were {{hug}}.

I believe we (in this thread) all have points that touch all the galactic and universal spots.... and that's kinda cool and indicative of our joint-purposes here. *heart*

So anyways! Transiting Dobrynya has just crossed your MC and will be meeting itself (eventually) in your chart, midway through that house. t Dobrynya through Taurus, COULD be in its own opposition by the time it gets to your/its natal degree... (There's a calculating ephemeris site you can visit, to get the rundown on its movements.)

This asteroid-return could possibly relay a message about a need to "protect your boundaries" in advance of its meeting. Be aware of where, and who you relate with and Serve doing it with "conscious." Also has another meaning of possibly of "becoming the victim of gossip!"

~~I've definitely been visited there myself recently, with all the transiting moon's nodes exactly there, and within these past few weeks had transiting Dobrynya Aries 'oppose' its own self here. Ouch! ... I've had 'reputation' transits before? but THIS ONE was abnormally fierce, with the NODES involved! You want to talk about powerful eclipse-energies too? That's another one for my book, right? (j/k)

And Faith, you had some sky-action going on there too (including hits to your Dobrynya).

God doesn't waste trouble-- He USES it so efficiently to refine ALL of us. We are EACH equipped, and when we know and work through things 'as a Team,' then we all make it out and say it was Adventure! And we've come out with even more treasures inside. True spiritual test of leadership is when you find your strengths~ and every seeming weakness exposed. And we all get to experience those kinds of things, eventually.

These are the kinds of transits where 'for slices of time' you may suddenly realize you can magic-see others plainly from behind the dark-glass.

Stay Kind-hearted, Faith. Treat your self with Kindhearted energy as well. Stay as positive and as gentle openly-honest as you can be...

posted June 04, 2015 06:14 PM            

I'm personally thrilled to see you write here. I've admired your writings since I came to LL. You have a gift.

BTW, I "posted" on your Pluto thread in Astrology 2.0. Your threads are awesome rich in quality. .... And I love how you handle interference too. No bs around.

posted June 04, 2015 09:31 PM            

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a stark reality you need to experience or know emerges amid the rubble when the debris (impending thoughts) finally clear, or so have been my experiences.

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Some of my experiences have been like that too. Others well....why do I "need" to lose people I love? I needed them.

Stark, as a raw material, is hard to work with.

Thanks for the hug.

@Ayelet ~ I was talking about fakeness because it's the counterpoint to Plutonian realness, I thought....but the more I thought about it, there isn't such a thing as fakeness. I was talking about beauty because I think that stands as an elemental, important, mysterious virtue. Not so much the beauty we are born with but the beauty we create or bring to the world.

You said, "I don't think everything changes." And I like that. The saying is, nothing's permanent except change, but I don't have to adopt something as true, just because there is a saying. Hmm!

@mirage ~ I feel like every time we talk, I'm like, "Oops! there go the tears again..." Thanks so much for spoiling me with all of this. I have so much to say and so little time, and the truth is, I kinda want your words to stay unremarked-upon, since YOUR meaning is what's coolest, not my reaction. But still, I do need to say some things, and will catch up more fully soon.

I have been trying to rectify my chart, and the ASCs that work best are 6, 7, and 9 Leo. I found my father's birth time recently which I never thought I would get (!!!) but my grandmother (whose sun is conjunct yours), God bless her, she wrote everything down and somehow it ended up in my paperwork. It turns out his moon is at 6 Leo. Husband's sun at 7 Leo. I think my ASC is squished in there.

I don't know anything about Dobrynya but (*lowers voice*) I've heard about how LL gossip circulates on FB and I wouldn't drop dead of shock if I got some bad publicity. I'm not all sweetness and light, ya know. LOL

I hope the troubles you have faced are resolved or resolving? How could anyone not like you ~ you're so cool.

I love poetry and SHOULD spend more time in this subforum. I tried to leave LL for longer, I thought a year would be good, but here I am....still with one foot out the door, to be honest. But one day at a time!

LOL about my bs rant, you caught that? It was badly articulated, I probably sound different than I am....it's just this "rage against the machine." Thanks for your comment on the Pluto thread --will see you there later, too -- and thanks for liking how I dealt with, ahem, interference. I try to laugh things off.

Much love to you all and thanks so much for the welcome back.

posted June 05, 2015 08:11 AM            

You know, we could probably talk forever, so don't feel any pressure to respond to this ~ I don't want to hog your time.

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Since we are psyche-partofFortune connected, and your Vertex on my NorthNode

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I love that and *hope* my Vertex is on your NN, POF on your sun. It'd be an honor.

