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Topic: Nostradamus
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Cat
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From: England
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posted September 12, 2002 06:08 PM
 
A very interesting man  Surrounded by a lot of controversy. What are your thoughts about him???
http://www.crystalinks.com/nostradamusbio.html Sue  IP: Logged |
raj_105_2001
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From: Chennai
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posted September 13, 2002 03:09 AM
So far I haven't read how much of his predictions came true though every now and then i used to hear "Nostradamus was right once again". If out of his every 20 predictions only 2 are coming true, then he is not to to be taken too seriously, however accurate his descriptions of future are.IP: Logged |
Cat
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posted September 14, 2002 05:07 PM
Hmmm
No one else got any thoughts on Nostradamus???He's said to be the most famous astrology of all time........ Supposedly predicted....... 1727 an "unscrupulous" agreement between Afghanistan and Turkey, the division of Iran resulted in loss of large tracts of land for Iran (Georgia and Armenia). The beginning of the fall of the British Empire in 1942. (In 1755 when Nostradamus made this prediction, Britain had not yet come into being....Only in 1603 England and Scotland formed Britannia) World Wars 1 and 11 and even hinted at the name Hitler as the originator of War 11. Pope Pius V1 would meet a tragic death in captivity near Rone River.....
"Centuries" (by Nostradamus) was banned in 1781 by Pope Pius V1 because it forecast his discomfort.....
The "offending" prophecy was nevertheless realised in 1799, when France under Napolean took over Papal dominions. Pope Pious V1 was taken prisoner. He died while being conveyed to a French jail. From tyrrant Tzar Kerensky a liberal statesman established a democratic Russian Republic which was overthrown by a disciplined coterie of determined communists led by Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin in November 1917, who Nostradamus described as three brothers.
According to the prophecy the Russian revolution was to run its course for 73 years. In other words Russia would no longer be communist from 1991. Perestrocia and Glasnost had set in. I also have been told that he predicted the Nick Leeson scandell. Hmmm so they are just a few that I know of. Sue PS: A lot of people also believe he predicted the 9/11 Twin Tower disaster. PPS: What makes this man so "high profile" and controversial after all these years. He was born in 1503, died in 1566 and he predicted his own death  IP: Logged |
Purpleflame
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posted September 15, 2002 03:59 PM
Hi Cat, I saw his birthchart on a site and it described it as rare and in the 'bundle' shape. What in his chart 'made' him so psychic? IP: Logged |
Cat
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posted September 15, 2002 04:36 PM
Hi Flame 
How are thing's with you? Great I hope Well, funnily enough I have just now printed off his birth chart, but not had time to look at it properly. He was "allegedly" born at 12 noon. But I doubt that being very accurate.
Which site did you see his birth chart on? I'm going to look at his chart, as he's a very interesting man. Still controversal now over 400 years after his death! First glance.....
Sun and Pluto in his 9th.....both in Sag. Sun in the 9th
Higher education and long journeys are where your heart is. There will tend to be a greater than normal interest in travel to far off places, and/or matters connected with "higher mind" (religion, philosophy, dealing with general principles rather than specific facts). Pluto in the 9th House:
Can’t stand religious hypocrisy. (His family were apparently forced to become Christians -they were Jewish - because of the Inquisition....but it's said they still upheld the Jewish religion/practises in private.)
Well nobody likes religious hypocrisy, but he probably couldn't stand it. Even as a child, this placement shows that he probably complained to his parents whenever someone said one thing and did another. This placement also shows that you can be revitalised by taking a course in some Plutonian subject, such as archeology, paleontology, psychology, biology, sociology, anthropology, anything dealing with death and rebirth, or bringing hidden secrets to light.
Well....we all know he did that! Now the Pluto stuff is interesting....as Pluto the planet wasn't even discovered until 1930 Sun in Sagittarius:
Sagittarius Sun-Signs tend to be very straightforward in speech but clumsy physically. This is why Sagittarius is supposed to be the sign of good luck. This placement inclines the person to travel the world and tell stories.
