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StarLover33
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posted January 14, 2003 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
I'm telling you the worst thing they always tend to do is give DATES.

I mean they're always wrong...it's so weird...maybe becuase time is just irrelavant and Psychics don't realize, that time just doesn't exist.
For instance Ruth Montgomery is probably one of the best know psychics and in her books she gave dates as to when the poles would shift or cataclysmic events would occur. She placed them in the late 90's which was obviosly a mistake. Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus, and Sylvia Browne all made the same stupid mistake, which always undermines there legitimacy.

This annoys me... prophecies should never and I mean never have dates on them...

Why do you think that happens for them?

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Quinnie
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posted January 14, 2003 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe it's because Psychics see these events happening over a period of time beginning on the date they give.
Maybe because they are seeing symbols and the dates are actually symbolic of something rather than then just being actual dates.
But I think perhaps because we see things in such a material way we can misunderstand what comes from a psychic or they can be a little off beat too, especially if Uranus is a big influence in their chart!!!
or maybe they are just

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Randall
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posted January 15, 2003 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I agree.

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Randall
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posted January 16, 2003 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
With both of you.

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raj_105_2001
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posted January 16, 2003 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
If I want to be psychic, I would start a Magazine/Newspaper and announce I had already predicted all the events that happened. Nobody would bother that publisher and psychic are same person. I will take care.

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Aselzion
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posted March 16, 2003 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Well.. hrmmm. I'd have to say that there is NO TIME... so what psychics are sensing is a PROBABLE TIME LINE.

They get a sense that sometghing is coming.. and then have to filter it through their tool.. the PHYSICAL body, which wants to relate things in LINEAR TIME, becaue that is what the Physical Body is here to do... anchor us into a linear time frame.. until, like the baby leaving the playpen, we no longer need it!

So.. they will be wrong. Perhaps having made the prediction, someone (read WE) CHOSE to avert the predicted event, and so it doesn't happen.

Remember the greatest Gift that God gave us (beside LOVE) is Free Will.. and that can really futz up a prediction!

Peace and Light...
A

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Meili Zhiwei
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posted July 06, 2003 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meili Zhiwei     Edit/Delete Message
Peace Aselzion, Raj, Randall, Quinnie, and StarLover.

My apologies for replying to an older message, pehaps interst has now waned? A contemplation theme is offered, should there still be interest.

Perhaps the Messages from the "psychics" are distorted.

Peace
Meili

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Randall
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posted July 07, 2003 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Feel free to pull up any of our "ancient" strings that pique your interest.

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juniperb
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posted July 09, 2003 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Meili, 'distorted' is a excellent choice of word. The illusion of time causes a great distortion and helps create the physical reality which we live in; dates, numbers,and personal interpretations et al. Among many other reasons, free will or the spiritual developement of the entity sharing the prophesy. In a hurry, so I hope it makes sense

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Aselzion
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posted July 09, 2003 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Having practiced as an astrologer and reader of the Tarot, I do believe that it is possible to make accurate predictions that are both meaningful and helpful to the client.

In terms of giving dates, that is where Astrology alone excels. Tarot, I believe can show a relative time frame, i.e. a particular season or even an elemental influence such as Fire, Earth, Air, Water, and sometimes it can show the nature of an event that will transpire quickly more exactly than that; but as a rule I have made accurate predictions that were 2 years ahead of time with Tarot... so alot depends on the innate ability of the reader to sense time, and also again, the Free Will of the client.

What we see are specific timelines that are in effect if all things remain as they currently are. When an individual somehow makes a choice or changes something, that of necessity will alter and possibly eliminate that timeline. (if that makes any sense) And that will of course change the outcome of the prediction.

As I say, I think astrology ranks supreme in timing... we KNOW the movements of the planets etc., these are predictable, so they tend to be much more accurate in terms of specific timing.

Hope that helps a bit.