In continuation of what I was saying above, there's a lot of overlapping between my father and husband, that I had *no* idea about when I got married, because I only knew sun sign astrology then. Turns out my father's ASC was 22 Sag, exactly conjunct my husband's draconic sun...with a 7 Leo ASC, my Vertex is at 23 Sag. I like how that lines up. My POF would be 5 Gemini then, still hugging your sun.

My MC would be 25 Aries, conjunct my Chiron. Well damn, who wants that??? LOL

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Originally posted by mirage29:
... so things are going to feel like they are repeating, once more.

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Wow. Yes. Things DO feel like they are repeating and I complained a few months ago that my life feels like this:

Repeating Motion

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Originally posted by mirage29:
PLUS gnarly tChiron OPP tBML operating double-whammies(?) for you.... My HEART is fully with you.... Know and posture yourself in advance that you're gonna be alright, Faith.

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On my moon! Yeah, I've learned to respect those two. Thanks for the encouragement, mirage.

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Originally posted by mirage29:
But for sure, we have formed some group-supports and feeling of safety here, and with all my might, (and if YOU help ME too), we're gonna make it out of our gnarly times BETTER than we ever thought we'd be able to do.

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I'd love that, and I never underestimate the value of an online community, just bear with me if my attendance is sporadic. I didn't even mean to come back to LL yet. I'm here in spirit whether I'm here in text or not.

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Remember, that none of us are doing this alone, but that you have another set of eyes, in each one of us. We each may blink-on, blink-off depending on what's happening briefly I hope in our own life, but "let's decide" consciously to hold each other in Loving Support, no matter what.

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I was just thinking something like this yesterday. Well I've gotten more support than I really anticipated over this bit-of-trouble Pluto is giving me, and it was one of those moments where you think, "How could I have forgotten? People are good. They want to help each other, they'll even help me."

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Originally posted by mirage29:
The 10th House is a very Public house. While others get to have their own meltdowns more privately, we get to have the eyes of the world on us. (you me).

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Never saw you have a meltdown, dear. Hard times experienced in eloquence, yes. Meltdown, no.

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
We're using our 11th and 10th Houses here at LL, PLUS, we BOTH have our Suns in the 'House of Servant-Leadership'.... Our trials may be harsher. Certainly, our incredibly-breaking traumas were {{hug}}.

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So true....though I think your life has been harder than mine, and I want to say, No, if there's sympathy to be found anywhere, it goes to you. Truth is, there isn't a limited supply of compassion.

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Originally posted by mirage29:
I believe we (in this thread) all have points that touch all the galactic and universal spots.... and that's kinda cool and indicative of our joint-purposes here. *heart*

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So cool that you took notice and I love that phrase you chose. Joint-purposes. Got the chills from that.

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
t Dobrynya through Taurus, COULD be in its own opposition by the time it gets to your/its natal degree... (There's a calculating ephemeris site you can visit, to get the rundown on its movements.)

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Serennu.com?

Tr Dobrynya 1 Taurus (on my moon-Mars and Mercury-Saturn midpoints at 2 Taurus)
Natal Dobrynya 14 Taurus

Maybe I shouldn't have read the backstory at wikipedia, it's pretty freaky!

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Vasily Tatishchev wrote that Dobrynya, along with Bishop Ioakim Korsunianin, faced a violent, pagan mob which burned Dobrynya's house and killed his wife and several other family members.[2]

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YIKES!

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Originally posted by mirage29:
This asteroid-return could possibly relay a message about a need to "protect your boundaries" in advance of its meeting. Be aware of where, and who you relate with and Serve doing it with "conscious." Also has another meaning of possibly of "becoming the victim of gossip!"

You want to talk about powerful eclipse-energies too? That's another one for my book, right? (j/k)

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I would love to read the book, actually. I mean, seriously, mirage.

I hope it wasn't too bad for you.

I'll try and keep that in mind about boundaries. I suck at boundaries. Pisces moon square Neptune; tr Neptune square Neptune. What are boundaries?

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
God doesn't waste trouble-- He USES it so efficiently to refine ALL of us.

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I've thought so.

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
These are the kinds of transits where 'for slices of time' you may suddenly realize you can magic-see others plainly from behind the dark-glass.

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Mmmm.....

Story: Once I was having coffee with a friend of mine who is a counselor. She told me that she thinks I'm an HSP - Highly Sensitive Person. I asked her why she thought that, and she said, "You're very intuitive." I said, "I am????" She told me that I picked up a lot about her without her ever having said anything. I was astonished. That was news to me.

Point is, if I'm seeing inside of people, I'm not realizing it.

Oh but occasionally I have psychic dreams! And just for the record I had a dream last night that one of my LL friends, who is really pregnant, gave birth. I wonder if she indeed just gave birth.