Well we know he was lucky (he escaped charges of heresy) and he travelled telling "stories"
Uranus in his 12th house is interesting....
It hides originality, eccentricity, and genius. These people learned early in life that this was the safe thing to do.
Well we know how his quatrains were "divised" to keep him safe! His Uranus was in Pisces....
The planet of genius in the sign of imagination. I'll take a proper look at it tomorrow.
Sue Hmmm....He has an Unaspected Sun. Oh and you mentioned "intuition/psychic" - he's got a stack of stuff in water. IP: Logged |
QueenofSheeba
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posted September 15, 2002 05:43 PM
I read a few hundred of his prophecies,and they are extremely vague.Some of them may fit something,but it depends on the translation and how much ambiguity you can fill in.The problem with prophecy is that you only see what was being predicted after the event  ------------------
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Purpleflame
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posted September 15, 2002 07:21 PM
Hi Cat, I saw the chart wheel and the "shapes" in your chartwheels on Moonvalleyastrology and in the Sixth Sense topic area.It is yet another interesting site. I find I have to go looking for the info when you ask where I saw it. Enjoy.  love Flame
I am fine. I notice that Pluto is still right on my Sun again but opposing Saturn is a little ways off now so he just left my Ascendant and feeling a little better. I am still trying to figure out the Leo although just Know it will work out and am continuing to learn Patience. You sound like you have been through 'a ton' as well. Thanks for all your time on this site.IP: Logged |
Cat
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posted September 16, 2002 06:32 AM
Hi QueenofSheba Yes, I agree with you. His prophecies are very much "open to interpretation" Apparently he was born into a family of “Christianised” Jews – his family having been forced into Catholicism by the Inquisition. In the 15th and 16th centuries, religious feeling against the Jews was very strong and hateful. Rumours that the Jews had poisoned the water supplies, and so causing the Black Death, were rampant and the Inquisition was in full swing in Europe. Louis XII decreed that all Jews must be baptised as Christians or be banished……
Anyway, it’s said that members of the Nostradamus’ family were baptised and accepted in St. Remy as model Christians by the time he was born. However in private, they continued to follow the Jewish faith, religion and cultural traditions. Now the reason I mention all of this is that it could very well explain why Nostradamus had to be so cautious when exercising his prophetic skills and publishing “The Centuries”, because let’s face it, this was an era without the constitutional guarantee of freedom of speech.
Sue
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Cat
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posted September 16, 2002 06:38 AM
Hi Flame
Thanks - I'll check out that site  So you're still playing with Pluto hey...me too  But at least he's moving forwards now - albeit VERY slowly. As he's been sittin at 0 degrees square my Sun for about 5 months now.......zzzzzzz and doesn't move off it to 1 degree until end November. What a slow coach that planet can be  Glad to hear you're feeling better 
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StarLover33
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From: King Arthur's Camelot
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posted September 22, 2002 12:18 PM
You guys I was reading a little bit of Nostradamus at one point and I noticed he predicted the date August 11, 1999 to be the coming of the antichrist...well you know that didn't happen or did it? I checked my astrology software and I realized that this could very well be true, it's his birthday!
I might be crazy to say this but go look for yourselves on all your softwares...August 11, 1999. Go Look I mean it, this could seriously be real. Please go check for yourselves!
Ps. Just look at the aspects as well the birth number!! Seriously! Look at the outer planets and the interaction between the personel planets!! This indicates a person who can be powerfully insane! Please go look!IP: Logged |
StarLover33
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posted September 22, 2002 12:29 PM
This person is tied by karma as well as his birth number 11...I'm so anxious for a reply! IP: Logged |
Cat
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posted September 22, 2002 01:38 PM
Hi Starlover...
Which astrology software did you check?
