posted April 08, 2017 07:21 AM            

sometimes to leave something behind, you have to leave so much of yourself too. Like belief, when you believed so much, more than in yourself. And the rocky formation you can't stay in. You unhook your heart, all it holds, and place it there, where you cannot fit, where you won't fit. Desire itself makes a discomfort.

So when I face the mountain again I don't just leave behind belief and desire for one thing but for all things.

You are climbing with just bare hands, every surface is unforgiveness and besides what's there to climb for.

Now, walk around the base
Then, let the nights and days fall

posted April 08, 2017 02:16 PM            

I could have shaped some things with your words... but then, it would make it more into MY expression-meaning, than yours.

Don't be afraid to experiment with it.
Maybe Pearlty has some wisdoms with how to do that, too!

As far as the philosophy there,
I understand what you mean by the Desire nature. It causes Attachments. Attachments can form behaviors. Behaviors are the way we overtly interact with people. We have Experiences with Others.

You really gently don't have to blame yourself for everything that goes wrong in relationships. Sometimes? it just 'happens'? *see last url*

And we are 'human' ...

When avalanches of Life occur, it can feel as though we are thrown many stumbling-blocks. ... Variations of this phrase has been used quite often but--- we can re-purpose any stumbling-blocks that occur, and turn them into stepping-stones.

Yes yes yes... Forgiveness. It can be one of the hardest things to do.

(humor) Ayelet ... I swear, we channel the same info!
*big big hug to you Ayelet*

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Love

(music) Love Lifts Us Up Where We Belong (Joe Cocker & Jennifer Warnes) [3:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2y7woasr_s

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I grew up in a very abusive household. I felt blamed for anything and everything that ever went wrong. There was a lack of rewards, trickery, and lots of shunning. My mom behaved as 'a hater' and extremely conditional. She "actually" admitted to me in later life that she deliberately fed me lies about everything (you can imagine) "because" she didn't like me. She caused deliberate confusion of 'facts' and I HAD to keep track of them (or suffer dire consequences). Much cruelty.
.. She "told" me all those things, admitting it, because she 'decided' finally that she liked me (as an adult) then.
.. Soon after, we parted ways for the rest of our lifetimes. That was over 20s years ago now. It is "a void" to not have a family or people who accept me 'as I am', and upon whom I can rely for good counsel and support in life. ... But it was one of the best mental health decisions I had ever made for myself. The whole family was/is quite dysfunctional. (And from the last I've heard, they were all infected by that spirit of an almost vile Hatred).

oh my! *smiling* I've been having a long-term tChiron opp my Moon transit... tChiron Pisces will go retro, and backwards exact to my Moon again by end of year, before it turns around and enters Aries next year. ... my 4th House???? oh nooooo! Natural Mom issues again??? ROFLMAO

Actually, emotionally, I HAVE been doing very well with forgiving my mom. haha, Venus-retro and tChiron Pisces have been energizing her name-asteroid in my chart.
(just an extra-curious phenomena)
(I can use my asteroids for healing purposes.)

* I will delete the asterisk portion above later.... *

*NO WHOLE quote*

But I WILL retain this URL for all of us.

posted April 08, 2017 06:27 PM            

Thank you again

posted April 08, 2017 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
I think it is a poem, and it sounds a very deep one too.
Have you been asking what is there to climb for? I'm not sure I got it.
What are you left with to climb? What are your 'bare hands'? Do you still hold any faith?
Very thought-provoking.

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I was picturing a series of crevices leading up through the mountain and the climbing as the task of .. Getting over something but I realise I didn't really get that in here. Helps me hone in on it, that you ask those questions.

posted April 09, 2017 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Pearlty:
I like your thoughts as they are Florence,
any way you let them flow is releasing and beautiful

"So when I face the mountain again I don't just leave behind belief and desire for one thing but for all things."

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I agree 100%