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Stay Kind-hearted, Faith. Treat your self with Kindhearted energy as well. Stay as positive and as gentle openly-honest as you can be...
And remember how well-loved you are!

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Thank you and ditto, mirage! We need Randall to upgrade so we can stuff more hearts into our posts without being rejected. LOL

posted June 05, 2015 04:23 PM            

Great song, RAC Repeating-Motion.

Keep track of 10 Hygeia... it's ON your ascendant birth/prog/Solar Arc Chart right now. (I am very very new to SA. So just wanted to point out the Hygeia to your Asc. Maybe it can help with your rectification? .... I watch this asteroid because it trines my Sun exact, from the 10th House. That's how I found it in yours.)

((I know how 'creepy' it can feel that I'd been looking at your chart from time to time, so I evened things out for you (and anyone else interested) by including my own birthdata below. I'd posted it a couple times in the early days here for me.))

I'm having one of those ~vibey hot type days in the 'hood right now. So, I might not be making a whole lot of organized and ordered-sense, okay ....

If you noticed, I've been awake and posting at night in the wee hours of day recently because it was "actually" soft and very silent here. ~~ With that, I did NOT want to 'waste' the excellent opportunity to visit and post things with substance, in the "luxury" of having that ideal sonic-environmental-space.

[/edit/] 6/6 138a

read my book?... I don't have one, Faith. I was j/k (just kidding?). I have some pieces of my story in posts I've shared here.

So anyways!.... I'll come back to edit my mess, haha. I don't mind if the core people have my chart. I would LOVE your input on my chart, from time-to-time, when and whatever place you'd think it appropriate!

With you Faith? I just had a 'hunch' about that particular asteroid and you. That's how I found out. Thanks for the wiki ref!

Actually, I think it's 'what you said'.... That we need to see people separate from all the maths of the charts. Yes, we are interested learners. However, we live in a REAL world too. Being compassionate (and NOT so literal on these asteroids especially!!!) is very important. Many mistakes can happen when things are too-literally taken (~ look at all the controversy in the religious worlds, for example.)

No.... We are humans. We're here to learn Love in the laboratory of Relationships.

posted June 05, 2015 10:00 PM            

Tr Pluto was on my 15 Cap sun, but I see it's slipped back to 14 Cap now.
I also have 16 Aries Jupiter, 16 Gemini Mars.

What's it hitting for you?

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Hi mirage!

Thanks so much again. I was being GOOFY when I said that anyone who looks at my chart is a creeper. I love that you look at my chart. And anyone I like can look at my chart to their heart's content.

And I'll look at yours! Gotta see where your Elvis is. hehehe

I've been to the town where you were born.

I don't get much peace and quiet lately, either, as my house is always busy. It's busy even now. But I'll be back soon!

Have a good night, anyone who's reading.

PS Sorry about your migraine, mirage, but that was a very good joke you made of it.

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PPS Oh! Looking at your chart ~ you have Jupiter-Uranus! Trine my Pallas, and on my draconic moon. Makes a lot of sense, actually.

Your Elvis is conjunct my Pallas at 26 Pisces. Your Elvis trine your Jupiter, so this expands your Elvis Consciousness of course. Nearby...your asteroid 436 is conjunct my moon. It's like you had that spot reserved for me, right near Elvis!
Transiting Elvis is at 10 Pisces conjunct transiting Neptune. Appropriate bedfellows.

Chiron-Pholus on my Mercury you've seen. I had no idea but yeah I it makes so much sense I feel like I just did some drugs.

We have BML trine BML. And both with BML-ASC. The coolness is unimpeachable!

You inspire me to pay around with words (my Mercury telling opposing Saturn to scram while it funks out to the Uranus square) and to look at asteroids. See, I love you. Loosening up and looking at the stars. Doesn't get much better than this.

posted June 06, 2015 09:20 AM            

Do you?

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mirage,

posted June 07, 2015 06:29 PM            

Oh, BTW .... Our "composite Sun" is 26+ Pisces.... Shining-out and connecting through that ELVIS!!!!*???

Looked up yVesta trine mJupiter aspect (DemetraGeorge/Bloch) ...a spiritual devotion. Vesta trine Uranus innovative and intuitive ideas, pursuit of occult studies, new political, spiritual, and revolutionary visions.
[add: oops, I think I got that wrong? will look it up tomorrow... It's the Moon you have in Pisces. Gotta make sure your chart is in front of me... wincing]

Laughing, we probably belonged to a monastery in previous life, where Elvis was the Reverend-Mother of the House of Universal Loving Connections.