Blessings...
A

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Meili Zhiwei
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posted July 09, 2003 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meili Zhiwei     Edit/Delete Message
Peace Juniperb and Aselzion.

In addition to the elements that the two of you so correctly ascertained, I would suggest also a contemplation of the entities that are responsible for transmitting future events. There is a Teaching that not all that originates from the other dimension is “holy”. The Teaching further suggests that some entities do quite enjoy distorting messages to create confusion.

In spite of Linda’s abundant optimism and purity, I suspect she was quite well aware of this no so nice aspect of Reality. It was clearly not within her mission to expound on such topics, although negative realities may have touched her personal life quite directly. Psychics themselves may not be at all aware that they are “instruments” of confusion and discord. If we presume to act as instruments of light then is it not safe to accept that there are also instruments of darkness?

Peace
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Aselzion
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posted July 09, 2003 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings Meili...

Well, that there are negative people out there, and negative energies, I have no doubt. However, I do believe that if we are attuned to that wee small voice within, we can tell the difference between what information is channeled from the Light, and that which is not.

When we see a psychic, or when we hear guidance for ourselves, the key is that the REAL thing will never be phrased in a demeaning or pejorative way. All guidance from the Light will come in terms that offer hope, guidance and choices... that which is not of the Light will come through in more negative or frightening or in some way, less than positive "tones".

Make any sense?

In the Light...
A

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Meili Zhiwei
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posted July 09, 2003 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meili Zhiwei     Edit/Delete Message
Peace Aselzion.

I am reminded of a story from the Master Rumi. A pious, holy man was sleeping. He woke suddenly when a cat entered the room and brushed him. Seeing the time, the man realized that he needed to hurry in order to arrive for morning prayer.

Returning to his room later, he felt something amiss. It was revealed to him that the cat was actually Satan in disguise. He summoned the entity and demanded and explanation as to why Satan had engaged in an obviously righteous act (i.e. waking him in time for prayer). Satan made many long, rational explanations that were quite reasonable. The pious man was not able to ascertain the Truth of the situation and begged God to force Satan to reveal the Real reason for the seemingly righteous act.

Satan, compelled by God, replied,

“I knew that, had you missed morning prayer, you would have offered one hundred prayers of contrition. I “gave” you that one prayer and prevented the one hundred.”

I would submit that there are times when the good or bad of a thing are not entirely clear. Vigilance is not a word that is often used in this New Age, but it is always an activity of one who is Awake. Of course, sleep has its own beauty and the dreams can be quite pleasant. Please accept my apologies if I have disturbed your rest.

Peace
Meili

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juniperb
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posted July 10, 2003 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Good morning, the duality of good and bad is not always clear to me in my physcial/mental tour of each day. My ego interfers, lower entities can masquarade as intutition,and so on.

I am a novice on my journey and I lay my complete faith in the divine. The uni-verse k-nows I am reaching for the highest good. To overcome my daily struggles, I reach out with my soul and seek.When I pray, meditate and seek the highest good; I ask that only the good of the uni-verse be sent to me. I ask for the guidence and protection of the angels, the Christ spirit, my guides and all that is holy. I trust in this protection. Discernment comes thru this protection and I am alerted if the entity isn`t of the uni-versal love. I have not yet re-membered how to hold this discernment in my un-awakened daily grind

I have many miles to walk yet and the path gets weary and lonely. Learning and growing from advanced souls is a treasure. Rather I accept their truths or not, depends on the 'truths' as I intute them on that particular stepping stone in my journey.

Would it be fair to say that 'truths' would depend on where one is at in their journey? Or what they are seeking rather than ab'soul'tes? Physical reality is perception and we all perceive differently. Spiritual reality is the souls and the creators own and is anyone wrong as long as they are finding their way back to the divine state?

I have so much to re-member and am grateful for each day to walk in the light.

Thanks for sharing A. and Meili. You give me much to think about
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Randall
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posted July 11, 2003 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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posted July 12, 2003 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunShyne     Edit/Delete Message

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