I  ...where am I supposed to be looking? Whose birthday?As part of my ongoing study of astrology, I've recently been reading a lot about Nostradamus. There's a lot of controversy surrounding him and also a lot of sceptisim but whatever anyone says about him - one thing is for sure - most people know of him and usually have something to say about him. He is certainly one of the most famous astrologers of all time
Sue PS: Let me know where I'm supposed to be looking - as I've also been reading some of his quatrains - which are kind of spooky
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StarLover33
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From: King Arthur's Camelot
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posted September 22, 2002 02:32 PM
Use your typical software and type in August 11, 1999 I'm sure the location or the time won't matter! Just look at the aspects between the planets. It's spooky!August 11, 1999 was the day of an eclipse that Nostradamus said would proceed the antichrist. I believe that this day is his birthday!! IP: Logged |
Cat
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posted September 22, 2002 02:48 PM
Hi Starlover Ok will do. But I'm still when you say "his birthday".
Whose birthday??? The antichrist?
Sue Here's a link.... http://www.clydelewis.com/dis/doomsday2/nost.html IP: Logged |
QueenofSheeba
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posted September 22, 2002 05:33 PM
Everyone assumes the antichrist is a guy,but Jesus was male,so wouldn't it be opposite if the antichrist is female?
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StarLover33
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From: King Arthur's Camelot
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posted September 22, 2002 06:15 PM
Yah Cat the antichrist's birthday.IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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From: Belfast, Ireland
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posted September 23, 2002 05:01 PM
Just thought I'd add something here.
I don't believe the anti-christ is just one person, quite the opposite infact, the anti- christ is what stops us from seeing ourselves as one and becoming One with Christ. The Christ principle is what makes us one and therefore, doesn't it make sense that the number of the beast 666 relates to human beings who have not yet learned to overcome death and so have not become one yet with life.
666 when added is the number 18
and Linda talked about Jesus being influenced by 18... and 3,6 and 9.
It represents the moon in tarot and also Linda says is symbolic of the scene of the crucifixtion... yep the last of the beasts to overcome and Jesus did.
I don't know my point here except to say that I don't think there is such a person who could sum up all evil except any one person who is capable of it just as any one person is capable of love and Jesus being the first.
Felt I had to wind that out .
Love Cat from Belfast.
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BugginOut6106
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posted March 21, 2003 07:14 PM
One book claimed that the 3rd antichrist's name is MABUS has anyone heard that as well?
I dunno what quatrain it is or anything but anyway, has ne1 read that too?>IP: Logged |
morgana
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posted March 22, 2003 11:25 AM
Wasn't Nostradamus a Scorp (they used a different callendar in the Middle Ages and the difference is about a month or so, but I'm not sure in which direction)? He certainly wasn't a Sagittarius.
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morgana
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posted March 22, 2003 01:45 PM
http://www.norbyhus.dk/calendar.html An excerpt from the text:
"To avoid this increasing difference between date and Equinox Pope Gregorius XIII (with the help of the astronomer Christopher Clavius (1537-1612)) in 1582 declared that the day after 4 October 1582 should be 15 October 1582 and then Equinox again would fall on 21 March. Furthermore the rule for leap years (which said that years divisible with 4 should be leap years) was changed so that years, at the end of the century, should be leap years only if they were divisible with 400 (e.g. 1600, 2000, 2400 etc.). Finally, he declared that this new calendar changed the first day of the year to 1 January which - as mentioned above - has been practised since 153 BC.
In the Gregorian Calendar there is then 303 years with 365 days and 97 years with 366 days, which gives a mean year of 365.24250 days: 365 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes and 12 seconds. Related to the mean interval between vernal equinoxes this corresponds to a slippage of less than one hour in every 300 years for the foreseeable future - until circa 4000 AD (w2).
To convert from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar, add 10 days to dates from 5 October 1582 JU through 28 February 1700 JU; after that add 11 days through 28 February 1800 JU; 12 days through 28 February 1900 JU; 13 days through 28 February 2100 JU (Not 2000 JU because of the Gregorian leap year in 2000) to get the corresponding Gregorian dates." Here are the ephemeris for Dec. 1503. According to this, Nostradamus was a Cappy
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/1500/ae_1503.pdf
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