{uggh... There's some super-deep plunking loud pulsing bass-speakers percussions going on. Got through their parties yesterday *another star for day-to-day making it through the sonics* ... I have no silence-closet to physically crawl into when they decide to really go fer it as they often do--Am feeling the actual body-soreness of it today. I'll climb back on top by tomorrow~ God willin' crick don't rise.}

So, it feels like I'm trying to talk in chopped-up staccato phrases here a lot of times...I strive now to make those sentences flow more smoothly. Using more words...

I saw your Beautiful comment to me at your alien-Pluto thread. (thankyou)

Don't stop, Faith. Keep on keepin' our faith-Faith-faith. Your self-expressions are bringing people out of their shells, and fostering a feeling that people are not alone in their feelings. That's an important gift, Faith (in case you didn't know).

posted June 08, 2015 01:27 AM            

@mirage:

Funniest thing I've read in a long time:

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Laughing, we probably belonged to a monastery in previous life, where Elvis was the Reverend-Mother of the House of Universal Loving Connections.

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SO TRUE!!! I'm glad you remember that far back or I might've forgotten.

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Oh, BTW .... Our "composite Sun" is 26+ Pisces.... Shining-out and connecting through that ELVIS!!!!*???

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Heheheheh. I need to check our composite Mr Rogers too.

Thanks for saying I'm a genius who helps people feel less alone, you know I kinda strive for that, but you know I usually feel like a true weirdo fumbling around in the dark, trying to get my hands on sanity. Thanks for seeing it in a happier light.

I so, soooo wish I could order a rescue mission to get you far away from all that noise pollution. Hate to think of it. What an awful situation.

I'm going to let this thread drop outta sight, it's been at the top too long.

posted June 09, 2015 02:06 PM            

What an honor that your GM is same bd as me. Is that Pgm or Mgm? Our cJupiter Gemini 6+ and cMars 24+ Gemini. Isn't this a wonder and fantastic to prove astrology under these sky transits right now? Our cMoon is Sag 21+!(has houses as 3+9... hey, that's 12 isn't it... *just being silly, after such a hard day yesterday). Grand trine transit right now involving Pallas (my re-return) with Jupiter and Uranus! Our cNODES Sag/Gem 8.14 has cJupiter there! So much fun finding out what other people's charts are!

I'm using 'stacatto' phrases today, okay?

Yesterday.... I "literally" thought I was going to die. My physical body nervous system was completely overwhelmed.... I ran outside at one point, and saw in the sky TWO RAINBOWS!! *Hold on to HOPE! Good things are coming. Don't give up!*

I was glad you had left the compliment to me about being a role model? .... because it helped me be stronger. I didn't "feel" like a role model yesterday. I was cringing in every despair imaginable 'under' the kryptonite of toxic vibeys! When that happens I wouldn't been able to find my way out the front door if it were wide-open with a herald of shining trumpets blasting, Faith... Just want you to know again, your posts have had a profound helpful effect.

/e

Be back with a song.... {I'm back, and the 'hood starting up again a bit here too, so gotta put my silicone earplugs back in, and be brief. } (sorry if the post is a mess)

Okay, I'm back. .... Big difference between yesterday and today in the "sonics." Yesterday was indescribable. Well actually? the words would just describe sheer-hell.

I've used up too many posts to describe that already. I'm glad that at least 'a few' people realize the 'reality' of my situ. It brings me comfort, if anything else. But hey!!~~ Eternal optimist here. It may occasionally temporarily steal my joy and rob me (and others) of the opportunity to be "blessed" by songs when my OWN reality is WAY too smooshed.

Seems my p-Moon Sagittarius will continue to be sorta 'oppressed' for a while by t'Saturn-rx, then as it moves forwards too. That means I'll have to fight the narrow poverty-mindset, in order to manifest reality here. I use self-talk when I become conscious of it, and remind myself that it's probably NOT as totally bad and trashed as 'I feel'.... although, to keep my countenance lifted, I MUST MUST MUST MUST 'remain' in the magic-moments of possibility-thinking here, if I'm to (even literally) remain alive and be able to birth more things from my soul.

Being funny here, yet ... /e

ugh!!! gotta go. take tielenols, go for a walk, rummage through more things to toss, scrub a few more bathroom fixtures with a toothbrush and some vinegar to get rid of crusty mineral-stuff.

Thanks for putting up with my ~zany posting today. arrhhh, my BODY needs a break! It is an AWESOME tool to possess a BIG HUGE sense of humor.... gonna go Broadway here with some *drama* of that! LOL

Here's a "nice" Mister Roger's song, Faith. You know that I Love You too.... {{HUGE marvelous HUG for you today!}}